Don't let the "realists" bring you down.

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Looks like both Ron Paul and Rand Paul are now "realists/pessimists/defeatists" about Ron Pauls chances at the Republican nomination. Ban them from the forums!

http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2008/03/the-ron-paul-ca.html

the title is "The Ron Paul Campaign: The Glass is Half Full" and not "The Glass is empty".

Tell you what, even when the GOP platform evolved into completely liberal, Ron Paul will be the last man standing preaching the libertarian message. Don't attached your unwholesome label of "realists/pessimists/defeatists" with RP.

 

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Cynicism has become a supreme sign of intelligence. Compulsive skepticism masquerades as perceptiveness. Mean-spirited irony is chic.

how true.

and they reveal their hunger of wanting to be percieved as intelligent, perceptive and chic by their constant haressing and eagerness of having the last word.

 

[phuqig_hotband]

how true.

and they reveal their hunger of wanting to be percieved as intelligent, perceptive and chic by their constant haressing and eagerness of having the last word.

Or maybe the "defeatists/realists/pessimists" only want to defend themselves against unjust and vulgar accusations. I have noticed a pattern to this whole "realist" verses "positivist" debate. The "realists" spend most of their time defending their own positions and the "positivists" spend most of their time flaming, labeling and driving away. Inclusive versus exclusive.

Also, you are confusing your perception (likely false) of their intentions with...well...their intentions. Absolute generalizations are rarely accurate. Did you not see the hypocrisy in your comment before you wrote it? You accuse others of believing they are intelligent, perceptive and chic and proceed to use the cool guy symbol in your comment.

 

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Or maybe the "defeatists/realists/pessimists" only want to defend themselves against unjust and vulgar accusations. I have noticed a pattern to this whole "realist" verses "positivist" debate. The "realists" spend most of their time defending their own positions and the "positivists" spend most of their time flaming, labeling and driving away. Inclusive versus exclusive.

Also, you are confusing your perception (likely false) of their intentions with...well...their intentions. Absolute generalizations are rarely accurate.

cut the crap. don't act like you are the victim when you are obviously not.

Read the opening post again. Then read the first few replies to the OP. The smell of cynicism is so disgusting.

 

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BTW, you register a new nick just to take part in this debate?

 

[phuqig_hotband]

cut the crap. don't act like you are the victim when you are obviously not.

Read the opening post again. Then read the first few replies to the OP. The smell of cynicism is so disgusting.

This entire thread is filled with people that want nothing more than to not be called troll. The title of the thread and the content of the OP was intentionally reactionary and argumentitive.

 

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This entire thread is filled with people that want nothing more than to not be called troll. The title of the thread and the content of the OP was intentionally reactionary and argumentitive.

READ the opening post again. There was no mention of troll. It was a plead to supporters to keep their spirit up against negativity and that there is still a chance that RP might win the convention through delegate over-ruling the GOP.

then the 'realists' can't wait to rush in and inject their cynicism. Try justify that.

 

[phuqig_hotband]

READ the opening post again. There was no mention of troll. It was a plead to supporters to keep their spirit up against negativity and that there is still a chance that RP might win the convention through delegate over-ruling the GOP.

then the 'realists' can't wait to rush in and inject their cynicism. Try justify that.

"Don't let the "realists" bring you down."

"They obviously don't understand the circumstances of the delegate and the process at all."

"Sigh... I make a topic telling people to not be let down by them, and two just come here and continue to troll.
Go away."

Multiple comments were made that were implicational in nature. One should not start a thread like this if they don’t want others to defend their position.

This topic is in grassroots central. If it is not directed at every member, it should not be posted there.

I am not sure why people think comments that pretty much paraphrase what Ron and Rand Paul say directly to their supporters can be considered trolling or negative.

Quit being so sensitive. Politics isn’t pretty. How do you expect to handle others outside our movement if you can’t even handle people that mostly agree with you?

A sign of a healthy forum is open thoughtful debate. Ask the choir if anything productive ever came out of the mouth of the preacher.

 

[amy31416]

I'm not alone? There are actual people out there that have a rational thought in their head? OMG a tear just came to my eye.

There is a balance here. Realists CAN be overly cautious too.

RON PAUL is so much of a realist, in fact, that it may have affected his campaign. Based on many of the answers that Jonathan Bydlak has given, Ron Paul NOT running a campaign FULL TIME probably had the largest impact of all.

Nope, you aren't alone. I agree with everything you say, us realists can be too cautious and I think it did affect his campaign negatively. And we need to move on and get to the next step, while learning from our mistakes.

 

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Cynicism is not realism. Hope is not folly.

 

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Absolute generalizations are rarely accurate.