Do You Think Libertarians Are More Welcomed In Democratic Party?

[tod evans]

They understand libertarian concepts for a minute but slide back into the old us versus them toxic dichotomy as soon as FOX comes back on.

Do yourself a favor and "Just say no" to MSM for 90 days...

Unplug or whatever it takes from TV, listen to albums instead of radio..

See how you feel.

 

[KrokHead]

what do you think? abscond from the Republican party and get into the Democratic party?

... No way! Democrats consider Libertarians the extreme underground Republican movement. Usually they get lumped in as Tea-Partiers. I remember New York magazine describian Paul Ryan as "Ayn Randian".

Never will happen.

 

[MisfitToy]

I haven't met any Democrats upset about any of that. They may give some lip service or say they are a little disappointed, but as soon as they can, they take back to trashing Republicans. I swear the only issue that I ever hear Democrats talk about is taxing the "rich" and snatching guns.

I concur. If you point out anything that barry does wrong, they come right back with what bush jr did to justify it or they just become silent about the issue and then point out something that bush jr did anyway. In a way it's a political gridlock. I've met Republicans who hated dubbya but I have yet to meet a Democrat who disagrees with barry.

 

[speciallyblend]

No, for effect, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvwzPADqtxU<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvwzPADqtxU">

 

[The Northbreather]

Do yourself a favor and "Just say no" to MSM for 90 days...

Unplug or whatever it takes from TV, listen to albums instead of radio..

See how you feel.

Are you saying I should try this or that this is what you want me to say to people?

I haven't had television for years now, I have television sets that I use as monitors for computers.

I went to school for media an am pretty well versed.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

... No way! Democrats consider Libertarians the extreme underground Republican movement. Usually they get lumped in as Tea-Partiers. I remember New York magazine describian Paul Ryan as "Ayn Randian".

Never will happen.

Meh. Depends on who you ask. I knew a dem who was a RP fan in '08. Naomi Wolf has in recent years warmed up to Lew Rockwell and libertarianism. You can't make these sort of broad generalizations except WRT to the party apparatchiki.

 

[GopBlackList]

Not really. Abortion is kind of an up for debate issue, but there are a LOT of libertarians who agree with Ron Paul on the issue and are pro-life. Gay marriage is also tricky because the libertarian view is complete separation of marriage and state, and until we get there, what exactly to do RIGHT NOW is tricky. Civil unions are kind of a no-brainer to me, even though I personally don't agree with their lifestyle, but gay marriage is trickier. Justin Raimondo is a libertarian homosexual who's against it. I don't personally think the government should be redefining terms like this, and I'm not the only libertarian who thinks this.

Drugs, prostitution, those types of freedom issues... Dems are generally against them. They're generally fails on the Patriot Act or TSA and stuff. They're generally against gun rights.



Yeah, basically.


I agree with you on the other stuff, but you can't just casually throw abortion in there. Some of us really do believe abortion is murder and therefore a violation of the NAP. Ron Paul agrees with us. That one isn't even settled among libertarians, even though the LP stupidly pretends like it is.


Obama may well have been better than any of the Republicans except for Ron Paul and Gary Johnson (Both of whom were MILLIONS of times better than Obama, and Ron Paul was in turn a million times better than Gary Johnson) if only because his foreign policy was less jingoistic, but he's still terrible.

As a TACTICAL matter, however, Republican rhetoric is more inclined towards limited government, so its easier to use genuine libertarian rhetoric in that party. What the GOP SAYS is closer to that, even though what they DO is not.


Democrats aren't always high on civil liberties and anti-war positions either. It all depends.


More importantly, just don't vote for bad GOP candidates, whatever party you're in.

Abortions are going to be irrelevant as soon as advances in birth control become available. The real quesiton is when does life begins and that varies from person to person. I personally don't believe life begins at conception.

A lot of libertarians are opposed to legal abortion.

if you're talking about the right leaning kind yes, but the more moderate or left libertarian believe it is a woman's choice and do not define life at conception.

... No way! Democrats consider Libertarians the extreme underground Republican movement. Usually they get lumped in as Tea-Partiers. I remember New York magazine describian Paul Ryan as "Ayn Randian".

Never will happen.

Paul Ryan a libertarian? lol. gimme a break.

Meh. Depends on who you ask. I knew a dem who was a RP fan in '08. Naomi Wolf has in recent years warmed up to Lew Rockwell and libertarianism. You can't make these sort of broad generalizations except WRT to the party apparatchiki.

Camile Pagilia as well