Does Ron Paul remind you of Socrates?

Bobbe22

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This struck me as odd, but while I was reading the Five Dialogues, Socrates came off to me as someone who is: very humble, persistent in his virtues, prudent of money, compassionate about his country and countrymen, follows a morally and principled lifestyle, has a strong interest in philosophy, holds the utmost respect for the rule of law, and is persistently opposed by the political and upper class-men; but has a strong following of grassroots and ideological people?

Does this sound familiar to anybody else?

Just wondering....
 
They do have their similarities, but I think Ron Paul is tolerated more than Socrates in his time.
 
They do have their similarities, but I think Ron Paul is tolerated more than Socrates in his time.

Haha, your probably right, but that could be that Socrates wasn't trying to change his political system; only to question and learn from it.
 
He's definitely a gadfly :) that's one of the reasons I love his message so freakin' much.
 
He reminds me of Cicero and Socrates, to be honest.

Socrates was slandered just like Ron Paul is. Socrates supported individualism, not collectivism; as does Ron Paul. Socrates disliked democracy (pretty strongly), and Ron Paul favors a Republic.

He really does reflect wisdom in comparison of Cicero or Socrates.

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Have you ever studied "The Allegory of the Cave?" Written by Plato, told by Socrates to Glaucon. In the allegory of the cave, there are prisoners chained to the floor. These prisoners have no clue of reality, and all they've ever known is those shackles and those caves. They cannot see anything but darkness, and hear themselves. However, "free society (puppeteers)" contribute to misleading them, about this false perception of reality. By presenting objects on the roadway, in front of the flame. This flame reflects the shadow onto the wall in front of the prisoners, and this is how they learn new things about reality. One day, a prisoner escaped--he also discovered the truths about their reality. He later returned, to forewarn his fellow imprisoned companions. They did not listen to him, as they considered it to be crazy-talk. He was dismissed, and the escapee went on his way.

Why am I talking of this? Very simple. It's a reflection of Ron Paul's story, our society, and our nation. The man which discovers truth, and attempts to forewarn those that he also use to be imprisoned with. That man now possessed what appears to be a leadership role. The Media and our current Politicians, reflect the shadow to the masses by using the flame (the flame & shadow, is parallel to media and the television). Giving them a false perception of reality. The masses easily ignore those which question the societal construct and perception of reality they've come to acknowledge as "absolute." Ron Paul is the man questioning our system, and telling people to open their eyes and see for themselves. The masses are those chained to the floor inside the cave, and those of us which you have inspired are slowly waking up to your words.

Many philosophers, had issues with democracy (the masses). Now can you see? The major crux of the problem? The masses are easily mislead. The issue is ensuring we get the proper people into those leadership roles, to avoid this misleading intention.

. . .and Ron Paul, is the start of that long overdue leadership, truly believe that.

I also wanted to discuss with all of you, the importance, of the fundamentals of philosophy. If you're not aware of what philosophy is, it's a method used in life by all--but not always consistently. It's what helps one use Critical Thinking, instead of Mere Disagreement. It's what allows people to identify a premise and a conclusion, and what helps people solve paradox's in many aspects of life. It also helps people find truths, and even many untruths of some of the most controversial topics in life. Politics and Philosophy go hand-in-hand, as politicians must talk and debate about some of the most controversial topics in life and society. I wanted to suggest to everyone here, that they study the introductions (fundamentals) to philosophy, and why they're important to help bring sanity to this country, and its politics.

Philosophy is the method, where if followed successfully, guarantees an open mind on many things.

Ron Paul is more than a politician, he's a philosopher. He uses this philosophy to help keep him a champion of the constitution, and he also uses it to determine why he stands where he stands on many issues. If you acknowledge many of Ron Pauls beliefs to be true, understanding philosophy will better assist you in understanding them. If you wish to convince the masses of why Ron Paul is the one to choose, you need to do so from a constructive and polite philosophical approach. This is the same mentality that Ron Paul encourages, rather than civil disobedience, remember? This does not mean civil disobedience doesn't have its time and place.

I apologize if this post appears to be arrogant, as this is my first post. First impressions can be painful sometimes.

Sincerely,
Philosophy and Ron Paul admirer.

(PS: There are many interpretations of [The Allegory of the Cave], read up on it yourself if you wish to better understand it, and formulate your own claims)


Just for example.
 
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He reminds me of Diogenes. When Alexander the Great asked what he wanted from him, Diogenes said "please stop blocking my light." Alexander = Government, Light = Liberty.
 
Many great men have been compared to Socrates, and many have changed the world and our understanding of it. The similarities between such giants are found most distinctly in their common virtues, those things listed in the OP. Those things which make them truly human, how we are when we are fully human. These are the virtues we struggle to attain so that we too might live such a life full of blessedness. For the believer does not believe because they love to struggle, but because they love that which they struggle for. That which has been held in waiting, what has been promised and freely given, that which even in this life has been confirmed in their hearts and in their souls of men and women to be true. Is Ron Paul like Socrates? Yes, and their faith in Truth and in Goodness proves it.
 
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