You guys the delegates in Alaska, Minnesota, Iowa, Maine and Nevada have not been decided and even if they had they don't have to vote for a certain candidate. None of the national delegates have been decided yet and the people who said they'd vote for Romney don't have to. Yes, in North Dakota and Montana those delegates are pledged. Romney took 25 in Montana and in North Dakota he got 10, McCain got 6, Paul got 5 and Huckabee got 5. But in the other states the delegates have not been chosen and won't be until their state conventions in March, April, May and June. The Romney delegates might not show up or vote for someone else entirely (knowing our luck they'd all vote for McCain), but the point is this is the only way Paul has a shot at winning.
Does anyone else realize we just won Nevada?
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Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice
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with Romney in suspended animation, the only delegates he will keep are those bound by law.
No caucus will vote a Romney delegate in. This strongly favors us.
No caucus will vote a Romney delegate in. This strongly favors us.
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owned?
What facts? Any questions about the delegate process check out www.thegreenpapers.com or go to each state's respective republican party website. It's all there.
What makes you think there is a McMitt deal? Even if there were, all Romney supporters wouldn't jump on that bandwagon I don't think. But you may be right and this race is already over. Hell, the Seattle Times just gave the GOP nod to McCain. Its on their main page. They didn't even mention Ron Paul in there article so things still aren't that great.
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I think some people don't understand. In most states, including caucus states, only state delegates have been decided and in a lot of them, they were unbound to begin with. No one can dictate who these people vote for, they get to decide. There has only been a single caucus state that has elected national delegates and that is Montana which are bound to Romney.
Um, yes they are...
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Those are committed delegates....that means whoever Romney endorses....will go for McStain...assuming he endorses McStain!
Incorrect.
First it is highly unlikely that Romney would endorse McCain, who was virtually called everything but a liberal by Romney.
Second, even in the wildest possibility that if he did endorse McCain that would not force committed delegates to John McFonda. They would remain pledged, or go uncommitted. Ultimately, they would have to vote for the majority representative of the state.
BTW: am I missing some point of the image you keep posting on all your threads? Personally, I think it's rather disturbing.
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Wow, people around here really have no fucking clue how the process works...
NOT ONLY are most Illinois delegates bound FOREVER to McCain at this point, they have already been chosen as well. Talk about being completely wrong.
Why don't you prove your own idiocy? Where are you getting this nonsense that the primaries were meaningless? I really want to fucking know where this misinformation started so instead of me having to correct people everywhere, I can correct it at one central place once and for all.
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The arguments on this thread are exactly why I am building this site: http://newr3volution.com/
We need a place to have it all spelled out so we know wtf we are doing. Anyone with expertise in the process of any particular stae, please sign up and help me out.
We need a place to have it all spelled out so we know wtf we are doing. Anyone with expertise in the process of any particular stae, please sign up and help me out.
I'm not sure that's true. Nobody has formally asked me if I'm a Ron Paul supporting delegate. I won in my precinct, for county, district and state (or 12.5% county, 50% district and 50% state), but Paul only got 4.4% of the straw poll vote in my precinct. The campaign doesn't seem to have a good way to track this.
Well thanks for being civil, but here's why your wrong.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/IL-R.phtml
57 of Illinois' 70 delegates to the Republican National Convention will be directly elected in the Illinois Presidential Primary: this is a so-called "Loophole" primary (a Delegate Selection Primary combined with an Advisory "beauty contest" presidential preference vote); thus, the popular vote in the Illinois Republican Primary will have nothing whatsoever to do with the actual presidential preference of the 57 separately elected National Convention delegates (each of the State's 19 congressional districts is assigned 2 to 4 National Convention delegates- the number of delegates assigned to each district being based on the relative strength of that district's vote for the Republican presidential nominee in the general election).
You may be right, however, about the delegates already chosen. I don't know when they were or will be chosen.
And please get some manners that was very rude.
I live in Iowa and I have been contataced by the Ron Paul campaign to see if I was a delegate. They seem to have a pretty good understanding, at least here, as to who their delegates are.
Furthermore, in the primaries, most of those delegates are bound, unlike most caucuses. However, the primaries don't selet the actual delegates. So in the first round of voting at the national convention a Ron Paul delegate might have to vote for John McCain if he's from Florida, but if John McCain doesn't reach the thresehold he will certainly vote for Ron Paul the next time. That's why even in the McCain states we still need to rack of the delegates. Contrary to what the Ron Paul campaign says they have no officially pledged delegates. (Except in West Virginia) But they are certain that they will get the minimum delegates that they stated when the state conventions roll around. That's why they gave a minimum, they think it will actually be much higher, but they can't know for sure yet.
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