Don't get too whipped up over Ron Paul

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If you dont do as much as you possibly can and more then you are infact neglecting your family, friends and yourself in the long run. An official Police State is only around the corner...

A peaceful revolution is one the whole family can partake in and enjoy :)
 
Dave - I don't enter fights. I do my very best never to use force against another person.

If someone were to attack me, then I would defend myself by blocking their punches and possibly disabling them from attacking. I wouldn't beat the hell out of them and light them on fire (reference to Hiroshima in the other thread).

Metaphor... look it up.

And in case you haven't noticed, government regulation and abuse of power IS beating the crap out of us. So we're trying to defend ourselves by "blocking their punches" and "disabling them from attacking".

If, after many decades and repeated attempts, that method doesn't work... THEN we "beat the hell out of them and light them on fire". Now THAT was not a metaphor. It's the 2nd amendment's real purpose.
 
I can think of no greater legacy that I can leave to my two teenage sons, one 15 and the other 17, than to see their mother fighting like hell to save their country America. I would not for a second want to discourage anyone from giving their all because "Ron Paul is unlikely to win." What complete and utter bullshit!

"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men."
- Samuel Adams
 
I don't agree with the intitial post. Not one bit. Six months out of our lives to potentially save our country from sure destruction, is not much at all to give.

If we step back now, imagine our remorse for not having done more, if martial law is declared in a year or two, or our dollar completely collapses.

Might we fail? Yes. But, I for one want to be confident that I did everything in my power to WIN. We still have the possibility of winning, you know, if we ALL put our hearts, souls, money, wisdom and backs into this thing. We know Ron Paul is right. A lot of other people will think he's right too, if we will get HIS message to them.

We CAN win this thing!
 
The reason I'm so passionate is because I do have kids....

It's their future we are fighting for. I feel that I wouldn't be being a good example to my 10 and 14 year old if we didn't choose to show them how important this is to our country. My kids have gone to every single meet-up meeting, block walk, or sign holding activity we have done. Today, we spent the day making our own Ron Paul shirts to wear to the fireworks show tonight with iron on transfer t-shirt kits from Office Depot. My kids actually think its fun to knock on doors. Yes, they get tired of going to meetings at times, but you know....a little sacrifice is good for kids at times, especially when its for something as important as this. That's exactly what I tell them and they are learning in the process. They are the future fighters for liberty.

Lisa in Texas
 
I can think of no greater legacy that I can leave to my two teenage sons, one 15 and the other 17, than to see their mother fighting like hell to save their country America. I would not for a second want to discourage anyone from giving their all because "Ron Paul is unlikely to win." What complete and utter bullshit!

I can think of no greater legacy that I can leave to my two teenage sons, one 15 and the other 17, than to see their mother fighting like hell to save their country America. I would not for a second want to discourage anyone from giving their all because "Ron Paul is unlikely to win." What complete and utter bullshit!

glts... one fine American.
 
I took my family to a sign making party on Monday - that is our family night. They all loved it I have two sons, 10 and 13, who are very aware and excited to be helping Ron Paul. They didn't just go 'cuz DAD said and my wife went also. A GREAT way to spend time with your family.

Also, at the sign making party, our meetup leader told a story that I think the OP needs to hear.

At Valley Forge, you probably know about the cold, the lack of food, and the odds they were facing. What many people are not aware of is many of those soldiers were getting letters from their wives BEGGING them to come home and take care of their families. I had to admit, if that had been the case with me I would have been GONE. Thank God for two things: IF we were in that situation, I believe my wife would know there was nothing more important that I could do to take care of my family than be there. Second, thank God that there were better men than me at Valley Forge.

Was it Churchil who said something to the effect of "If we don't fight now when by a little effort we could save liberty, then we may end up fighting when there is little chance of victory, or worse when there is no chance of victory but we would rather fight and die than live as slaves". I am sure that isn't exactly right, and not sure if it was Churchil, and I don't feel like Googling it;)
 
You reap what you sow. Give it a half-arsed effort and you get a half-arsed result. I don't know about you, but I want a whole-arsed result.

Of course you do have to maintain your family, etc... But that doesnt mean you can't do all you can after your personal responsibilities.


Well said.

I usually try to read all the posts on a thread before posting, so I won't repeat what has already been said. But I don't have time now, so excuse me if that happens.

