Do you believe growing police state at home is directly linked to foreign interventions?

Do you believe growing police state at home is directly linked to foreign interventions?


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No. The Police State was already in the making way before Oklahoma City Bombing.
 
Partly.

They have over extended the currency, exporting it as much as possible while trying to maintain some value at home, but it's coming closer to the end of it. Foreign policy is a fairly large factor in the debt machine, and the stealing of wealth at home.

They can see the unrest, the "waking up" of some of the population to what has transpired, and are afraid.
 
i agree with Donnay on this one. The police State has been around for many decades. Its getting worse though.
 
No. The Police State was already in the making way before Oklahoma City Bombing.

Yes. It goes back to JFK if a significant point is sought. The next before that is operation paperclip, 1949. Before that, the NWO formation in Tehran in 1943.

The recent form of taking started with the savings and loan disaster, BCCI, in the 1980's.

Partly.

They have over extended the currency, exporting it as much as possible while trying to maintain some value at home, but it's coming closer to the end of it. Foreign policy is a fairly large factor in the debt machine, and the stealing of wealth at home.

The WTO is a primary tool for usurpation of all governmental policy including our own. With the IMF as repository for the taking.

They can see the unrest, the "waking up" of some of the population to what has transpired, and are afraid.

The "waking up" is being tended by factions and icons. We had OWS a few years back, the "American Spring" last year. Now we have Chuck Norris leading the charge on "Jade Helm".

Afraid? No, perhaps worried, but as long as gunnys and ronins , AF's and osans can ping pong nonsense around keeping y'all from focusing on unity, not afraid.
 
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Afraid? No, perhaps worried, but as long as gunnys and ronins , AF's and osans can ping pong nonsense around keeping y'all from focusing on unity, not a afraid.

I already told you, one or more of those and many others on this forum are likely Masons. Maybe you too. Nothing wrong with Masons. Are you a mason? You know there's far more Masons in the US than there are Ron Paul Republicans.
 
No,two separate problems.One could end tomorrow,in my dreams,and we would still have to deal with the other.
 
I already told you, one or more of those and many others on this forum are likely Masons. Maybe you too. Nothing wrong with Masons. Are you a mason? You know there's far more Masons in the US than there are Ron Paul Republicans.

Not a Mason. Some are okay. There are not as many as there was, say 50 years ago, but some control networks, both good and bad.
Most are obvious which are online, the rest are not online and chiefs of police, judges or politicians.

Some in the networks they control organize covert infiltrations without even knowing they've been directed to do so.

I just know major inconsistencies in position defining intent needs explaining. Covert cooperation to provide sensational distraction that sounds edgy or of rebellion keeps threads looking real, but experience detects a scripted dialog with roles.

The failures to apply reason in pursuit of claimed goals is a glaring inconsistency. Claiming to be against corrupt government and failing to recognize ways to stop if only lasts for so long, then it is all clearly false pretense.
 
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Not a Mason. Some are okay. There are not as many as there was, but some control networks, both good and bad.
Most are obvious which are online, the rest are not online and chiefs of police, judges or politicians.

Some in the networks organize covert infiltrations without even knowing they've been directed to do so.

I just know major inconsistencies in position defining intent needs explaining. Covert cooperation to provide sensational distraction that sounds edgy or of rebellion keeps threads looking real, but experience detects a scripted dialog with roles.

The failures to apply reason in pursuit of claimed goals is a glaring inconsistency. Claiming to be against corrupt government and failing to recognize ways to stop if only lasts for so long, then it is all clearly false pretense.

But do you know their mission? Once you know their mission, you know all you need to know. Their mission has never changed. Their mission never will change.

They have no political agenda. Most known conspiracy theories are a cover.

Why do you think that even though there are Masonic temples in nearly every country nearly 60% of all Masons are based in the U.S.????

Hmmmm.
 
I put no, because they are not directly linked.

However, the fact that we've been "at war" for over a decade has militarized our culture to a certain extent. Add in the quantity of police who were active military or are reserve/guard, and it's all going to trickle down.
 
But do you know their mission? Once you know their mission, you know all you need to know. Their mission has never changed. Their mission never will change.

They have no political agenda. Most known conspiracy theories are a cover.

Why do you think that even though there are Masonic temples in nearly every country nearly 60% of all Masons are based in the U.S.????

Hmmmm.

Clearly you've not looked into the ancient principles and controversies that comprise modern Masonry. I know of them from the Indigenous Americans that investigated them thoroughly over 150 years ago. The best of them accept what I know without objection.

Speak to the skull and bones about conspiracies, but they won't answer except for lies.

You left out the renegade lodges of Mexico that are behind the cartels. But they get cooperation from the darker factions here, almost if hatched for that purpose. Only A. Jones could have traversed the Bohemian grove with a video camera while "not in our name" refused to let me speak at the park of Monte Rio in 2006 while busy marching.
 
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Is it a coincidence that after the war on drugs began in the late 60s/early 70s they started covert ops in South America and the CIA began helping run drugs to help fund various opposition groups down there?

Dept. of Homeland Security after 9/11?

I voted YES
 
Clearly you've not looked into the ancient principles and controversies that comprise modern Masonry. I know of them from the Indigenous Americans that investigated them thoroughly over 150 years ago. The best of them accept what I know without objection.

Speak to the skull and bones about conspiracies, but they won't answer except for lies.

You left out the renegade lodges of Mexico that are behind the cartels. But they get cooperation from the darker factions here, almost if hatched for that purpose. Only A. Jones could have traversed the Bohemian grove with a video camera while "not in our name" refused to let me speak at the park of Monte Rio in 2006 while busy marching.

Soooooooooo, you don't know.

I figured as much.

"Modern masonry"? I already told you the Masons' mission has always been the same and will never change. It has been the same mission since it's founding.

Given that you've dodged the question and threw their name in with the likes of "Skull and Bones" and "Bohemian Grove" (I suppose Illuminati was next in line) can only mean you are a charlatan. A seeker you are not. For a seeker is always a beginner.

There is a conspiracy, there is a Matrix. But the Architect is not who anyone expects. The "lawful and peaceful revolution" happened many years ago. Forgotten, but soon people will be remember.

Anyway, I have to go. Apparently there's tornadoes running amok in my fair city.
 
No. The Police State was already in the making way before Oklahoma City Bombing.

So were the foreign interventions.

and yes,, they are linked.


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