Dokes's now saying Ron Paul supporters were 'getting physical'!! Doesn't he no abt videos

My source is one of the organizers for St. Charles County who speaks with the Paul campaign. As others have mentioned he could just be covering his ass, but I bet there was different scenarios they had planned in advance. The form you filled out when you signed in had a straw poll at the bottom (which was against state GOP rules). They used this as a means to figure out how many people were there, who they were voting for, and how they stacked up. Once they figured that out they implemented whichever plan was called for.

This would be similar to the state convention in 2008. All suspected Ron Paul delegates were challenged and cordoned off and guarded by a biker gang at the convention. Once the credentials committee figured out we didn't have enough people to make a difference they let us participate. If we had more, they would've kept us from participating. That's the only reason I can think they would go through all the trouble of segregating us and hiring a biker gang to guard us.

I also talked to Brent yesterday and he told me some things, but not sure if he wants me to mention them quite yet. I will touch base with him today and see if he is okay with me discussing what we talked about
 
Liberty Rebellion said:
Dokes has contacted the Paul campaign locally and said that he was setup as the fall guy. He is willing to talk apparently and he was given various scripts ahead of time and that is the one they decided to go with.

More to come...
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BlackTerrel said:
I will be very interested in the "more to come" if there really is more to this.
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WilliamC said:
If he's being used as a fall guy and is trying to cover his butt then he has a vested interest in getting his story out.

If he's willing to name names in a civil trial this could be huge, and if he is willing to give statements that he was conspiring in fraud and being somehow paid to commit fraud it may become a criminal issue.

The Paul campaign already sued over the Huntsman daughter video out of New Hampshire, and this would possibly be a much tighter case.
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Lets just hope he takes down some big names in the MO GOP
 
hillertexas said:
Theory: Dokes knows there is video now and he knows he lied and it will be shown on it....so he is trying to explain why he did it. He was probably given a whole story to tell. He probably just realized he was the fall guy. Guy thought he was an up and coming politician....but now he finds out he is just cannon fodder for someone else.
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JonGod said:
He has little to no excuse for what happened, I have a feeling, though, that this is the type of guy that will stick to what happened til the bitter end, I am not buying that he even said this yet, there hasn't been any proof. No offense to the guy who originally posted this.
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UtahApocalypse said:
Lets just hope he takes down some big names in the MO GOP
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He's at the beginning of his political "career" and he's already facing the wrath of controversy. It could be easy to buckle under such pressure. Just ask the Kony 2012 fim maker dude. With that said, sooooo hoping this happens:

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Liberty Rebellion said:
As others have mentioned he could just be covering his ass, but I bet there was different scenarios they had planned in advance. The form you filled out when you signed in had a straw poll at the bottom (which was against state GOP rules). They used this as a means to figure out how many people were there, who they were voting for, and how they stacked up. Once they figured that out they implemented whichever plan was called for.
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This is what I suspect happened also. Dokes probably felt pretty important being included in the big boys club at the time, eh? Personally he doesn't strike me as a bad guy....just a useful idiot to those people.
 
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I don't believe Dokes will be allowed to "tell all" he knows - they will knock him off first. Those who control this won't allow their names to go public. JMO
 
hillertexas said:
Theory: Dokes knows there is video now and he knows he lied and it will be shown on it....so he is trying to explain why he did it. He was probably given a whole story to tell. He probably just realized he was the fall guy. Guy thought he was an up and coming politician....but now he finds out he is just cannon fodder for someone else.
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Dokes is just a patsy... keep an eye out for Jack Ruby.
 
I think you guys are missing the big picture... Just think how proud Dr. King would be that we finally live in a colorblind society where some oppress, not for the color of one's skin, but for the content of their character.

(That was my clever way of saying that us Paul supporters are the new black people in this country. You'd like to think Dokes can see this, but I'm sure green is the only color he cares about)
 
Liberty Rebellion said:
My source is one of the organizers for St. Charles County who speaks with the Paul campaign. As others have mentioned he could just be covering his ass, but I bet there was different scenarios they had planned in advance. The form you filled out when you signed in had a straw poll at the bottom (which was against state GOP rules). They used this as a means to figure out how many people were there, who they were voting for, and how they stacked up. Once they figured that out they implemented whichever plan was called for.

This would be similar to the state convention in 2008. All suspected Ron Paul delegates were challenged and cordoned off and guarded by a biker gang at the convention. Once the credentials committee figured out we didn't have enough people to make a difference they let us participate. If we had more, they would've kept us from participating. That's the only reason I can think they would go through all the trouble of segregating us and hiring a biker gang to guard us.

I also talked to Brent yesterday and he told me some things, but not sure if he wants me to mention them quite yet. I will touch base with him today and see if he is okay with me discussing what we talked about
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Yeah, I think you should probably keep it to yourself unless you have clearance, as much as we want to know, we want to win, more.

To an earlier poster who asked 'what video', let's just say the 'rules' of no video, like the 'rules' that the organizers could disqualify delegates for whatever reason they wanted, which were posted at the door, were never voted in because they had not enough people to vote them in. What votes they faked, they ignored the majority on, ignored the 'point of order' calls and calls for 'division' etc.

It is ALL on video. Many many many sources from many many many angles and many many many distances. I am confident we have plenty of video. When they demanded the police make the guy with the big camera turn it off, it seems that everyone with a cell phone spontaneously took it out and started to video.
 
sailingaway said:
Yeah, I think you should probably keep it to yourself unless you have clearance, as much as we want to know, we want to win, more.

To an earlier poster who asked 'what video', let's just say the 'rules' of no video, like the 'rules' that the organizers could disqualify delegates for whatever reason they wanted, which were posted at the door, were never voted in because they had not enough people to vote them in. What votes they faked, they ignored the majority on, ignored the 'point of order' calls and calls for 'division' etc.

It is ALL on video. Many many many sources from many many many angles and many many many distances. I am confident we have plenty of video. When they demanded the police make the guy with the big camera turn it off, it seems that everyone with a cell phone spontaneously took it out and started to video.
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Yep, isn't it great how "no cameras" is pretty much the equivalent of "Okay, nobody panic, but..."
 
HOLLYWOOD said:
St. Charles County Republicans embarrassed by caucus shutdown
BY JAKE WAGMAN [email][email protected][/email] > 314-622-3580

I presume someone that attended, has sent Jake Wagman the Youtube vids? ....or at least called him about Stoke's rigging the caucus and doing nothing but lying/CYA
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there are SO MANY vids we need to weed out the good ones that don't just hear upset crowd noise from the vantage of whereever the cell phone is, but hear what was happening on the floor with the Romney floor captain and Brent Stafford making nominations, and points of order, and calls for division and calls to reconvene until the organizers turned off the mike and told the police to kick them out etc.
 
HOLLYWOOD said:
St. Charles County Republicans embarrassed by caucus shutdown
BY JAKE WAGMAN [email][email protected][/email] > 314-622-3580

I presume someone that attended, has sent Jake Wagman the Youtube vids? ....or at least called him about Stoke's rigging the caucus and doing nothing but lying/CYA
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"Much of the ire for what transpired Saturday has been directed at Eugene Dokes, who, as chairman of the county's GOP committee, played a key role in leading the caucus.

Dokes said he grew concerned Saturday after supporters of White House hopeful Ron Paul were "beginning to get physical."
"At one point there was four or five people surrounding me," Dokes recalled Sunday. "I didn't think it was safe."Dokes said,

"We were asked by the police to shut it down" although police in St. Peters, where the event was held, issued a statement Saturday saying it was organizers who decided to disband the meeting." - Dokes loss of credibility emphasis

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