Don't throw away your vote - Ron Paul

[afwjam]

www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/dont-throw-away-your-vote

 

[Voluntarist]

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[afwjam]

The real problem is that, at some point, votes came off the gold standard, no longer backed by gold candidates, and have simply been fiat votes ever since.

I agree but we all like to vote so hard, and that's what we are talking about in this section of the forum.

 

[openfire]

Frank Luntz happy as a pig in sheet, nodding in approval @ 3:55: "There you go"

 

[jmdrake]

Ron Paul @ 2:40 "I think Donald Trump is off base when he says it's rigged. There's a lot of rigging going on but I don't think he understands how it works."

 

[jmdrake]

Frank Luntz happy as a pig in sheet, nodding in approval @ 3:55: "There you go"

Principles matter. I could care less if standing for principle makes Frank Luntz happy or not.

 

[jmdrake]

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I can't stand how that one jackass, Michael Block, tried to tie being pro-abortion to libertarianism. Libertarians are divided on that issue and rightfully so. "I think an act of aggression is killing a live fetus." Kick some ass Ron Paul! And on "gay rights", the libertarian position is that gays don't have the right to force someone else to bake them a wedding cake. Nobody has that right. Government should be out of the marriage business period.

 

[Meritocrat]

Is voting Libertarian the best way to secure the right to bear arms?

 

[jmdrake]

Is voting Libertarian the best way to secure the right to bear arms?

Buying guns and learning how to hide them well is the best way to secure the right to bear arms. Getting involved with your local gun rights group is also a good way to secure the right to keep and bear arms. And the NRA needs to get back to its roots. When it originated it was a group that went to the south post civil war to teach freed blacks how to effectively use guns for self defense. The NRA should go to the inner city, teach responsible gun ownership, and recruit new members.

 

[Ronin Truth]

OK Ron, I'll just keep it safe, right here in my pocket.

 

[georgiaboy]

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I can't stand how that one jackass, Michael Block, tried to tie being pro-abortion to libertarianism. Libertarians are divided on that issue and rightfully so. "I think an act of aggression is killing a live fetus." Kick some ass Ron Paul! And on "gay rights", the libertarian position is that gays don't have the right to force someone else to bake them a wedding cake. Nobody has that right. Government should be out of the marriage business period.

Good point, I noticed that too, along with his selective broad brush. He forgot to add smoking meth in public to his list, fwiw.

Gotta keep folks afraid of the libertarians -- it's short for "libertine" after all. /s

Full disclosure - that was my thinking until Ron Paul. Now to me it means "small government", with a foundation of fiscal conservatism, something the GOP seems to have conveniently forgotten about.

 

[CaptUSA]

I just love Ron Paul. It's so nice to have a guy with a loud enough voice who completely and totally gets it.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Is voting Libertarian the best way to secure the right to bear arms?

Better than voting for Trump.

 

[afwjam]

Is voting Libertarian the best way to secure the right to bear arms?

I don't know about Johnson but McAfee and Peterson seem to "get it"

 

[openfire]

Principles matter. I could care less if standing for principle makes Frank Luntz happy or not.

LOL You think "principles" is why Frank Luntz was smiling like the Cheshire cat? Let me enlighten you: Frank Luntz was happy at the prospect of Ron Paul supporters throwing their vote to a 3rd party, ie AWAY from Trump in the general. He wants Hillary Clinton to win because Frank Luntz is a ZIONIST who knows what Hillary's foreign policy is, and which country in the middle east America's blood and treasure will benefit under neocon Hillary Clinton.

Pfft, principles.

 

[CaptUSA]

LOL You think "principles" is why Frank Luntz was smiling like the Cheshire cat? Let me enlighten you: Frank Luntz was happy at the prospect of Ron Paul supporters throwing their vote to a 3rd party, ie AWAY from Trump in the general. He wants Hillary Clinton to win because Frank Luntz is a ZIONIST who knows what Hillary's foreign policy is, and which country in the middle east America's blood and treasure will benefit under neocon Hillary Clinton.

Pfft, principles.

Pfft. True Ron Paul supporters would NEVER support Trump. The idea that Trump somehow owns our votes, or that he'd get them if we there weren't some third party is just ludicrous. Trump, like anyone else, would have to EARN our votes. And with his authoritarian outlook, that is extremely unlikely to happen.

Sorry, Gretchen. Quit trying to make Trump happen.

 

[openfire]

It's not about supporting Trump, it's about destroying a corrupt system.

 

[CaptUSA]

It's not about supporting Trump, it's about destroying a corrupt system.

Yeah, we've been over and over this. Trump is just as much part of that system as Hillary Clinton is.

You can continue to believe your own wishful thinking or you can try to understand exactly what Ron Paul has been talking about. (I suspect your fantasies are too entrenched for you to do the later. But hey, you've been conned by an expert.)

 

[Petar]

Yeah, we've been over and over this. Trump is just as much part of that system as Hillary Clinton is.

You can continue to believe your own wishful thinking or you can try to understand exactly what Ron Paul has been talking about. (I suspect your fantasies are too entrenched for you to do the later. But hey, you've been conned by an expert.)

Hillary Clinton is much more controlled than Trump is.

I guess that Ron Paul does not get it either.

 

[CaptUSA]

Hillary Clinton is much more controlled than Trump is.

I guess that Ron Paul does not get it either.

Um... This is exactly the "either/or" proposition he was discussing. Ron Paul most definitely "gets it".