Donald Trump has a non-intervionist foreign poilicy?

paulbot1776 said:
well trump wants to audit the fed? don't you agree with that?
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Do you not speak English? I said "just about" which meant leaving the possibility of something else I agree with him on. That said his "audit the fed" pledge is a transparent push for Ron/Rand supporters nothing more. He's still the asshole that supports the TARP bailouts. Nobody that really supports such bailouts actually wants an audit of the fed.

paulbot1776 said:
trump has stated that he will put sanctions back on iran.
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And ^that is interventionist, counterproductive and stupid. Iran is who is destroying ISIS at the moment with the help of Russia. It is Iranian troops on the ground which is why we don't need U.S. troops on the ground. In fact Iraq said "Thank you for the off America, but we don't need you to send any troops."
 
paulbot1776 said:
Trump will ban the muslims, this is a good thing as muslims don't want democracy, they want sharia law. this is why iraq was a big mistake. Setting up democracy where muslims don't want it is bad idea.
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That's a horrible idea, go to hell and have a neg rep for supporting it. It's also bullshit to claim Muslims want sharia law. First off the poll Trump spouts to support the claim actually states that most Muslims don't even want sharia law for Muslims. (51% actually). And second, the 49% only said they wanted Muslims to have the option of sharia law. Guess what? They already do just like Jews have the option of having some matters settled under Mosaic law. It's called the right of contract. If you were a true Ron Paul supporter you would understand that. Any two parties can draft a contract that says "Any disputes in this contract will be handled under X" where "X" is sharia law or islamic law or whatever it is you want law. Such a contract cannot superscede the laws of the land. For example, under Mosaic law you can legally sell your daughter into slavery. (If you don't know that go read your Bible jackass.) But since slavery is not allowed under the U.S. contract, a Mosaic contract selling one's daughter into slavery is not allowed. So why are people who are freaking out about sharia law not up in arms about Jews being able to contract under Mosaic law? Because most Christians are just stupid. I'm a Christian myself so I can say that. And don't give me that crap about "But islam is spread through conquest." Again read your Bible, this time the book of Joshua and learn about the Jewish genocidal conquest of Canaan. And while Christianity started off peaceful, it turned back to its hyperviolent Judaic roots once it became merged with the Roman state under Constantine.

Beyond that, how the hell would you enforce your idea? How do you know who's Muslim and who's not? By the country that they come from? By their last name? I bet you can't name a prominent Christian who was in Saddam Hussein's cabinet. Now supposedly this "ban the Muslims" plan is just to "screen out the terrorists" right? If your a terrorist determined to strike America why can't you just say "Christian" or "atheist" on your VISA application? And to really make this work you would need a worldwide database of everybody's religion. That's because Middle Easterners who might immigrate to some European country first will not have their religion stamped on their passport. It's a stupid, stupid idea. And supposedly Trump only wants this as a "temporary" measure until he figures out what the "problem" is, whatever that is supposed to mean. Good grief are you trying to make me hate Trump or are you just that stupid?
 
paulbot1776 said:
POLL: If Donald Trump shot a Muslim who was raping a woman in a dark ally would you support his judgement to shoot?
https://twitter.com/Tea_Alliance/status/691455487011790848
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What if he was a black Christian? What if he was a white Christian? Black Christians and white Christians have committed rape before. Why does it only matter if the rapist was an illegal immigrant or a Muslim? Seriously dude you are as dumb as rocks. Are you one of the Trump supporters that said yes to the question "Should we bomb Agriba?" It's stupid people like you that make me hate Trump. I don't dislike Trump as much as I hate his supporters.
 
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jmdrake said:
I think you have a very recent join date and only two posts. That said sure. He's a non-interventionist. He's still wrong on just about everything else.
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Come on man, you should know better, he is not anti interventionist, he is a liar playing his idiot supporter for fools and even you are falling for it. He has said(lied) that he was against the Libyan war, said he was against the Iraqi war but evidence shows that he supported the war before the necons started pushing for it and continued to support it up until the public turned against it.

I would say this and continue to say it even if nobody listens to me, the man is a fraud, he is not a non interventionist, not a conservative, not a white nationalist, not the next Hitler etc etc, he is just a north eastern confused liberal with strong ties to top Zionists and the Clintons, who is doing all he can to destroy the republican party for at most 8 years. He's also not going to win (I will bookmark this and post it after he loses the way Trump supporters like to remind us that Trump said Ron Paul would lose or he is a loser) and you are wasting your time treating his campaign promises as serious policy positions.