We all have the opportunity to be part of something great. And that is still true whether Ron Paul wins or not. I know if I don't put a lot into it, and he doesn't win, I will always regret that. I will always wonder what difference it would make if I had done more.

And I agree, we shouldn't neglect our families. But the future will affect our families, so we should try to influence its course. I don't think we will ever regret our efforts.

And even if Ron Paul continues to gain momentum, but doesn't win, our country may not be the same as it was before. He is stirring the pot, so to speak; and by being a part of it, we are also stirring the pot. Once we have been influenced by that same kind of spirit as the founding fathers were, we may never be the same again.

Oh, and, who know what bit of effort might push it to victory. Yes, it requires the voice of the people, but we don't know how things will be in 6 months. The game may be a close one. It may even go into overtime. But however it turns out, we will be glad we gave it that last bit of effort.
 
Should everyone spend too much time and energy on getting him elected? No.

My family would support me spending every waking moment and dime of my money for this cause. It's the same cause that our fathers sacrificed their lives and personal fortune to, so I don't think it's too much to ask for us to give the cause the next 6 or 7 months of our lives. I believe very much that this is the time and cause to which we should be committed and as before it's not the time for sunshine patriots. If I had 5 years left, I would very much use it defending liberty. It's a false choice to say that you can't fight for liberty and enjoy family as your engaged in the fight. My wife and four children are engaged and happy to be part of it.

Anyhow, I think your advice is crap and good thing our fathers didn't listen to the naysayers. If Ron doesn't win, the fight will not be over for me until every last tyrant is removed from office.
 
i see what your getting at but your completely wrong
wake up and smell the tyranny...in america that is

this country is heading in a very scary direction...my boyfriend and I have been VERY passionate about the RP campaign and have dedicated a lot of time into it...will I look back if he doesnt win and be upset that i wasted time? NO FREIKIN WAY!!!
i will look back and feel good that i helped spread a message of freedom and liberty to a lot of people...everytime i get done handing out flyers or talking to people about RP i feel really good, which is more than i can say about my job or watching TV

i spend about an hour or so a day on this forum and looking up other stuff on the internet...but a great deal of information has come out of this forum, people alert you when something big is going on, or a radio interview is coming on -- I then go alert others that aren't on the board of this as well.

I have a 5 year old, SHE LOVES helping with RP stuff, SHE LOVES painting signs, SHE LOVES talking about how Ron Paul is going to save america to every one

getting our families involved is a great way to spend MORE time with them than if we were just watching a movie or playing XBOX together (which is what we did all the time before RP came into our lives)

FEEL PROUD about what you are doing for Ron Paul!!!! If he doesnt win we can at least look back and say we made a difference...we helped start a revolution!
 
Do I think Ron Paul is by far the best candidate for President in 2008? Yes.

Should everyone spend too much time and energy on getting him elected? No.

You must not forget that your first obligation is to yourself and then to your family. I would love for Ron Paul to win, yet if he doesn't I'll have to live my life as well. Just think if you found out that you had 5 years left to live? How would you look back at all this time being spent on Ron Paul getting elected? Would you have better spent it with your family?

I am not saying don't help out - but do so in moderation.
Looking at it objectively - Ron Paul is unlikely to win. The primary reason has nothing to do with the media - it is the people. Socialism is to blame. Too many on the dole in some way, and too few fitting the bill.

Everyone needs to read "How I found freedom in an unfree World" by Harry Browne


There is no time to be moderate. There is only time for winning. If we're going to make 2008 the year the people saved America, we cant do it sitting on our asses.. You sound like a Giuliani spy.
 
This thread sucks. I pledge my life, my fortune, and my sacred honor to getting Ron Paul elected. Just think if the founding fathers had this kind of defeatism. My family will be best served by living in a free country.
 
Our Lives, Our Fortunes, Our Sacred Honor

Well said.

We all have the opportunity to be part of something great. And that is still true whether Ron Paul wins or not. I know if I don't put a lot into it, and he doesn't win, I will always regret that. I will always wonder what difference it would make if I had done more.

And even if Ron Paul continues to gain momentum, but doesn't win, our country may not be the same as it was before. He is stirring the pot, so to speak; and by being a part of it, we are also stirring the pot. Once we have been influenced by that same kind of spirit as the founding fathers were, we may never be the same again.

