Do you take Vitamins?

Do you take Vitamins?


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Well, if I had my druthers I would take "natural" medicine over synthetic pharmaceuticals any day of the week. I believe most of the ailments many have today are caused by the chemicals/synthetics in our food and water and the depletion of minerals our body needs. Not to mention the vaccines and mercury amalgam (in our teeth) we have been lead to believe are safe. I also believe by being put on the right track, the body, given proper nutrients and treatments, can heal itself.

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I had my fillings removed many years ago now at this point. I thought I had it all figured out. I was soo smart. I'd just get my fillings out, do some detox and I'd show all of these dummies how it was done. Well I was wrong. I got my fillings out and while I have no regrets about doing it, it wasn't a miracle cure. I have done detoxing with DMSA and now DMPS, which have been helpful, but have not cured me.

Were you tested to have H pylori or did he just sell you the supplements? I am very weary of these natural doctors who sell supplements. They are no better than the regular doctors who push rx drugs. I have done a lot of research on h pylori because I thought I might have had it, but it was just a leap of faith on my part. It would take a few months to get rid of H pylori naturally from everything I read. You have to follow up with a breath test to really know if you killed it. My husband just got tested for H pylori, so if his comes back positive, then we know we both have it and we should treat at the same time.

All of the electrolyte stuff is bull when it comes to POTS. Lots of theories out there that don't help any one. It's not like you drink some coconut water and you are cured. lol. If it did, then no one would have POTS anymore. I'm not knocking on the girl whose blog you posted, but she lives in a wheelchair. :( That's not even close to being cured or anything of the sort. I still walk on my own and no one looking at me would even know I have a problem. I don't tell anyone I'm sick unless asked.

It's also important to note the type of POTS I have is not the low blood volume/hypovolemia type. I have high norepinephrine levels which points to the hyperadrenergic form. Complete opposite treatments usually work for this type.

I have tried the exercise routine and I cannot do it because I get overheated too quickly. It's funny though because I use the bike and my HR will be 125. Then I stand up to get off the bike and my HR goes up to 160. lol The study you posted was highly controversial in the POTS community because the researcher cherry picked his subjects. He only picked those who were clearly deconditioned, had not failed any autonomic tests and had smaller than average hearts. His study would include only a tiny percentage of POTS patients and many have tried his routine and got no where. Some have tried and have felt better, but they have to continue doing it or they get sick again. I think a larger study was supposed to be released at some point, but I haven't seen anything yet.

I have had organic acid/amino acid testing done that shows I do not have candida or any other gut related issues. I don't know if it's reliable though.

Thanks for looking into stuff, but sadly it is all things I have tried or ruled out years ago through my own guinea pig testing. :p Just the other day I tried taking serrapeptase to see if it would help my nasal congestion and I ended up breaking out in hives and was having trouble breathing! Fun!. Can't take the stuff now at all or I'll probably end up in the hospital. Waaay too scary.
 
I had my fillings removed many years ago now at this point. I thought I had it all figured out. I was soo smart. I'd just get my fillings out, do some detox and I'd show all of these dummies how it was done. Well I was wrong. I got my fillings out and while I have no regrets about doing it, it wasn't a miracle cure. I have done detoxing with DMSA and now DMPS, which have been helpful, but have not cured me.

Have you had many vaccines in your life? That could also be a contributing factor as well.

Were you tested to have H pylori or did he just sell you the supplements? I am very weary of these natural doctors who sell supplements. They are no better than the regular doctors who push rx drugs. I have done a lot of research on h pylori because I thought I might have had it, but it was just a leap of faith on my part. It would take a few months to get rid of H pylori naturally from everything I read. You have to follow up with a breath test to really know if you killed it. My husband just got tested for H pylori, so if his comes back positive, then we know we both have it and we should treat at the same time.

Now let's back up, I went to the Naturopath, as stated earlier because I had gone through a battery of test to have doctors tell me it was "just in my head" and that I ought to try psychotropic drugs for my anxiety. I had pressure, real pressure, like someone sitting on my chest pressure. I couldn't catch my breath and figured I may be having a heart attack--but the battery of tests in the hospital showed no signs of heart problems. Nevertheless, their diagnosis was it was all in my head--and that anxiety, in of itself, can bring on these symptoms.

Again not happy with their diagnosis, and still feeling like someone was sitting on my chest, I called the Naturopath (as a last resort for answers). In the consultation he asked me all kinds of questions, where the pressure was--etc... Upon talking to him, while he dictated our conversation, he came to the conclusion that I might be suffering from a hiatal hernia. He told me that he could adjust it right there in his office. He did, and within 5 minutes the pressure on my chest ceased--just like that. He showed me how I can make these adjustments when I felt this pressure again. He also said, I maybe suffering from H-pylori because people that suffer with hiatal hernias usually suffer from Helicobacter pylori. He then said, let's try using a good herbal remedy for that with a bland diet for two weeks, then if any symptoms persists we will do tests to determine if you have it. Within that two week span, I started to feel great so he told me to continue taking the RF Plus, with probiotics until the RF Plus is gone.

