DOJ indicts Jesse Benton and John Tate

[Krugminator2]

Why in the world did you post this in the Rand section? This is about certain people from Ron's 2012 campaign.

This news is almost entirely to do with Rand. I guess you are being sarcastic(?)

Given that this law is unconstitutional and unlibertarian, even if Benton is shown to have clearly broken the law, I have all the confidence in the world you will defend him against doing jail time for the exact same reasons and with the same passion you defended Snowden.

 

[Smitty]

Jesse

http://tomwoods.com/blog/my-memories-of-jesse-bento/

 

[cajuncocoa]

This news is almost entirely to do with Rand. I guess you are being sarcastic(?)

Given that this law is unconstitutional and unlibertarian, even if Benton is shown to have clearly broken the law, I have all the confidence in the world you will defend him against doing jail time for the exact same reasons and with the same passion you defended Snowden.

If I were a mod on this board, I would have done everything possible to move this from being associated with Rand right now. After all, it's not entirely about Rand. But, that's just me.

Comparing Benton to Snowden.....LOL

 

[devil21]

This is front page of the "politics" section on CNN. They will definitely attach this to Rand.

It'll be a debate question and then get some time in the news cycle afterward to drown out the rest of his debate performance. I don't think it'll hurt Rand in the long run unless there are other people involved in his campaign that will be indicted later.

I dig the avatar btw. Always giggle when I see it.

 

[Deborah K]

This news is almost entirely to do with Rand. I guess you are being sarcastic(?)

Given that this law is unconstitutional and unlibertarian, even if Benton is shown to have clearly broken the law, I have all the confidence in the world you will defend him against doing jail time for the exact same reasons and with the same passion you defended Snowden.

Are you comparing Benton to Snowden? Really???

 

[phill4paul]

Jesse

http://tomwoods.com/blog/my-memories-of-jesse-bento/

Bentonism. Kinda like Botulism, only worse.

 

[Lord Xar]

It is just sooo discouraging how controlled we all are.... and how the whole system is rigged. It really just infuriates me...

1.) released day before debates
2.) front page yahoo, cnn etc... RAND PAUL's super PAC head charged ... etc...

Then of course, all the news outlets propagate it and promote it.. its like a well oiled manipulative machine.

I'm just amazed at how organic government and its parasitic carryons have become. Literally moving and manipulating to keep its power intact.
It's becoming too powerful to overcome, imho.

 

[Krugminator2]

Are you comparing Benton to Snowden? Really???

Not as people. Benton is the worst of the worst. For him to be part of campaign is unconscionable.

But on principle, yeah. If you are going to defend one person on libertarian grounds against jail time, you should defend people consistently. Campaign finance laws violate the First Amendment and they violate property rights.

 

[Carlybee]

you're right, I wasn't on here. What's your point?

You can't trash Benton without negatively hurting the Paul family. He's family, the family trusted him and paid him. If he's a plant, toxic, or infiltrator, what you're really saying is the family and campaign were too stupid to know and find out. I refuse to believe the Paul family makes mistakes and bad judgment calls, so the only logical conclusion is that the federal government and Democrats are out to get Paul's family.

Because you don't know what a lot of us felt he did to sabotage Ron's campaign..I'm not going into it..there are threads...and emails. I agree these indictments were saved and handed down at just the right time but that doesn't make Jesse Benton any less of a liability than he has been from the beginning. I would say his family is trusting. Oh and everyone makes mistakes and bad judgment calls so if you are serious which I doubt, with that comment..that's just silly.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Not as people. Benton is the worst of the worst. For him to be part of campaign is unconscionable.

But on principle, yeah. If you are going to defend one person on libertarian grounds against jail time, you should defend people consistently. Campaign finance laws violate the First Amendment and they violate property rights.

Let me know when Benton has to move to a foreign country because he has to fear for his life in this one.

 

[jj-]

Are you comparing Benton to Snowden? Really???

Yes, why not? Both are indicted by unfair laws, that they have in common. Are you saying campaign finance laws are constitutional?

I guess some people think you can only compare two people if they're about exactly the same? What?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It is just sooo discouraging how controlled we all are.... and how the whole system is rigged. It really just infuriates me...

1.) released day before debates
2.) front page yahoo, cnn etc... RAND PAUL's super PAC head charged ... etc...

Then of course, all the news outlets propagate it and promote it.. its like a well oiled manipulative machine.

I'm just amazed at how organic government and its parasitic carryons have become. Literally moving and manipulating to keep its power intact.
It's becoming too powerful to overcome, imho.

The Ministry of Truth and the Ministry of Love, working together like a well-oiled machine.

 

[PRB]

The negative spin against Rand has begun.

if that's the best they got, it won't stick.

 

[Deborah K]

Not as people. Benton is the worst of the worst. For him to be part of campaign is unconscionable.

But on principle, yeah. If you are going to defend one person on libertarian grounds against jail time, you should defend people consistently. Campaign finance laws violate the First Amendment and they violate property rights.

Motives are a factor when making comparisons like this.

 

[Krugminator2]

Motives are a factor when making comparisons like this.

No they actually don't matter.

 

[PRB]

Jesse Benton has always struck me as this hog headed Pee Wee Herman type of character.

As for the rest of what you have to say,...."whatever".

because you've been brainwashed by the liberal media.

 

[jj-]

Ok, for the emotional people who can't see Snowden and Benton in the same sentence, let's make a different comparison.

Let's not make a comparison between Snowden and Benton, but between their indictments.

Both Benton and Snowden were indicted under unfair laws. Campaign finance laws, which were used against Benton, are unconstitutional.

Does that mean Benton and Snowden are similar in being good or bad people? No.

Was that easier to take emotionally and understand?

 

[Deborah K]

Yes, why not? Both are indicted by unfair laws, that they have in common. Are you saying campaign finance laws are constitutional?

I guess some people think you can only compare two people if they're about exactly the same? What?

I understand your point from a purely ideological pov, but does that mean bank robbers should not be indicted either, since money has no value? Snowden's intent was to expose public privacy violations being committed by the gov't. Benton was just playing a risky game.

 

[Jamesiv1]

naahh.... you guys got it all wrong.

What kind of lame-ass candidate (or someone within the inner circle) doesn't have an indictment or two? Hell, in politics it's like earning your stripes.

Street cred.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I understand your point from a purely ideological pov, but does that mean bank robbers should not be indicted either, since money has no value? Snowden's intent was to expose public privacy violations being committed by the gov't. Benton was just playing a risky game.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Deborah K again.