Oh, and, who know what bit of effort might push it to victory. Yes, it requires the voice of the people, but we don't know how things will be in 6 months. The game may be a close one. It may even go into overtime. But however it turns out, we will be glad we gave it that last bit of effort.

Well said. Here is an article about our Founding Fathers and the sacrifices they made for this nation. It was written by Rush Limbaugh's father. I believe that if you know what our Founding Fathers went through to establish this Great Republic, we can do no less to keep it.

The Liberty Tree was a famous elm tree that stood in the commons of Boston, Massachusetts Colony, in the days before the American Revolution. The tree was a rallying point for the growing resistance to the rule of England over the American colonies. In the years that followed, almost every American town had its own Liberty Tree—a living symbol of popular support for individual liberty and resistance to tyranny. The internet is the new Liberty Tree where we are all bound together in this great endeavor. In the 18th century it took many years to get "13 clocks to strike as one". In the 21st century information is transferred almost instantaneously and you can read and research in the privacy of your own home.

Today we have the capability of reaching many people quicker with our message. We will be seeing people from all over America calling on voters in Iowa and New Hampshire. National said that the goal was 10000 votes for Ron Paul in Iowa. I say let's send them a message they can't ignore. According to the latest figures, we have almost 40,000 my space friends, 22,000 eventful people, almost 18,000 meetup people. All we need to do is to each adopt a voter in Iowa. Instead of calling a long list of voters to pitch Ron Paul, why don't we all concentrate on one or two voters and become their friend? Swap email addresses, send them a birthday greeting, (You can usually find their birthday on the voter files.) In short, make them part of our on line community, give them a sense of greater purpose and enlist their help to contact more people in their neighborhoods.

Make no doubt about it. This is a very winnable race. Most politics are wholesale, where you rely on paid media to get your message out. This is a retail campaign where you contact the voters directly. Retail politics will always win out over wholesale politics if you contact the same number of voters. Most campaigns can't do this because they do not have enough volunteers, so they settle on paid media. We don't have to settle. On election day we need to have 100 million clocks striking as one. So, Let's do it!


"Our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor"

by Rush H. Limbaugh, Jr.

It was a glorious morning. The sun was shining and the wind was from the southeast. Up especially early, a tall bony, redheaded young Virginian found time to buy a new thermometer, for which he paid three pounds, fifteen shillings. He also bought gloves for Martha, his wife, who has ill at home.

Thomas Jefferson arrived early at the statehouse. The temperature was 72.5 degrees and the horseflies weren't nearly so bad at that hour. It was a lovely room, very large, with gleaming white walls. The chairs were comfortable. Facing the single door were two brass fireplaces, but they would not be used today.

The moment the door was shut, and it was always kept locked, the room became an oven. The tall windows were shut, so that loud quarreling voices could not be heard by passersby. Small openings atop the windows allowed a slight stir of air, and also a large number of horseflies. Jefferson records that "the horseflies were dexterous in finding necks, and the silk of stocking was nothing to them." All discussion was punctuated by the slap of hands on necks.

On the wall at the back, facing the President's desk, was a panoply-consisting of a drum, swords, and banners seized from Fort Ticonderoga the previous year.

Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold had captured the place, shouting that they were taking it "in the name of the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress!"

Now Congress got to work, promptly taking up an emergency measure about which there was discussion but no dissention. "Resolved: That an application be made to the Committee of Safety of Pennsylvania for a supply of flints for the troops at New York."

Then Congress transformed itself into a committee of the whole. The Declaration of Independence was read aloud once more, and debate resumed. Though Jefferson was the best writer of all of them, he had been somewhat verbose. Congress hacked the excess away.

They did a good job, as a side-by-side comparison of the rough draft and the final text shows. They cut the phrase "by a self-assumed power." "Climb" was replaced by "must read," then "must" was eliminated, then the whole sentence, and soon the whole paragraph was cut.

Jefferson groaned as they continued what he later called "their depredations." "Inherent and inalienable rights" came out "certain unalienable rights," and to this day no one knows who suggested the elegant change.

A total of 86 alterations were made. Almost 500 words were eliminated, leaving 1,337. At last, after three days of wrangling, the document was put to a vote.

