Do right-wing Wars/Neoconservatives lobbies have a backup if Cruz faltered?

[enhanced_deficit]

He was already the "backup" candidate of last resort for wars lobbies/neocon wing of GOP... but if R.E. Cruz did not survive the so called #CruzSexScandal brewing on internets, is there another backup? Or they will need to go grazing to the Left field to support H.R. Cinton in such a scenario?





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Ted Cruz attacks Obama for not fully funding NSA spying during shutdown

Lindsey Graham to fundraise for Ted Cruz's presidential bid
Fri March 18, 2016
(CNN)In a sign of just how much the Republican presidential primary has turned the party on its head, Sen. Lindsey Graham will headline a fundraiser on Monday in support of Ted Cruz.
Graham told CNN that while the Texas senator is not his preferred candidate, he's "the best alternative to Donald Trump," and he said he will "help Ted in every way I can."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/17/politi...ign/index.html


Who is Ted Cruz?

Says Iraq invasion was based on nobel reasons - check
Called for US led invasion of Syria - check
Supports sanctions against Iran - check
Supports tax payers funded war with Iran - check
Supports tax payers funded oppression/occupation abroad - check
Opposed even tiny cut in NSA spying funding during "shutdown"- check
Champions Christian Zionism/CUFI/John Hagee - check
Salutes Iraq war sniper who wished he had killed even more Iraqis - check
Says Canada makes better Maple Syrup than US - uncheck
Can be used as a partisan "attack dog" against SWC droneking - check

Ted Cruz is either a stealth,opportunistic agent of Neoconservative Establishment or
a brainswashed Christian Zionist lacking critical thinking abilities... or both.

 

[Warlord]

Romney

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Trump and Clinton.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Romney

That would explain Romney's efforts to insert himslf again in the 2016 race having taken a bad beating from Obama in 2012.

So in other words, right wing of neocons will be SOL if Cruz fell in time ahead.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump and Clinton.

Max Boot, Bill Kistol, DGP and various other neocon types have talked of supporting Clinton but have any neoconss pledged their support for Donald "Bush lied about Iraq WMDs" Trump?
I don't recall seeing such news so far.

 

[acptulsa]

Max Boot, Bill Kistol, DGP and various other neocon types have talked of supporting Clinton but have any neoconss pledged their support for Donald "Bush lied about Iraq WMDs" Trump?
I don't recall seeing such news so far.

Of course not. Then people would see behind the curtain, and would stop wasting their time trying to choose between two identical, interchangeable evils.

What he meant was they're counting on Trump to hand it to Clinton. Otherwise known as, so far they don't need a Plan B.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Max Boot, Bill Kistol, DGP and various other neocon types have talked of supporting Clinton but have any neoconss pledged their support for Donald "Bush lied about Iraq WMDs" Trump?
I don't recall seeing such news so far.

Many Neocons are paranoid and see threats when they don't actually exist. Even though Obama's foreign policy isn't radically different than what they want they still attack him.

 

[erowe1]

They will find that both Hillary and Trump will be more than willing enough to get us into wars.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Romney has always been the plan for a lot of people, but I suspect they didn't want this story to run until later, so they had more chance of getting a brokered convention so they could replace cruz.

 

[CPUd]

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Of course not. Then people would see behind the curtain, and would stop wasting their time trying to choose between two identical, interchangeable evils.

What he meant was they're counting on Trump to hand it to Clinton. Otherwise known as, so far they don't need a Plan B.

Many Neocons are paranoid and see threats when they don't actually exist. Even though Obama's foreign policy isn't radically different than what they want they still attack him.

That is quite credible.

Joy Karega

That does sound extreme. Targetting family gatherings/reunions, weddings etc is a war crime too; even DGP's masters have slowed down lately on droning families/kids.

 

[RandallFan]

They got a roughly 50% chance of beating Trump or usually any Republican each election and get a Clinton Rahm Emmanuel Democrat in office.

Neocons don't give a shit about open borders, affirmative action, incremental gun control or anything coming from SCOTUS.

 

[CPUd]

 

[enhanced_deficit]

They will find that both Hillary and Trump will be more than willing enough to get us into wars.

Could be, but it is amzazing that Hillary has been quite silent about her Iraq war support whereas Trump brings it up often.

GOP base's fascination with waterboarding is bit hard to grasp.

Some basers was even willing to recommend it for innocent SWC who has not been accused of killing any innocent children.

