Does anyone fear that the internet...

[Agent CSL]

Yes, they are going to take the internet away. Net neutrality bills, increasing paranoia about "homegrown terrorists" (see: anonymous). One way or another they will find a way.

First they will filter it for copyrighted materials.
Then they will restrict access to certain sites for "homegrown terrorism" or "terrorist propaganda"
Then they will restrict access to certain sites for "conspiracy threats" or "threats against the state"
Then they will restrict access to certain sites for not paying the 'Web 2.0 Tax'
Then they will restrict access to your emails for not paying the 'email tax'
Then they will scan the internet for "keywords" (some say they already do this)
You will be left with MSM and big media websites.

It's going to happen whether we rise up or not, that I can guarantee. So print off all you can and store books of information.

 

[Highstreet]

Does anyone fear that the internet will be attempted to be taken away from us because of the "threat" RP and we have posed? Assuming Paul doesn't become President, the people "in charge" will have to know that we are all fired up and organizing on the internet for the long haul to make sure the Constitutional candidate in 4 years does win.. I fear they will try to take the internet away, somehow, and then it will be back to hitting the streets, which isn't bad, but you get my point...

I don't fear it.

I know it will happen. Net Neutrality has already become a back door Democrat idea. They are selling it to their sheep as the only way to protect the users from the big bad internet providers.

 

[dax702]

maybe the rest of America will wake up when they're precious internet is threatened!

 

[Highstreet]

maybe the rest of America will wake up when they're precious internet is threatened!

No one will threaten it.

They will sell it to us for $50 more per month because of the regulations to protect us from the Homegrown Terrorists.

It will be another small step in the wrong direction, but not enough people will make a stink about it because the frog is already boiling. It's not long before we are all cooked.

 

[MrZach]

What worries ME most...

Does anyone fear that the internet will be attempted to be taken away from us because of the "threat" RP and we have posed? Assuming Paul doesn't become President, the people "in charge" will have to know that we are all fired up and organizing on the internet for the long haul to make sure the Constitutional candidate in 4 years does win.. I fear they will try to take the internet away, somehow, and then it will be back to hitting the streets, which isn't bad, but you get my point...

The internet isn't the worry. The term "homegrown terrorists" is the worry... Once you start slinging that one around, you can apply it to anyone who "opposes" the government (Jefferson) and next thing you know they all lose their rights and are treated as enemy combatants with no civil liberties whatsoever...

The internet won't be "taken away" - everything else will first...

 

[Holly]

Below is quoted from the full article here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=JES20080202&articleId=7980


As far as the Pentagon is concerned the internet is not all bad, after all, it was the Department of Defense through DARPA that gave us the internet in the first place. The internet is useful not only as a business tool but also is excellent for monitoring and tracking users, acclimatizing people to a virtual world, and developing detailed psychological profiles of every user, among many other Pentagon positives. But, one problem with the current internet is the potential for the dissemination of ideas and information not consistent with US government themes and messages, commonly known as free speech. Naturally, since the plan was to completely dominate the "infosphere," the internet would have to be adjusted or replaced with an upgraded and even more Pentagon friendly successor.

 

[Holly]

It's going to happen whether we rise up or not, that I can guarantee. So print off all you can and store books of information.

I've already started. The problem though is going to be how to get some kind of accurate picture of current news and editorials that haven't been filtered or manipulated.

 

[bcreps85]

What does everyone think of that statement? If it came down to that, would you be willing to literally fight for your freedom?

Best case scenario, it never comes to that. If it did though, we wouldn't have a choice, because by that time we will no longer have the right to leave the country at our own accord, and even if we did it is likely that the globalists will have made achievements outside of the US, and anywhere we run will largely be the same anyway.

The only choice will be to fight or give up all your freedoms and live in an Orwellian society. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Guns are the last straw. Once those are taken away there is no way to fight back and gun owners recognize this.

 

[Rynx]

I would be more than willing to fight back.
This is our freedom we're talking about.
It's in times like these that I'm proud of all my first person shooter training.