Here in this hall Patrick Henry had once thundered: " I am no longer a Virginian, Sir, but an American." But today the loud, sometimes bitter argument stilled, and without fanfare the vote was taken from north to south by colonies, as was the custom. On July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was adopted.

There were no trumpets blown. No one stood on his chair and cheered. The afternoon was waning and Congress had no thought of delaying the full calendar of routine business on its hands. For several hours they worked on many other problems before adjourning for the day.

Much To Lose

What kind of men were the 56 signers who adopted the Declaration of Independence and who, by their signing, committed an act of treason against the crown? To each of you the names Franklin, Adams, Hancock, and Jefferson are almost as familiar as household words.

Most of us, however, know nothing of the other signers.

Who were they? What happened to them?

I imagine that many of you are somewhat surprised at the names not there: George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry. All were elsewhere.

Ben Franklin was the only really old man. Eighteen were under 40; three were in their 20s. Of the 56 almost half -24- were judges and lawyers. Eleven were merchants, 9 were landowners and farmers, and the remaining 12 were doctors, ministers, and politicians.

With only a few exceptions, such as Samuel Adams of Massachusetts, these were men of substantial property.

All but two had families. The vast majority were men of education and standing in their communities. They had economic security as few men had in the 18th century.

Each had more to lose from revolution than he had to gain by it. John Hancock, one of the richest men in America, already had a price of 500 pounds on his head.

He signed in enormous letters so "that his Majesty could now read his name without glasses and could now double the reward." Ben Franklin wryly noted: "Indeed we must all hang together, otherwise we shall most assuredly hang separately." Fat Benjamin Harrison of Virginia told tiny Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts: "With me it will all be over in a minute, but you , you will be dancing on air an hour after I am gone.

These men knew what they risked. The penalty for treason was death by hanging. And remember: a great British fleet was already at anchor in New York Harbor.

They were sober men. There were no dreamy-eyed intellectuals or draft card burners here. They were far from hot-eyed fanatics, yammering for an explosion.

They simply asked for the status quo. It was change they resisted. It was equality with the mother country they desired. It was taxation with representation they sought. They were all conservatives, yet they rebelled.

It was principle, not property, that had brought these men to Philadelphia. Two of them became presidents of the United States. Seven of them became state governors. One died in office as vice president of the United States. Several would go on to be U.S. Senators.

One, the richest man in America, in 1828 founded the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. One, a delegate from Philadelphia, was the only real poet, musician and philosopher of the signers (it was he, Francis Hopkinson - not Betsy Ross who designed the United States flag).

Richard Henry Lee, A delegate from Virginia, had introduced the resolution to adopt the Declaration of Independence in June of 1776. He was prophetic in his concluding remarks:

"Why then sir, why do we longer delay? Why still deliberate? Let this happy day give birth to an American Republic. Let her arise not to devastate and to conquer but to reestablish the reign of peace and law. The eyes of Europe are fixed upon us. She demands of us a living example of freedom that may exhibit a contrast in the felicity of the citizen to the ever increasing tyranny which desolates her polluted shores. She invites us to prepare an asylum where the unhappy may find solace, and the persecuted repost. If we are not this day wanting in our duty, the names of the American Legislatures of 1776 will be placed by posterity at the side of all of those whose memory has been and ever will be dear to virtuous men and good citizens."
Though the resolution was formally adopted July 4, it was not until July 8 that two of the states authorized their delegates to sign, and it was not until August 2, that the signers met at Philadelphia to actually put their names to the Declaration.
William Ellery, delegate from Rhode Island, was curious to see the signers' faces as they committed this supreme act of personal courage. He saw some men sign quickly, "but in no face was he able to discern real fear."

Stephan Hopkins, Ellery's colleague from Rhode Island, was a man past 60. As he signed with a shaking pen, he declared: "My hand trembles, but my heart does not."

"Most glorious service"

Even before the list was published, the British marked down every member of Congress suspected of having put his name to treason. All of them became the objects of vicious manhunts. Some were taken. Some, like Jefferson, had narrow escapes. All who had property or families near British strongholds suffered.

- Francis Lewis, New York delegate saw his home plundered and his estates in what is now Harlem, completely destroyed by British soldiers. Mrs. Lewis was captured and treated with great brutality. Though she was later exchanged for two British prisoners though the efforts of Congress she died from the effects of her abuse.