Here you can see him support Obama, Clinton, Kerry and Israel's solution for Libya



And go to the website and you will see that this so called crisis is what inspired him to bring out his camera and start vlogging. You have to wonder which neocon adviser told him to make it? and if he is still around now? Also you can see from his other Libya war videos that the man is completely clueless and heartless. For one, he thinks the rebels are Iranian supporter (anyone with an IQ of 80 and an internet connection knows this is not true) and his big concern is taking 50-75% of their oil to "make America rich again". Considering that Libya with 6 million people and 100% of their oil is not super rich but this man thinks taking 50-75% of a small fortune would make the US "rich again".



For the love of god, stop believing the lies he tells on the campaign trail, he doesn't believe any of those things. He just says what he thinks will make him sound smart. I promise you, if the Libyan and Iraqi war had gone well, the same man would be using the same evidence I have been posting on this website to show how right he has been about the wars.
 
Okay. He's a pragmatic interventionist then. So freaking what? He's still better on foreign policy than Hillary who can't admit that the Libyan war was wrong and that still wants war with Syria or Rubio and Kasich who agree with her but still think the war in Iraq was justified even though it went badly. And it's a good thing that the American people realize now that the wars in Iraq, Syria and Libya went badly. That shows, on a certain level, that non-interventionism is winning even if the best non interventionist lost. But people like you are so blinded in your pursuit of trying to convince someone like me who has clearly said that I do not like Donald Trump to dislike Donald Trump that YOU are carrying the neocon water for them! Seriously. Lindsey Graham and John McCain have been spinning the Rand loss like there's no tomorrow based on the false belief that it signalled a rejection of non-interventionism. Bat guano! Donald Trump, whether he's a non-interventionist or not, picked up the non-interventionist ball and ran with it like there is no tomorrow! But you're so busy fighting a non-existent battle that you are actually helping the neocons make their much needed "We're still winning" argument. Good job!

Edit: And for the record everybody accepts Donald Trump as being "anti immigrant" and "anti Muslim" even though he didn't start singing that tune until long after he started sounding non-interventionist.

juleswin said:
Come on man, you should know better, he is not anti interventionist, he is a liar playing his idiot supporter for fools and even you are falling for it. He has said(lied) that he was against the Libyan war, said he was against the Iraqi war but evidence shows that he supported the war before the necons started pushing for it and continued to support it up until the public turned against it.

I would say this and continue to say it even if nobody listens to me, the man is a fraud, he is not a non interventionist, not a conservative, not a white nationalist, not the next Hitler etc etc, he is just a north eastern confused liberal with strong ties to top Zionists and the Clintons, who is doing all he can to destroy the republican party for at most 8 years. He's also not going to win (I will bookmark this and post it after he loses the way Trump supporters like to remind us that Trump said Ron Paul would lose or he is a loser) and you are wasting your time treating his campaign promises as serious policy positions.

Here you can see him support Obama, Clinton, Kerry and Israel's solution for Libya



And go to the website and you will see that this so called crisis is what inspired him to bring out his camera and start vlogging. You have to wonder which neocon adviser told him to make it? and if he is still around now? Also you can see from his other Libya war videos that the man is completely clueless and heartless. For one, he thinks the rebels are Iranian supporter (anyone with an IQ of 80 and an internet connection knows this is not true) and his big concern is taking 50-75% of their oil to "make America rich again". Considering that Libya with 6 million people and 100% of their oil is not super rich but this man thinks taking 50-75% of a small fortune would make the US "rich again".



For the love of god, stop believing the lies he tells on the campaign trail, he doesn't believe any of those things. He just says what he thinks will make him sound smart. I promise you, if the Libyan and Iraqi war had gone well, the same man would be using the same evidence I have been posting on this website to show how right he has been about the wars.
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paulbot1776 said:
Trump has said that he would have left Saadam and Gadaffi in power. That sounds like a non-interventionist policy to me. What do you guys think?
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He also said that the biggest thing we did wrong in Iraq was in not keeping their oil. He is all over the board on every issue
 
To his credit, in the last debate he said that countries like Korea/Japan and the Western European nations needed to start defending themselves and rely less on us.
 
supermario21 said:
To his credit, in the last debate he said that countries like Korea/Japan and the Western European nations needed to start defending themselves and rely less on us.
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He's been saying that since the late 1980s.
 
Origanalist said:
Do you get overtime for the weekends or just straight pay?
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I get paid nothing. I've been a member longer than you. I am engaging in the 2016 Presidential Forum. If you don't like my opinion, so be it. You can do what you like.
 
AuH20 said:
I get paid nothing. I've been a member longer than you. I am engaging in the 2016 Presidential Forum. If you don't like my opinion, so be it. You can do what you like.
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Not even a little? I'm impressed. Your dedication is amazing.

You are truly a Great American.
 
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angelatc said:
He also said that the biggest thing we did wrong in Iraq was in not keeping their oil. He is all over the board on every issue
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He could be for sacrificing babies in the public square at this point and the argument to support him over the alternatives would still be compelling.
 
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