Do you support abolishing the military?

Should the Federal Military be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 51 45.1%
  • No

    Votes: 48 42.5%
  • Just the Army

    Votes: 14 12.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Islam is a religion of peace, and if you disagree, or remark on the tendency of the Great prophet to be a child rapist, someone will be along soon to behead you.
We have at least one muslim member of these forums (expatpaki) who strongly agrees with RP about the importance of peace and non-aggression, d00d. Stupid stereotypes are stoopid.
 
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FreedomFagnatic keeps negging me for assburger comments.

Listen, I'm happy to have brilliant people such as Aspergers supporting the cause, but they should know that their black-and-white personality is often a source for derision from the regular public. FFS you often can't even tell what sacasm is. Recognize your limitations and stfu!
 
I have Assburgers as well. I enjoyed the South Park Episode making fun of it and consider it normal for family members to tease me about being Autistic.

Someone needs to loosen up.
 
We have at least one muslim member of these forums (expatpaki) who strongly agrees with RP about the importance of peace and non-aggression, d00d. Stupid stereotypes are stoopid.

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. 10-15% are radicalized. That's a large number. It is a pretty bad idea to unilaterally disarm.

And this topic reminded me of this Rand Paul ad.
 
I don't go for the "religion of peace" line, but I do recognize that most of those attacks are motivated by blowback. That doesn't justify them, but it does put things into perspective.
 
FreedomFagnatic keeps negging me for assburger comments.

Listen, I'm happy to have brilliant people such as Aspergers supporting the cause, but they should know that their black-and-white personality is often a source for derision from the regular public. FFS you often can't even tell what sacasm is. Recognize your limitations and stfu!

Not sure why you added an S to the end of my abbreviation, but yes, I often can't tell what sarcasm is, and I have a black and white personality. I can own up to that. That doesn't justify mockery.
 
There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. 10-15% are radicalized. That's a large number. It is a pretty bad idea to unilaterally disarm.

And this topic reminded me of this Rand Paul ad.

:rolleyes: Disbanding standing militaries is not "disarming". You kids and your tortured logic. :P
 
In my opinion we should keep enough military power to deter attack by foreign powers, but drastically reduce or eliminate military capabilities that could be used for foreign occupations or domestic counter-insurgency. It's pretty easy to draw a distinction between these kinds of military assets.

America's nuclear deterrent is sufficient to prevent attack by foreign powers such as Russia or China. We can keep the ICBMs, the jets, and the nuclear-armed submarines. These weapons pose little threat to a domestic insurgency but certainly deter any foreign aggression that could pose a significant threat.

The same cannot be said for standing ground forces. The Army and Marines once served a purpose, but today they are irrelevant to US national defense. They serve no purpose other than to invade foreign countries and threaten freedom at home, all for the benefit of "defense" manufacturer profits.

We should also get rid of all police except elected sheriffs and their deputies, and there should be strict citizen oversight of law enforcement. And this is to say nothing of the laws themselves, many of which are morally repugnant.
 
In my opinion we should keep enough military power to deter attack by foreign powers, but drastically reduce or eliminate military capabilities that could be used for foreign occupations or domestic counter-insurgency. It's pretty easy to draw a distinction between these kinds of military assets.

America's nuclear deterrent is sufficient to prevent attack by foreign powers such as Russia or China. We can keep the ICBMs, the jets, and the nuclear-armed submarines. These weapons pose little threat to a domestic insurgency but certainly deter any foreign aggression that could pose a significant threat.

The same cannot be said for standing ground forces. The Army and Marines once served a purpose, but today they are irrelevant to US national defense. They serve no purpose other than to invade foreign countries and threaten freedom at home, all for the benefit of "defense" manufacturer profits.

We should also get rid of all police except elected sheriffs and their deputies, and there should be strict citizen oversight of law enforcement. And this is to say nothing of the laws themselves, many of which are morally repugnant.

I like Ron's way. Bring them home and build more bases here. Which is essentially what you are saying if I understand correctly.
 
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Not sure why you added an S to the end of my abbreviation, but yes, I often can't tell what sarcasm is, and I have a black and white personality. I can own up to that. That doesn't justify mockery.
"FFS" means "For Fuck's Sake". Now you know. :)
 
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In my opinion we should keep enough military power to deter attack by foreign powers, but drastically reduce or eliminate military capabilities that could be used for foreign occupations or domestic counter-insurgency. It's pretty easy to draw a distinction between these kinds of military assets.

America's nuclear deterrent is sufficient to prevent attack by foreign powers such as Russia or China. We can keep the ICBMs, the jets, and the nuclear-armed submarines. These weapons pose little threat to a domestic insurgency but certainly deter any foreign aggression that could pose a significant threat.

The same cannot be said for standing ground forces. The Army and Marines once served a purpose, but today they are irrelevant to US national defense. They serve no purpose other than to invade foreign countries and threaten freedom at home, all for the benefit of "defense" manufacturer profits.

We should also get rid of all police except elected sheriffs and their deputies, and there should be strict citizen oversight of law enforcement. And this is to say nothing of the laws themselves, many of which are morally repugnant.

"There is no good nor evil, but thinking makes it so."

It is all in the application, isn't it, I could have the highest quality paint but if I don't go about applying it the right way it will look like shit.
 
One of the debates he had said to just bring them home and specifically followed it with "Heck, I'd probably build more bases here at home then".
hmmm...I do recall him talking about bringing the troops home, but not building more bases domestically. Got toobz?
 
hmmm...I do recall him talking about bringing the troops home, but not building more bases domestically. Got toobz?

Nope. Good luck finding it if you do look though. What struck me by it was the tone in which he said it. He was very frank. Kind of like matter of fact..ish.

It'll probably come to me if I think about it a bit who he said it to.
 
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