- William Floyd, another New York delegate, was able to escape with his wife and children across Long Island Sound to Connecticut, where they lived as refugees without income for seven years. When they came home they found a devastated ruin.

- Philips Livingstone had all his great holdings in New York confiscated and his family driven out of their home. Livingstone died in 1778 still working in Congress for the cause.

- Louis Morris, the fourth New York delegate, saw all his timber, crops, and livestock taken. For seven years he was barred from his home and family.

- John Hart of Trenton, New Jersey, risked his life to return home to see his dying wife. Hessian soldiers rode after him, and he escaped in the woods. While his wife lay on her deathbed, the soldiers ruined his farm and wrecked his homestead. Hart, 65, slept in caves and woods as he was hunted across the countryside. When at long last, emaciated by hardship, he was able to sneak home, he found his wife had already been buried, and his 13 children taken away. He never saw them again. He died a broken man in 1779, without ever finding his family.

- Dr. John Witherspoon, signer, was president of the College of New Jersey, later called Princeton. The British occupied the town of Princeton, and billeted troops in the college. They trampled and burned the finest college library in the country.

- Judge Richard Stockton, another New Jersey delegate signer, had rushed back to his estate in an effort to evacuate his wife and children. The family found refuge with friends, but a Tory sympathizer betrayed them. Judge Stockton was pulled from bed in the night and brutally beaten by the arresting soldiers. Thrown into a common jail, he was deliberately starved. Congress finally arranged for Stockton's parole, but his health was ruined. The judge was released as an invalid, when he could no longer harm the British cause. He returned home to find his estate looted and did not live to see the triumph of the revolution. His family was forced to live off charity.

- Robert Morris, merchant prince of Philadelphia, delegate and signer, met Washington's appeals and pleas for money year after year. He made and raised arms and provisions which made it possible for Washington to cross the Delaware at Trenton. In the process he lost 150 ships at sea, bleeding his own fortune and credit almost dry.

- George Clymer, Pennsylvania signer, escaped with his family from their home, but their property was completely destroyed by the British in the Germantown and Brandywine campaigns.

- Dr. Benjamin Rush, also from Pennsylvania, was forced to flee to Maryland. As a heroic surgeon with the army, Rush had several narrow escapes.

- John Martin, a Tory in his views previous to the debate, lived in a strongly loyalist area of Pennsylvania. When he came out for independence, most of his neighbors and even some of his relatives ostracized him. He was a sensitive and troubled man, and many believed this action killed him. When he died in 1777, his last words to his tormentors were: "Tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall acknowledge it [the signing] to have been the most glorious service that I have ever rendered to my country."

- William Ellery, Rhode Island delegate, saw his property and home burned to the ground.

- Thomas Lynch, Jr., South Carolina delegate, had his health broken from privation and exposures while serving as a company commander in the military. His doctors ordered him to seek a cure in the West Indies and on the voyage he and his young bride were drowned at sea.

- Edward Rutledge, Arthur Middleton, and Thomas Heyward, Jr., the other three South Carolina signers, were taken by the British in the siege of Charleston. They were carried as prisoners of war to St. Augustine, Florida, where they were singled out for indignities. They were exchanged at the end of the war, the British in the meantime having completely devastated their large landholdings and estates.

- Thomas Nelson, signer of Virginia, was at the front in command of the Virginia military forces. With British General Charles Cornwallis in Yorktown, fire from 70 heavy American guns began to destroy Yorktown piece by piece. Lord Cornwallis and his staff moved their headquarters into Nelson's palatial home. While American cannonballs were making a shambles of the town, the house of Governor Nelson remained untouched. Nelson turned in rage to the American gunners and asked, "Why do you spare my home?" They replied, "Sir, out of respect to you." Nelson cried, "Give me the cannon!" and fired on his magnificent home himself, smashing it to bits. But Nelson's sacrifice was not quite over. He had raised $2 million for the Revolutionary cause by pledging his own estates. When the loans came due, a newer peacetime Congress refused to honor them, and Nelson's property was forfeited. He was never reimbursed. He died, impoverished, a few years later at the age of 50.

Lives, fortunes, honor

Of those 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine died of wounds or hardships during the war. Five were captured and imprisoned, in each case with brutal treatment. Several lost wives, sons or entire families. One lost his 13 children. Two wives were brutally treated. All were at one time or another the victims of manhunts and driven from their homes.

