Do any Republicans support Paul?

[cujothekitten]

If you think Allen Keyes is insane then you may want to reconsider Ron Paul. They are actually in tune with each other.

They're not even close. I've listened to tons of Keys stuff, I know his daughter... they are nothing alike. They may agree on many issues but Alan is crazy.

During one of his speeches he said if we didn't vote for him we'd go to hell... When he lost to Obama he kept spouting off about how evil we were and how god doesn't like liberals. I'm no liberal but that's pretty arrogant.

 

[Brandybuck]

The Republican rhetoric has always been smaller government and freer markets. Their deeds hardly ever matched their words, but at least they were speaking the right words. On the other side, Democrats have never been for a smaller government and freer markets. Quite the opposite. Their campaign rhetoric is about new government programs, new regulations and new taxes. In deed, the two parties are very similar. In words, they are quite different.

But because the Republican rhetoric has traditionally been pro-liberty, it's still the best fishing spot for liberty minded individuals.

 

[PaleoForPaul]

Conservative.

I'm wondering how many who visit this forum have ever voted Republican before? It seems that Ron Paul mostly gets attention from the anti-war crowd (not that you can't be a Republican and not support the war), but nobody talks about conservative issues like immigration, gun control, and abortion.

I've never voted for a democrat. My biggest regret as a voter is not voting for Buchanan in 2000, even though it would have made no difference.

I think Ron Paul doesn't play up the conservative issues enough either. He's more conservative than all of the others. I've been reading Ron Paul since 2002 or 2003 on the web.

I actually don't agree with the 'pull out right away' approach to the Iraq war, but I do agree with his overall foreign policy. The way he really won me over is with his commitment to combat the welfare state.

While all of the conservative talking heads are talking about the war on terror, our upcoming demographic shifts...the baby boomers retiring, along with the import of unskilled workers and a falling birthrate among skilled workers is a larger threat to our country. I think someone with a sound fiscal policy is needed to get our house in order.

If you listen to conservative talk radio, ALL they are talking about anymore is immigration, and I don't just mean Hannity and Limbaugh. I mean dozens of shows like Doug Mcintyre, John and Ken, etc. That is the biggest conservative topic, and possibly what will eliminate McCain and Romney from the running. Why don't people start playing up Ron Paul's strong position on this? The reason is that most of his supporters aren't traditional conservatives and don't really care about this topic.

I've thought the same thing before. Ron Paul doesn't talk enough about the issues that he's aligned with Republicans on.

 

[lucky]

Lol

They're not even close. I've listened to tons of Keys stuff, I know his daughter... they are nothing alike. They may agree on many issues but Alan is crazy.

During one of his speeches he said if we didn't vote for him we'd go to hell... When he lost to Obama he kept spouting off about how evil we were and how god doesn't like liberals. I'm no liberal but that's pretty arrogant.

Better check the internet on Ron Paul. Many are saying he is nuts also.

They are both very much alike in talk but I always thought Keyes was just another Big government Republican but Ron Paul I KNOW is not. It was a horrid way how Keyes was thrown in at the last minute and get little financial support from the Republican machine after they had invited him to the state to run because no one else wanted to run.

He did not refuse to shake Keyes hand until after he had lost and that was after everyone had voted. He is arrogant for sure and he may have rubbed many the wrong way but he is at least a conservative. If he wants to be arrogant in the Senate with those windbags then great.


The only thing that puzzled me was you siad there were a few things that you look for in a candidate and believed in heavily. You used your vote to help elect the one guy who is going to do everything in his power to take away those things.

To me my vote is very important and feel it is my only weapon I have.

 

[Craig_R]

I was a goldwater republican, regan said many things I agreed with, however he didnt follow words with actions, his courting of the "moral majority" is what turned me off to the republican party. we've been electing presidents based on where they stand on issues they have no constitutional authority over and its absurd. I left the GOP for the Libertarian Party because thats where all the conservatives were, now that the LP leadership has ,in my book ,tried to court more liberals. I barely support that party either.