One of the things he wanted to impress upon me was, that if your gut is not right, neither are you. So many gut related things cause chronic illness. If your gut is not in good health, usually the patient isn't in good health, and will have symptoms that will mask or morph other symptoms of chronic illness. Let's face it, when you go to an MD ask him or her how many years they studied nutrition. I have done that, and I always got the "deer in the headlight" look or I get a very defensive response. Most doctors have zero knowledge about diet and nutrition so, therefore, they never use that approach that it could be things that you are eating that are causing this ill health effect. Not to mention, they push those pharmaceuticals on people without much research on them themselves. Most of the time, they go by what the Big Pharma representative tells them.

As you can see, I don't have much trust in the medical community. I am sure, there are good doctors out there, but they are few and far between. To me, they are glorified drug pushers. Very rarely do they look at individuals as individuals, they look at people as a cash cow or work within a network of favors to get their cash. The more chronic a person is, the more dollar signs they see, as a long term patient.

Even the Hippocratic oath has been changed.

Hippocratic Oath [Original Version]

I swear by Apollo the physician, and Asclepius, and Hygieia and Panacea and all the gods and goddesses as my witnesses, that, according to my ability and judgement, I will keep this Oath and this contract:

To hold him who taught me this art equally dear to me as my parents, to be a partner in life with him, and to fulfill his needs when required; to look upon his offspring as equals to my own siblings, and to teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or contract; and that by the set rules, lectures, and every other mode of instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the art to my own sons, and those of my teachers, and to students bound by this contract and having sworn this Oath to the law of medicine, but to no others.

I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgement, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.

In purity and according to divine law will I carry out my life and my art.

I will not use the knife, even upon those suffering from stones, but I will leave this to those who are trained in this craft.

Into whatever homes I go, I will enter them for the benefit of the sick, avoiding any voluntary act of impropriety or corruption, including the seduction of women or men, whether they are free men or slaves.

Whatever I see or hear in the lives of my patients, whether in connection with my professional practice or not, which ought not to be spoken of outside, I will keep secret, as considering all such things to be private.

So long as I maintain this Oath faithfully and without corruption, may it be granted to me to partake of life fully and the practice of my art, gaining the respect of all men for all time. However, should I transgress this Oath and violate it, may the opposite be my fate.

Translated by Michael North, National Library of Medicine, 2002.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/greek/greek_oath.html

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Hippocratic Oath: Modern Version

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

—Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/hippocratic-oath-today.html
 
I understand where you are coming from. You have been helped by natural medicine, so you think natural medicine is amazing and has the same ability to help others as it did to you. If I had your same experiences, then I would be quite excited about it too and wanting to tell everyone I could to look into specific treatments, vitamins, supplements etc. However, I have been using a mixture of natural medicine and conventional medicine (mostly their testing, so I can then research other things) and I am not cured or really much better at all. I have had testing that showed I have no gut dysbiosis, yeast or any bacterial overgrowth in my gut. I don't have symptoms of them, so part of me wasn't really shocked by this.

H Pylori doesn't cause symptoms in the majority of people, so you can't just go by how you feel. (Check out this lady's blog) It's one of those things you really have to get tested with a breath test after treatment to make sure it is completely gone. It is also contagious, so if you are married or have children, they also get it as well. If only 1 of you gets treated, then eventually your spouse or children will pass it back to you and you will become infected with it again. That's why it is hard to get rid of.

If you are bored and you want to read through my health blog to see what I've been through over the years trying different natural "cures", then I think you would get a better understanding of me and why I feel the way I do about both conventional and natural medicine. Neither of them have a clue about things and a lot of it are just theories that sound good on paper, but then don't actually do what they suggest when applied or they cause a lot more issues than what is usually warned against.

If it were not for some conventional medicine, I would not be alive today. I have to take hydrocortisone on a daily basis or I'd be dead because I have Addison's disease.

For years doctors said I was high strung and it was all in my head, but finally I found conventional doctors who listened at least a little bit. It was conventional doctors who figured out what was going on with my heart rate (after some nudging on my part), but now I just know why I can't go out in the heat. Now I know why I can't do laundry, fold clothes or vacuum the floor without feeling like I'm going to collapse. It was my local hospital and also Cleveland Clinic that tested me and not a natural doctor. I'm not an easy case where I take vitamin C, D, B12 or some yeast "killer" and I'm cured. I challenge everything natural doctors believe in (because it doesn't work for me), so they don't even want to see me as a patient.
 
If I know that I'm not eating enough fruit and veg, I'll take a vitamin B. If I know I'm not going to get any sun exposure, I'll take a vitamin D. And if I'm not feeling 100%, I'll take a vitamin C.

I don't know if this is scientifically possible, but I feel like I'm able to pinpoint almost exactly what my body is lacking at any given time.
 
Have to say I'm surprised to see that so many people here take vitamins (read believe in their efficacy), I was expecting majority to be vitamin skeptics.
 
Have to say I'm surprised to see that so many people here take vitamins (read believe in their efficacy), I was expecting majority to be vitamin skeptics.
Most around here like to do our own research and not blindly believe what the FDA and other establishment "health" agencies tell us in my experience. :cool:
 
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