Twelve signers had their homes completely burned.

Seventeen lost everything they owned. Yet not one defected or went back on his pledged word. Their honor, and the nation they sacrificed so much to create is still intact.

And, finally, there is the New Jersey Signer, Abraham Clark.

He gave two sons to the officer corps in the Revolutionary Army. They were captured and sent to that infamous British prison hulk afloat in New York Harbor known as the hell ship "Jersey," where 11,000 American captives were to die. The younger Clarks were treated with a special brutality because of their father.

One was put in solitary and given no food. With the end almost in sight with the war almost won, no one could have blamed Abraham Clark for acceding to the British request when they offered him his sons' lives if he would recant and come out for the King and Parliament. The utter despair in this man's heart, the anguish in his very soul, must reach out to each and one of us down through 200 years with the answer: "No."

The 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence proved by their every deed that they made no idle boast when they composed the most magnificent curtain line in history. "And for the support of this Declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

- Rush H. Limbaugh, Jr.

Rush Limbaugh, radio commentator, is the son of Rush H. Limbaugh Jr
 
Woowoo, why don't you look into what Barry Goldwater had to say about moderation in pursuit of justice and liberty.
 
sounds like you are getting tired. go work on your tans, and think of nothing for awhile. get back to the campaign when you feel better. Ron Paul IS going to win, because we are all telling several peope each day, who are telling others all around this country, and by the time the primaries are here, enough will know for him to win.
 
Another thought:

Ron Paul is not a young guy, and even though he is healthy, he will be a VERY old man in 20 years!

Yet he has spent 20 years already in service to his country as a Congressman. You know his record and you know it was REALLY public service, not like the in-it-for-their-ego politicians. He I am sure is sacrificing his "personal life" on a scale that we cannot even comprehend, and he has committed the next 8 years of his life to that service as well. He has sacrificed a lot financially by not taking part in the congressional pension plan, to stand on principle. And he does it without complaining and I think it is even something he does GLADLY and his wonderful wife and family support him GLADLY because they understand what is on the line.

If your family is feeling neglected, then some education needs to be done at home. If you are personally feeling over burdened - definitely! - step back and take some R&R and come back if and when you feel ready to.

But I don't think coming here and encouraging others to, in essence, "lay down their arms" is helpful in any way.
 
WooWooWoo22---

Below is the answer to your "let's Give it all UP- attitude"



Mel Gibson in "The Patriot"-

"Sir, I have a family. I do not have the luxury of principles"

Then watch his family get decimated, and see what his response was. We are all slowly watching the economic and legislative destruction of our nation and it's foundation. We must act, or our children will look back and say, "What were you thinking, Dad?"

I have a family of 7, 5 children. My son is coming with me to the Ron Paul rally in Ft. Lauderdale. I don't think anyone is spending every waking hour on Ron, and negecting their family. If so, please reprioritize.

However, I agree with specs...get your family involved. Children love to see a strong mom and dad standing up for their beliefs. Use the moment to teach them.

I was making tri-fold brochures last night for today's rally, and my son said, "Dad, why do you like Ron Paul so much?" I used that time to teach him about liberty, the Founders and the Constitution, and the slow degradation of freedoms in this country over the years. He then understood, and wanted to come with me!!

We can all lead our families this way, and support Ron too!!

Thanks CJ :cool:

For Your Dedication and True Spirit...:) :) :) '

:cool: :) Largo:) :cool:
 
Thoughts are things!

Your negativity does not help the situation. The future of our FREEDOM is at stake! If you want anything for your family, you should focus as much time as you can on this campaign. Massive results come from massive action and if you want to be half-assed about it, be my guest, but don't go bringing the whole ship down with you. We need everyone to sacrifice their precious lives for a short time while we fight this revolution, which btw, will turn much more serious if we don't put in the effort now. We've been ignoring this for years and its time we pay attention now! In 10 years, you'll be able to hold your head high and talk about how it was tough not to focus entirely on them but you did it for them...
 
Looking at it objectively - Ron Paul is unlikely to win. The primary reason has nothing to do with the media - it is the people. Socialism is to blame. Too many on the dole in some way, and too few fitting the bill.
Oh man...don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning.
 
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