Do you want Jesse Benton involved in any capacity in Rand Paul 2016?

[Rocco]

I have seen some talk on this recently, so I wanted to take the pulse of the Rand subforum. Do we want Jesse involved, even if in a smaller capacity than campaign chairman?

 

[radiofriendly]

Don't you suppose that if they hire him, despite all the hand wringing here, there must be some reason? Maybe every political campaign needs a 'bad guy' to take all the heat. And if Jesse keeps Kokesh away, maybe it's for the best?

 

[thoughtomator]

Does "walking talking example of what NOT to do" count as a role?

 

[fr33]

No he's a bumbling fool.

If I wanted to save money on donating to political campaigns, I'd vote yes because a campaign with Benton involved won't get anything from me.

 

[fr33]

Don't you suppose that if they hire him, despite all the hand wringing here, there must be some reason? Maybe every political campaign needs a 'bad guy' to take all the heat. And if Jesse keeps Kokesh away, maybe it's for the best?

We only "need a bad guy to take all the heat" if the campaign doesn't think it can win. See Ron Paul 2008 & 2012. A successful campaign doesn't thrive upon conspiracy theories within itself.

 

[jtstellar]

Don't you suppose that if they hire him, despite all the hand wringing here, there must be some reason? Maybe every political campaign needs a 'bad guy' to take all the heat. And if Jesse keeps Kokesh away, maybe it's for the best?

i was about to say "not really, but if they do hire him i'm sure there's a good reason/agenda" so i guess you said it first

 

[fr33]

Considering Rand's strategy so far, I hope for a campaign in which most people don't know who the campaign manager is and one which the campaign manager doesn't do interviews. Seems to be a winning strategy.

 

[anaconda]

Wasn't Jesse Benton the campaign manager for Rand Paul's 2010 Senate campaign? 23.4% margin primary win and 11.4% margin general election win. Maybe this is relevant.

 

[eric4186]

where's the option for 'hell no'?

 

[CPUd]

He is probably going to be involved in some way. But what will really start the QQ around here is when he makes Trygve Olson a senior advisor.

 

[Matt Collins]

Why does this matter? No one here has any input on this subject.


And yall should be grateful for Jesse because he was the driving force to get Ron to run in 2012. I doubt he would've if Jesse hadn't had pushed him to.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Public poll? Lame.

 

[specsaregood]

There is no way he isn't going to be involved in some role. But I think Rand is aware enough to not put him in a position to unnecessarily piss off the grassroots. He is gonna have a tough enough time with those cats.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Wasn't Jesse Benton the campaign manager for Rand Paul's 2010 Senate campaign? 23.4% margin primary win and 11.4% margin general election win. Maybe this is relevant.

David Adams was the Campaign Manager for the primary. Benton came on in May 2010 after the Maddow media feeding frenzy. What role exactly he had, it's hard to know. His title was that of Campaign Manager, but Politico had a story at the time saying the NRSC took over running the campaign because they didn't want anymore amateur mistakes.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Why does this matter? No one here has any input on this subject.


And yall should be grateful for Jesse because he was the driving force to get Ron to run in 2012. I doubt he would've if Jesse hadn't had pushed him to.

Jessie pushed for Ron to create another cash flow machine for the Paul Inc team in running in 2012, or to at best run to further build the liberty movement, instead of pushing him to run to WIN. It matters because twice bitten, a lot of grassroots people have already sworn they WILL NOT WORK for the kind of run-to-lose campaign Benton signifies, that's just a fact. They may not have a say in the matter, but they don't have to knowingly involve themselves in a campaign that is, yet again, monkey-wrenched to fail from the start.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

If McConnell somehow loses, and it's extremely rare for a Senate party leader to lose reelection, doesn't that say something about Benton?

 

[phill4paul]

No. The Sorenson scandal should be enough to give pause.........

Fusaro: I understand that Ron Paul came out and said that nobody gave you… The lying that’s going on is just incredible. It’s one thing to be smart politically and tough, but now you have Ron Paul out there lying.

Sorenson: You think he knows?

Fusaro: No, actually, I think he doesn’t.

Sorenson: You think they purposefully kept it from him?

Fusaro: Oh sure, it’s like Rothfeld said, they have to run their campaign. He has to run his.

[Michael Rothfield is on the Board of Directors of the National Association for Gun Rights and also the sole director of Saber Communications. Opensecrets.org reported that both Rand Paul and Ron Paul’s 2012 presidential campaign are clients. The firm received $7.7 million for Paul’s 2012 campaign.]

Sorenson: Who do you think knows?

Fusaro: All these guys are corrupt. Who do I think knows? Everyone you told. Everyone Dimitri told. And Dimitri.

Sorenson: Do you think the whole Ron Paul, like all of them know? I mean the inside group?

Fusaro: Sure, I’m sure Jesse Benton knows, he’s a scum…

Sorenson: Oh, I know that Jesse knows. I know Jesse knows.

Fusaro: He’s a scumbag.

http://theiowarepublican.com/2013/i...on-confirms-payment-for-ron-paul-endorsement/

 

[fisharmor]

The thing Jesse Benton signifies more than anything, I think, is that being related to Ron Paul doesn't make you philosophically compatible with Ron Paul.

When I think back on it, it has always been Ron saying that he and Rand are practically political twins, and it was always Rand saying that they differ.

So I can totally see Rand using Benton, to build bridges with the rest of the R team. As if to say "See, I'm so not like my dad that I hired this guy who worked for McConnell, of all people".

Politically, it would be a wise move.
Yes, it will also piss off the grassroots. But as we've been told ad nauseum, we're a lot less important than the god-and-country Republican base.
And it will give us further doubts about the whole sleeper agent theory.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

The thing Jesse Benton signifies more than anything, I think, is that being related to Ron Paul doesn't make you philosophically compatible with Ron Paul.

When I think back on it, it has always been Ron saying that he and Rand are practically political twins, and it was always Rand saying that they differ.

So I can totally see Rand using Benton, to build bridges with the rest of the R team. As if to say "See, I'm so not like my dad that I hired this guy who worked for McConnell, of all people".

Politically, it would be a wise move.
Yes, it will also piss off the grassroots. But as we've been told ad nauseum, we're a lot less important than the god-and-country Republican base.
And it will give us further doubts about the whole sleeper agent theory.

Let me see if I got this:

Hiring Benton, who worked for Ron Paul's presidential campaigns in 2008 and 2012, would further show that Rand Paul is not enough like his father for your satisfaction?

 

[mosquitobite]

No. The Sorenson scandal should be enough to give pause.........



http://theiowarepublican.com/2013/i...on-confirms-payment-for-ron-paul-endorsement/

This.

We don't need that kind of scandal attached to Rand. PUHLEEEZE!!!