doesnt paul owe supporters an independent run?

YES, THAT IS TRUE. Everyone must continue to spread his message and his candidacy. He is not out and he only ruled out a 3rd party run. Independent run would be likely once we know that it is Hillary vs. McCain.

We must continue to try and gather as much support as possible. We have garnered some 600k + votes without the media's help in the Primary! Didn't he only get some 450k votes in the general election of 1988? Continue fighting for more supporters that will vote for him no MATTER WHAT!

The Ron Paul Revolution is too important to give up or slack off. Just talking about him to people can do wonders, even if they do not agree at the time you are speaking of him. Getting people unplugged from the matrix of sheeple one at a time until the general election is the best we can do. We owe it to our Founding Fathers and to Ron Paul, for risking it all for the sake of our precious Constitutional Republic.

I do hope everyone in here will continue to stick around and continue for Congress/Pres. Election 2012. It is such a pleasure to be apart of something so incredibly great.
 
All I know is, Im handing out slimjims at the Huckabee rally tomorrow and asking Huckabee why he is a CFR schill. This changes nothing.
 
Ron Paul is not going to surrender, and John McCain will not take the Republican nomination without the fight of his life. Your donations and work as Precinct Leaders are needed now more than ever. Thank you all for everything you’ve done so far — the revolution has just begun.



that was posted in the daily dose blog.. i just regained hope they have something else planned now to take mccain on..
 
You guys need to read through the lines. He can't say it.
No, he just made it very, very clear. He wouldn't rule it out, and risk alienating the people holding out for that by making a public statement about it to the supporters.

We are riding this republican car until the wheels fall off.
Until there is change. No excuse for the so-called liberty holdouts to continue holding out on taking over the GOP and making it the Liberty party.

Then start bitchin if he stops...
Dr. Paul is 73 years old. He has given his lifetime to humanity, in the military, as a doctor and in Congress. He is entitled to stop anytime he wants. He has done his part and much more.
 
No. He has always said he had "no intention" of running 3rd party and always talked of being a Republican.

At one time, he ran as a fucking Libertarian and officially resigned, in writing, from the GOP! How stupid are you people?
 
even if he feels some party loyalty to the original republican party, what it has become is nothing he approves of and he hates how they treat him and his supporters
going independent would not be running away, it would be starting new.
possibly ending the two party system of america.

with all the money and support we have given him, i feel he absolutely needs to go independent and spread the message even more.

you have a black presidential candidate and a woman presidential candidate right now as front runners
that proves this election is bound to be different and do the impossible, an independent run would be perfect
especially with a mccain-hillary matchup. so many people hate both sides it might actually work

with our dedication i have no doubt we could get paul in the debates. he can take care of both hillary and mccain once he is in the debates. even if he were not to win, he would reach even more americans, furthering the reach of his message.

sorry to start a whole new thread but so many people here are just content with congress, but we could really use both right now. with the economy and everything, ron paul as president and commander in chief could make a huge difference.

NO
 
long ago

any chance of a 3rd Party Candidate wining the White House were removed some time ago - RP has been there, done that - and seen the truth of this first hand

the time for miniature government sanctioned parties is over

the only hope is with the Taft-Goldwater-Reagan-Paul Conservative Wing of the Republican Party

the other wing of the Republican Party, the Rockefeller Wing, who lie, and lie when they call themselves conservative, neo-conservative, or whatever deception they are using today, must be driven back again, but this time, driven out of Robert Taft's and Berry Goldwater's and Ronald Reagan's and Ron Paul's Party - to go with their like-minded big government socialist kind - the Democrat Party

our fathers and grandfathers compromise with them has been our undoing. no compromise! RALLY TO RON!
 
All I know is, Im handing out slimjims at the Huckabee rally tomorrow and asking Huckabee why he is a CFR schill. This changes nothing.

meh, please don't mention CFR to huckabee's supporters. half of them don't know what it is, and those who do think it's a conspiracy theory. it would take WAY too long to explain it.

Instead stress ron's pro-life and christian credentials. that is what matters to those people.
 
He absolutely doesn't owe us anything.

On the other hand, if and when it becomes clear the Republican nomination is impossible, I'm going to still write encouraging an independent (not third party) run. It doesn't hurt to ask.

That said, if he is absolutely 110% firm on staying the GOP course, I will support him, and I hope all independent-minded people will do the same. Personally, I can't leap headfirst into a disgusting corpse party shilling McCain. But I will work hard on any campaigns of local Ron Paul Republicans I'm fortunate enough to get in my area.
 
then you haven't been around politics for very long.

A third party candidate has as good a chance this year as any in history. Hillary and McCain are extremely unpopular and both voted for an extremely unpopular war.
 
He absolutely doesn't owe us anything.

On the other hand, if and when it becomes clear the Republican nomination is impossible, I'm going to still write encouraging an independent (not third party) run. It doesn't hurt to ask.

That said, if he is absolutely 110% firm on staying the GOP course, I will support him, and I hope all independent-minded people will do the same. Personally, I can't leap headfirst into a disgusting corpse party shilling McCain. But I will work hard on any campaigns of local Ron Paul Republicans I'm fortunate enough to get in my area.

The time to write is now.
 
NO NO NO...

NO 3rd Party Run,

If you do this, you will ruin the opportunity for us to take back the republican party...

All the meetup members all across America who are running for local and state level government as a "Ron Paul Republican" would be discredited with this...

IF RP doesn't get the nomination (although I think he will after the convention) He needs to support the movement for other candidates running for Federal Level offices like Jim Forsythe and Murray Sabrin,

Running 3rd party makes us all look like fringe candidates and not main stream republicans, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE THE MAIN STREAM REPUBLICANS...

I would not support a 3rd party run, and although I cannot tell other people how to vote, my opinion is if someone else gets the nomination, come November, I'll vote the democrat president, but Liberty Candidates on the republican ticket the rest of the way.

This would serve 2 purposes:

1.) Even with Hillary, as long as we get some of our local level guys in senate and congress (Terbolizard, Forsythe, Sabrin) will keep her in check for the most part...

2.) It sends Mike Duncan, Chair of the RNC a clear message that the Republican Party will never win another election without our consent and approval. Better get us Liberty Candidates or else you lose, repeatedly.

I know its dirty politics, but hey, they have screwed us for over 50 years, fight fire with fire.
 
then you haven't been around politics for very long.

The GOP convention in 2004 was a vulgar display of the police state. If you think for one minute the GOP gives a fuck about you or our movement or Dr. Paul, you're the one who hasn't been around long enough.

They've done everything they could to make sure he has no shot, they don't care about giving it to Hillary at all.

I'll write Dr. Paul in if I have to but there's NO WAY I'll support McCain
 
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