Also, if and when the internet gets trafficked, the Ron Paul Revolution will have died.
There'll be no way to organize any kind of plan for a coming revolution.
Except possibly through radio waves or television station.
I think we should have a money bomb so that Ron Paul can purchase his own radio tower.​

 

[sajorojas]

What does everyone think of that statement? If it came down to that, would you be willing to literally fight for your freedom?

Bump because I'm still curious

 

[Paulitician]

I don't "fear" anything but I don't buy into the hope that the Internet will be our savior. The MSM will still have their enormous power--the only thing that will happen is a techonological shift. Yes, it might be a little easier to expose their propaganda, but I think most people will be too lazy/sheepish to care.

 

[therealjjj77]

You mean the threat of dominating 5-10% of Republican primaries?

I know where you are going with all of that, and it's good to be alert.

But don't get carried away just yet.

It will be a much larger amount if we spend the next 4 years setting up meetings in our towns once a week to study the Constitution. Take donations and do paper ads. Get the word out and unplug people from their TVs.

 

[RPinUptownChi]

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[scotto2008]

The first battle in modern warfare is to take out the enemy's communications.

If there were a "terrorist" attack that took down the Internet, would the government itself be hobbled?

After the People took over Arpanet, did the goverment create an alternate system with nationwide coverage?

 

[thuja]

there IS a threat, and i read about it on www.globalresearch.ca, probably in the pol state category.

 

[CorkyAgain]

Does anyone fear that the internet will be attempted to be taken away from us because of the "threat" RP and we have posed? Assuming Paul doesn't become President, the people "in charge" will have to know that we are all fired up and organizing on the internet for the long haul to make sure the Constitutional candidate in 4 years does win.. I fear they will try to take the internet away, somehow, and then it will be back to hitting the streets, which isn't bad, but you get my point...

Yes, this is a very real possibility. Hillary is probably going to be our next President, and she's expressed concern about some of the viewpoints expressed on the net. Being a true statist, her solution will be to impose regulations and restrictions in order to protect us from "hate speech" and other "extremism".

In a battle between two centrists, Hillary beats McCain because most Democrats will vote for anyone with (D) after their name. They value party more than principle. Conservative Republicans, otoh, will abstain or vote third party rather than vote for someone who has betrayed their principles the way McCain often has. In any case, McCain-Feingold already tells us what McCain thinks about free speech, so if he were somehow to get elected President, it's easy to predict that he would want to regulate the Internet too.

 

[roshi]

Is there a possibility of the internet being "down"? Yes:

1. Shut down root name servers (not really bringing down the internet, but it will cause huge headaches).

The root name servers are used to translate domains to IP addresses. If the root name servers are taken down, all .com, .net, .org, etc will be down. But you can still connect to websites via IP addresses (which most people do not know how to do).

I also want to comment on the part where people are afraid of filters. You can simply bypass these by using SSL, so that nobody but the other site and yourself can see whatever you see as it is encrypted and would take months to decrypt it entirely and accurately. Proxies are also a great idea to bypass filters.

 

[LynnB]

I would suggest that people who are unaware of the internet situation, ie. h.r. 1955, are also unaware of several other issues/crises facing the American people. You need to keep an eye on sites such as globalresearch.ca and judicialwatch.org, among others. The only reason why they have gotten away with so much is because we've been asleep with our eyes open, watching pre-packaged disinfo on Fox News, etc.

 

[Bubba]

We need to call Al Gore ASAP. He's got the manual!!!

 

[CorkyAgain]

Re fighting and reaching for your guns

It frightens and saddens me that so many of you sound so ready to use your guns in anger.

I watched the movie "Gandhi" again last night. There's a scene where Margaret Bourke-White asks Gandhi whether his non-violent strategy would be effective against someone like Hitler. Gandhi nodded sadly and admitted that there will be many defeats. But he added that history shows that there have been many tyrants in the world and every one of them fell eventually. Truth endures.

We cannot defeat the Enemy with weapons, because He outguns us a millionfold. We can defeat him by upholding the Good and by refusing to become Evil ourselves.

As long as there are people who recognize cruelty and tyranny for what it is, there is reason for hope. It might be only a tiny Remnant for a while, but that sense of decency is something to protect and nurture. I will do my part by trying to keep it alive in myself and in my children.
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