Sacramento GOP Web site encouraged people to ‘waterboard Obama’
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...b-site-encouraged-people-to-waterboard-obama/

Trump leads in California
Former Sacramento Rep. Doug Ose endorses Donald Trump
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article63211517.html

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Do right-wing Wars/Neoconservatives lobbies have a backup if Cruz faltered?

Well, true neoconservatives are left-wing, and only infiltrate the GOP to push for wars. They have no problems with big government and socialism. Now if you are talking about teocons like Cruz and pundits Mark Levin and Glenn Beck, they are running out of options. They would probably settle with a standard GOP neocon candidate as opposed to a teocon. Maybe Tom Cotton, Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio.

Max Boot, Bill Kistol, DGP and various other neocon types have talked of supporting Clinton but have any neoconss pledged their support for Donald "Bush lied about Iraq WMDs" Trump?
I don't recall seeing such news so far.

True neocons first choice is Hillary, so if Cruz falls out it just will force them to come out of the closet and publicly push Hillary more.

 

[William Tell]

Many Neocons are paranoid and see threats when they don't actually exist. Even though Obama's foreign policy isn't radically different than what they want they still attack him.

Exactly.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Well, true neoconservatives are left-wing, and only infiltrate the GOP to push for wars. They have no problems with big government and socialism. Now if you are talking about teocons like Cruz and pundits Mark Levin and Glenn Beck, they are running out of options. They would probably settle with a standard GOP neocon candidate as opposed to a teocon. Maybe Tom Cotton, Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio.



True neocons first choice is Hillary, so if Cruz falls out it just will force them to come out of the closet and publicly push Hillary more.

True that, ideological neocons have leftist/marxist backgrounds. This was a qualified question about "right wing" neocons slash war mongers. It doesn't need to be pointed out that Iraq invasion based on bogus claims was led by a "right wing" GOP regime with ample help from war mongers/neocons of all stripes.

The bi-partisan wars charade has not ceased a bit.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

True that, ideological neocons have leftist/marxist backgrounds. This was a qualified question about "right wing" neocons slash war mongers. It doesn't need to be pointed out that Iraq invasion based on bogus claims was led by a "right wing" GOP regime with ample help from war mongers/neocons of all stripes.

The bi-partisan wars charade has not ceased a bit.

Yep, McCain and Lindsey are the poster boys for RINO neoconservatives.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Yep, McCain and Lindsey are the poster boys for RINO neoconservatives.

Yep and both are supporting Cruz in desperation .. at least on surface even if deep down hoping for more reliable Hillary.

John McCain warms to Ted Cruz
Politico (blog)-Mar 24, 2016
John McCain has called Ted Cruz a "wacko bird," a liar and "crazy." He's even impishly suggested that the Texas senator's Canadian origins ...

You bet I'd trust Ted Cruz with foreign policy, says John McCain
Mar 25, 2016


Lindsey Graham to fundraise for Ted Cruz's presidential bid
Fri March 18, 2016

Mark Kirk of Illinois, Marco Rubio of Florida, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and John McCain of Arizona, in Libya.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Yep and both are supporting Cruz in desperation .. at least on surface even if deep down hoping for more reliable Hillary.

Not just hoping. Even in politics, life can get complicated. Hillary was always the Plan A, with Jeb and Marco as the Plan B foils set up to lose to her (or could be safely relied on to follow the neocon agenda if they somehow won). This whole scheme was based on the neocon demand for certainty, and total conformity. But the war party blundered in welcoming a large GOP field in the 2016 race (to crowd out Rand), as this led a few candidates to ride the 'outsider' wave to establish a unique marketing position in the campaign.

This trend was not foreseen by the neocons, thus the success of contenders like Cruz and Trump was not part of their plan. These guys were thought to be momentary fads at best, who would make Bush, Walker and Rubio look more serious and sober by comparison, with the latter group's money, endorsements and saturation media coverage doing the rest to keep them on top. Instead, the anti-establishment voters crushed the Three Stooges, making this the first time in decades that big donor money, big endorsements and the MSM failed to make the approved insider the prospective nominee. Another indication that this was not part of a plan.

Neocons could play on Trump's and (more easily) Cruz's Jacksonian foreign policy impulses, to try to turn them into defacto neocons in office, but they dislike the uncertainty and lack of control that entails. To the war party, you're either "full monty" with the program, or need to be replaced by a puppet who is. Since neither Trump or Cruz can be trusted on this basis, that explains all the scrambling going on---they don't have a Plan C. Neither, for that matter, do they trust Kasich, who though pro-war, AIPAC bootlicking, etc, is also too independent to be trusted. Note there is almost no talk about the elite manuveuring a contested con to benefit Kasich.