Don't let the "realists" bring you down.

Zera

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First of all, I'll admit that the chances of getting the nomination at the convention aren't too high. But, with what's been seen, it's certainly possible.

The "realists" often make claims that Paul will not get the nomination at all. I understand that they want to be realistic and all, but saying things like "will not", which mean a definite no, are not encouraging and very negative. They obviously don't understand the circumstances of the delegate and the process at all. Or if they do, they aren't seeing the progress we're making, at all.

You've seen several success stories on this board. And they always report there were other Paul supporters there... So obviously, just the people who come here aren't the only ones who are doing this. There may be many Paul delegates all over the nation that just aren't coming to this board to tell us how it's going. I've heard that there are many meetings in major cities for the delegates where they meet up and plan things. This can all lead to Paul delegates at the state convention, which would then pass a resolution to release McCain's delegates. Once that is done, the national delegates could be chosen, and if there is a majority of Paul delegates there, guess which delegates will be chosen to be national ones?

And it IS happening. Over the past few days, some people here have posted links to GOP leaders trying to tell local GOP leaders to be wary and careful of Paul supporters, and some are trying to make it seem we're misinforming people (I believe it was Minnesota where the GOP people were saying so, though they aren't aware of the resolutions that could be passed at the state convention). It's all very apparent they are scared of us, and that a revolution delegate-wise is happening. They wouldn't even mention it, otherwise.

Just remember, stay away from the MSM. They aren't going to report about the convention and what could happen. They're only going to announce the nominee they think will be chosen based on delegate numbers that they make up often.

And as I mentioned, don't let the realists bring you down. Their intentions may not be to really do so, but hearing negative things in times like this where we can have success is never good. Continue to do what you can to become delegates, and good things CAN happen.
 
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Some have Faith, Some don't.
 
The "reality theorists" are hurting the campaign. I suggest we put all the "reality theorists" in their own subforum that can't be seen by non-members.
 
Sigh... I make a topic telling people to not be let down by them, and two just come here and continue to troll.

Go away.
 
Sigh... I make a topic telling people to not be let down by them, and two just come here and continue to troll.

Go away.

"Go away".......it sounds like you agree with the suggestion I made above.
 
Yeah, down with realism!!! Let's live in The Land of Make-Believe!!!!!

QFT

Darn people want to keep holding on to the million-to-one odds and dump money into the slot machine hoping it will pay off, when there are REAL tangible things they can be doing to help the MOVEMENT.

Amazing how many so called "supporters" fail to listen to the man they claim to be supporting.
 
Hey look at my signature! :)

Look how RP started the campaign. He was not convinced he could get anywhere near as far as he did! He did it anyway. We are all so 'resutls focused'. Good, real change takes time. I know we are running out of that commodity, but difficult situations lead to new oppportunities.
 
"Go away".......it sounds like you agree with the suggestion I made above.

Your post hadn't been submitted yet when I posted. And, I'm not quite understanding, since you sounded like a jack ass in your first post in this topic, and then you suggest for posts like yours to be put somewhere else? Can't even tell what you're trying to do.

Again, may anyone who wants to post in a similar fashion just not do so? Your comments are very annoying, unnecessary, and negative.
 
Your post hadn't been submitted yet when I posted. And, I'm not quite understanding, since you sounded like a jack ass in your first post in this topic, and then you suggest for posts like yours to be put somewhere else? Can't even tell what you're trying to do.

Again, may anyone who wants to post in a similar fashion just not do so? Your comments are very annoying, unnecessary, and negative.


I'll start putting in the sarcasm emoticon, so you can keep up.
 
I have always lived under the "all things are possible" meme. This attitude has helped me in many endeavors, (such as pedeling a $250 wal-mart bicycle 3700miles across the country with no training, when I had never even owned a roadbike before, and never ridden more than a few miles at a stretch, as a kid...)

My biggest beefs with the "realists" is;

for one, they are not "realists" as no-one can foresee the future. Life has a funny way of treating fortune tellers...

for two, the disrespect they show towards those who are still working primary states. It is one thing to realistically admit we have a slim chance of overcoming all the obstacles being thrown at us. Quite another to declare defeat and discourage others who may not be able to see through the BS...

Work Hard - Make Friends - Make History

Dare to Win
 
...?!?

WHAT THE FUCK!


Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot, and I'm obviously not making any points with you by using sarcasm, so let's just say we agree that we have a fundamental disagreement.

You believe it is best to remain optimistic, and work hard for the win regardless of how unrealistic the possibility for a win might be. I admire your optimism and willingness to continue trying.

I, on the other hand, believe that we hurt ourselves by continuing to lead others to believe that we're going to win this thing through some stealth delegate strategy or by the planets suddenly aligning in our favor. When people realize that we're full of shit, they give up on the whole process and disappear. That is why I believe ronpaulforums.com continues to lose members.

If people were told the truth that Ron Paul is not going to win this election but that there are plenty of other things we can do and plenty of things worth continuing to fight for, this place would still be buzzing with activity....imho.
 
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Some have Faith, Some don't.

Everyone's aware of the ugly facts.
Me personally...I've been down and I've been ridiculed as to Paul's success, but I am not going to stop promoting Paul and his ideals until after the convention and after November voting day. When he decides to stop the run for President...then I will. I'll guarantee you that he has goals other than the nomination. And I won't ever stop promoting his ideals.

It's about the message and....

"Faith" is healthy. Go rEVOLution
 
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Some have Faith, Some don't.

Brilliant thank you for those hallowed words from the Good Book!

Jesus for Ron Paul!!!:p
 
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