DOJ indicts Jesse Benton and John Tate

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Carlybee]

On another note: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...nd-Paul-2016&p=5478845&viewfull=1#post5478845

LOL!

Sig worthy

 

[timosman]

He woo'ed a young granddaughter of Ron's. Very common infiltration tactic.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/354807/rand-mitch-katrina-trinko

Benton met his wife, Valori, in 2007, when he had arranged for Valori and other Paul family members to talk to a Texas Monthly reporter as part of the campaign. The two married a year later, around when Benton became involved with Paul’s Campaign for Liberty, which was launched in 2008.

 

[Deborah K]

You've deluded no one except yourself. Just a quick question before you respond...have you read the indictment?

http://www.justice.gov/opa/file/643166/download

Actually, Rand could parlay this circumstance into an advantage - people just might pay much closer attention to what he says tomorrow. That could work in his favor if his answers are on point.

 

[devil21]

No Collins? Aww come on.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...lude-Jesse-Benton/page22&highlight=indictment

Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
And he's also inches away from a federal campaign fraud indictment.

Collins
You have no way of knowing that.

devil21
But yet I still do. Hmmph go figure.

Collins
No you don't, you just think you do.

And again, you don't know what you're talking about.

This comment just shows how ignorant and irrational you really are. You must be a fan of Alex Jones, right?

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[SilentBull]

Actually, Rand could parlay this circumstance into an advantage - people just might pay much closer attention to what he says tomorrow. That could work in his favor if his answers are on point.

I really hope Rand does try to use this to his advantage. He needs to come up with something really good to say. I mean this happening the day before the debate is just incredible. He could compare this to the IRS targeting of conservatives. How afraid must they be, that they won't even let the man debate in peace? They are THAT afraid!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Give it a rest. Benton married into the Paul family after he latched on to the 2008 campaign, he's not blood. He woo'ed a young granddaughter of Ron's. Very common infiltration tactic.

I also see no "infighting" here. Long time supporters knew Benton was toxic a long time ago.

Yes, just like they *knew* that Ron's Campaign for Liberty were traitorous scum for appearing to support a candidate who wasn't pure as the driven snow in Colorado. Many here were ripping people to shreds that Ron had personally appointed to their positions in the CFL and the attacks were more than a bit personal. UNTIL, Ron called the owner of The Daily Paul and explained the whole thing and that Ron himself had been behind it and why it was important that it had been done. Michael was more than embarrassed and posted a long retraction. Here, however, I saw very few holding their heads in shame for what they had done.

More than a few people here don't wait for the facts and they apparently care less what damage they do to the movement or individuals, for that matter.

You didn't used to be one of them.

 

[David Sadler]

Isn't Rick Perry under indictment himself and is still running for President?

Dominoes fall ...

Ed Klein: Hillary Racing to Stave Off Indictment
Newsmax
Wednesday August 05, 2015

Klein said he also believes Clinton is in "a kind of race against time."

"Which is going to come first, is she going to be able to sew up the nomination by just throwing more money, more organization at the primaries so that she is unbeatable – or will a criminal indictment come down from the Justice Department [over her personal email system while Secretary of State] before that fact?" Klein said.

"And they're very concerned about which is going to come first."

Trump: What Hillary Has Done is Criminal
Breitbart
26 Jul 2015

Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Republican presidential candidate ... Donald Trump said he will beat Hillary Clinton because her refusal to turn over her private email server in light of a congressional subpoena is “criminal.”

Host Jake Tapper pointed out that in the latest polls Trump would lose to Hillary Clinton in a head-to-head match up, to which Trump replied, “The fact is that what she has done is criminal. I mean what she has done is criminal. I don’t see how she can run because if the prosecutors who are all Democrats by the way, and that’s part of the problem with fairness here, they’re all Democrats, so they’re protecting her, but if you had an impartial prosecutor and they were honorable, and maybe they are, we’re going to find out but what she’s done is criminal.”