I think a large part of what they call the republican base, is largely clueless as to what conservative means. those that do know true conservatism are probably already here, or will be shortly.

 

[lucky]

Yes

I was a goldwater republican, regan said many things I agreed with, however he didnt follow words with actions, his courting of the "moral majority" is what turned me off to the republican party. we've been electing presidents based on where they stand on issues they have no constitutional authority over and its absurd. I left the GOP for the Libertarian Party because thats where all the conservatives were, now that the LP leadership has ,in my book ,tried to court more liberals. I barely support that party either.

I think a large part of what they call the republican base, is largely clueless as to what conservative means. those that do know true conservatism are probably already here, or will be shortly.

I am a true Conservative and fell for the BS. I should have known better but the Libertarian party platform that I read was bad news. I started to realize years ago but could not vote for Socialist policies of the Democrats and have always voted since I was 18 years old.

I kept it up until the Republicans had both the Congress and the white house and it was time to put up or shut up. They failed me big time. And yes I should have known better. The only man I have voted for that I am happy that Ron Paul has been my Congressman. The only man that I can say has been the bright spot.

What most do not realize is that Ron Paul is actually following the Republican platform to a "T".

 

[cujothekitten]

Better check the internet on Ron Paul. Many are saying he is nuts also.

I have personal experience of his craziness.

They are both very much alike in talk but I always thought Keyes was just another Big government Republican but Ron Paul I KNOW is not. It was a horrid way how Keyes was thrown in at the last minute and get little financial support from the Republican machine after they had invited him to the state to run because no one else wanted to run.

I didn't think he was treated very nice but OMG that whole debacle was embarrassing. He only had a couple months to run and it was pretty obvious that he wasn't going to win. Ryan's sex scandal pretty much took care of any republican chance. It didn't help that Alan was saying we were all going to hell if we didn't vote for him...

He did not refuse to shake Keyes hand until after he had lost and that was after everyone had voted. He is arrogant for sure and he may have rubbed many the wrong way but he is at least a conservative. If he wants to be arrogant in the Senate with those windbags then great.

He ran on abortion and god and that was his platform. I don't mind people being arrogant about abortion but I'm not going to just let a politician say we're evil simply because we don't agree with his beliefs. That kind of arrogance needs to be brought down a peg.

The only thing that puzzled me was you siad there were a few things that you look for in a candidate and believed in heavily. You used your vote to help elect the one guy who is going to do everything in his power to take away those things.

Gun control was the only specific issue I brought up, the others are pretty general. Anti-big government covers a wide range of issues as does taxes. I wasn't being specific.

 

[silvestris]

After 59 years, I had given up. I was on the couch watching the MSNBC debate when I heard words which caused me to sit up and take notice. Who is this Ron Paul guy? He was saying the things I had often thought of but never again expected to hear from someone involved in a major party debate.

In my 20s I read Rothbard and von Mises and eagerly awaited each issue of Reason magazine. I didn't agree with all, but most. I somehow stopped reading Libertarian publications, but my love of liberty from my readings as a young man never left me.

I voted Republican in all of the presidential elections but one. I could not pull the elephant's snout in 2004, rather voting for the Constitutional party in protest of Bush.

So, yes, many Republicans will be drawn to Dr. Paul's message.

 

[Silverback]

I've never voted for a democrat, I had the pleasure of voting for Dr. Paul in 1988 and Mr Badnarik in '04 but otherwise I've been a consistent republican voter for national offices my entire life.

There's a LOT of people like me out there, people who're registered republican but always leaned libertarian, and even more people who've become disillusioned with authoritarian collectivist neoconservatism, more every day.

There's a long time yet to discuss guns and such, all we need to do is pick up a little more momentum and GOA will endorse him, he's already their top-rated candidate.