He added, “What she did is far worse than what General Petraeus did and he’s gone down in disgrace. What he did is not as bad as what Hillary Clinton did, and it’s similar. But it’s not as bad. I mean, she got rid of her server. He never did anything like that. And she did it after getting a subpena from the Untied States Congress..So with Hillary I think I’ll beat Hillary easily. I think I will beat Hillary. I don’t think these other guys will.”

 

[Deborah K]

I really hope Rand does try to use this to his advantage. He needs to come up with something really good to say. I mean this happening the day before the debate is just incredible. He could compare this to the IRS targeting of conservatives. How afraid must they be, that they won't even let the man debate in peace? They are THAT afraid!

Benton has disgraced the Pauls. But this situation is easily dismissed if Rand speaks to the public's core issues. It's still early, and the public has a short memory.

 

[loveshiscountry]

Why was it so important to get Sorenson to endorse Ron Paul that he had to be bribed? How much did he matter?

 

[timosman]

Actually, Rand could parlay this circumstance into an advantage - people just might pay much closer attention to what he says tomorrow. That could work in his favor if his answers are on point.

That could be the silver lining. It still does not take away the impression from both Ron and Rand campaigns to be rather infantile.

 

[Deborah K]

Dominoes fall ...

Hillary still needs to answer to Benghazi as well (as far as a lot of people are concerned). That one is going to haunt her.

 

[Deborah K]

That could be the silver lining. It still does not take away the impression from both Ron and Rand campaigns to be rather infantile.

In the grand scheme of things.....I'll take 'infantile'.

 

[Chieppa1]

The negative spin against Rand has begun.

 

[Ender]

TPTB have played their biggest card. The Ministry of Truth couldn't keep Rand out of the debate, so now it's time for the Ministry of Love to step in...

My first thought as well.

 

[cajuncocoa]

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[timosman]

Why was it so important to get Sorenson to endorse Ron Paul that he had to be bribed? How much did he matter?

Jesse got over his head at the opportunity to pull the strings behind the scenes. Two assholes got together and then shit happened.

 

[devil21]

Yes, just like they *knew* that Ron's Campaign for Liberty were traitorous scum for appearing to support a candidate who wasn't pure as the driven snow in Colorado.

Ken Buck had not a single thing in common with the movement, not then and not now. He is now in the House. Would you like to provide a list of his liberty oriented votes since his election? I'll wait.

Many here were ripping people to shreds that Ron had personally appointed to their positions in the CFL and the attacks were more than a bit personal. UNTIL, Ron called the owner of The Daily Paul and explained the whole thing and that Ron himself had been behind it and why it was important that it had been done. Michael was more than embarrassed and posted a long retraction. Here, however, I saw very few holding their heads in shame for what they had done.

I'm of the mind that Ron didn't do much of his staff picking, regardless of what he claimed. Enter Benton and Rothfeld, et al, who I am convinced are not and never were friends of the movement.

More than a few people here don't wait for the facts and they apparently care less what damage they do to the movement or individuals, for that matter.

You didn't used to be one of them.

My eyes are wide open. There are very big stakes in this game and anyone still carrying today the same naivete' that they carried 7 years ago hasn't learned a thing.

 

[Chieppa1]

This is front page of the "politics" section on CNN. They will definitely attach this to Rand.

 

[angelatc]

Jesse got over his head at the opportunity to pull the strings behind the scenes. Two assholes got together and then shit happened.

I honestly think youve nailed it. Benton has always seemed to believe himself above the common man, and that rules did not apply to him. And really, that is the attitude that breeds success in this country. That is why Congress is full of lawyers and not accountants.

The thing is - the guys like Boehner, McConnell, Obama...they do this crap all the time. And they ignore each other. But to think that a young upstart that is looking to dismantle everything that DC stands for would be allowed to get away with it is naive.

And that's why it should not have been allowed to happen.