DJIA, NYSE, S&P = CRASH!!!

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Some cats can really bounce. The "dead cat" in 2011 bounced about 6,000 points (about 50%) by 2014.

But I do like that a one or two day decline becomes "This Is It! The Big One (Crash) has begun!" and an up day is "dead cat bounce".

The "biggest EVER drop at the start of the Year" is currently down a "massive" six percent.
 
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Some cats can really bounce. The "dead cat" in 2011 bounced about 6,000 points (about 50%) by 2014.

But I do like that a one or two day decline becomes "This Is It! The Big One (Crash) has begun!" and an up day is "dead cat bounce".

The "biggest EVER drop at the start of the Year" is currently down a "massive" six percent.

Come on Zip, you damn well know practically every voice worth listening to in the financial world is saying 2016 will be brutal on all markets. The chorus is louder by the day and even heavy hitters are calling it. Dunno about anyone else but this daily back-and-forth about up and down days (while the trend is clearly toward the down) is a waste of my time. The only thing that could reverse the down trend is another public Fed QE announcement.
 
Yes, everybody "knows" this year will suck big time. Run for the exits!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-economy-poll-usa-idUSKCN0US1UG20160114

The poll of over 90 economists found the U.S. economy will grow 2.5 percent in 2016, the same as predicted for 2015 and down from the 2.8 percent they were expecting a year ago - a decent pace but not enough to generate a strong rebound in inflation.

"U.S. economic growth appears to have shifted to a lower gear in the final months of 2015," noted Northern Trust economists Carl Tannenbaum and Asha Bangalore.

"It has left many concerned about the well-being of the economy and raised questions about the Federal Reserve's recent hike of the policy rate," they wrote, stressing that this does not reflect "a widespread deceleration of economic activity."

While growth this year is unlikely to be spectacular, respondents only saw a 15 percent chance of the economy sliding into a recession. A majority of those who answered an additional question said they expect the current business cycle to come to an end in the next two to three years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/billcon...-forecast-2016-2017/#2715e4857a0b6644f81943f4

Global Economic Forecast 2016-2017

The global economy is poised for economic growth comparable to recent years’ performance, but with a somewhat different texture. European countries will do a bit better, Asian countries just a hair worse, and natural resource-based economies much worse.

Last month the International Monetary Fund released their World Economic Outlook, which provides a middle-of-the-road starting place for looking at the global economy. The IMF expects the world overall to expand in 2016 by 3.6 percent inflation adjusted, up from this year’s estimated 3.1 percent growth. Both advanced and emerging economies contribute to the improvement.Global Economic Growth

Europe is slated for moderate growth, 1.9 percent measured by GDP. Given the minimal population growth rate for the Continent, this is pretty decent but not booming. Industrial activity edged down earlier this year but has since recovered most of the lost ground. Although the deal with Greece merely papered over fundamental problems, the major economies will continue unscathed.

Here in North America, look for growth about in pace with last year’s. The United States economic outlook was described in my recent Economic Forecast 2016-2017. Canada will grow a bit more slowly than the U.S. due to its concentration in oil and other commodities. Mexican economic growth is solid, with low inflation and low unemployment. The country’s prospects are good.

Asia is the wild card for the global economic outlook. China in particular is opaque: we don’t really know what’s happening inside that giant economy. The official growth rate of GDP is 6.9 percent, down from 7.0 in previous quarters, but no one trusts the official statistics. We know that U.S. exports to China declined early this year but have looked better in recent months. Consumers are helping the economy, good news given weak capital spending. Elsewhere, Japan has relapsed into recession, though unemployment remains very low. Shrinking population and labor force prevent much growth there. India’s growth remains strong, but capital spending has slackened this year. Consumer spending and low commodity prices are strengths that should enable India to continue its strong expansion.

The commodity-dependent countries, much of Latin America and Africa along with parts of Asia, are facing difficult times. Commodity prices are 30 percent lower than their 2011 peak, driving cutbacks in mining, petroleum and agriculture. Current price levels are still better than anything seen before 2007, but they don’t justify continuation of recent production levels, and certainly not continuation of new project construction.

Eventually there will be another downturn and you will proclaim: "See! I was right all along" while ignoring all the years it did not happen.

I believe it was you declaring that the BRICs were going to bury the US economically. That we were done for and they were the new powers. Today they are the struggling countries and we are improving.

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The Economist

Buttonwood

Picnic for the bears

Fears of deflation and recession hit markets

Jan 16th 2016 | From the print edition

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GLOOM seems to have descended at the start of 2016. Equity markets have had the worst start to the year in at least two decades. The great and the good have queued up to warn of the dangers ahead.

George Soros, a fund manager, said the Chinese financial environment reminded him of 2008, when the financial crisis was at its height. Larry Summers, a former American treasury secretary, declared in the Financial Times:
“The global risk to domestic economic performance in the US, Europe and many emerging markets is as great as any time I can remember.”

George Osborne, Britain’s chancellor, spoke of a

“cocktail of threats”

facing the global economy.


The chart shows a number of indicators of concern, from rising credit spreads (the interest-rate premium paid by risky borrowers) to slumping stockmarkets in the emerging world. Investors have many worries. The first is that the Chinese economy is weaker than the GDP statistics suggest. Falling commodity prices, the collapse in the Baltic Dry index (which tracks the cost of shipping bulk goods) and the sluggish growth of global trade can all be seen as signs of weakness. Given China’s importance to global growth, this means that 2016 may turn out to be yet another year when growth disappoints.


Mr Soros sees a parallel with 2008 in the rapid credit growth in China and other emerging markets. If growth slows, borrowers may be unable to repay their debts. Similarly, emerging-market companies that have borrowed in dollars may be in trouble if their currencies depreciate. Asian nations might be forced to devalue if China lets the yuan fall sharply (see Free exchange).

The second concern is that the Federal Reserve might have miscalculated when it pushed up interest rates in December—the first increase since 2006. The employment numbers in America may still be strong, as December’s muscular payroll numbers showed, but the labour market is a lagging indicator. The Atlanta Fed’s nowcasting model suggests that GDP growth in the fourth quarter was just 0.8% at an annualised rate. Manufacturing looks weak: the purchasing managers’ index has been below 50 (which signals contraction) for two straight months.

A related worry is that the global economy has become over-dependent on the stimulus provided by low interest rates and quantitative easing (QE). Such policies may have saved the world from another depression, but they have not led to a return to pre-crisis growth rates. Moreover, by pushing up asset prices, they have spurred inequality. Nor has the problem of high debt levels been eliminated; the debt has simply been shifted from the private to the public sector. A swift return to what used to be thought of as “normal” interest rates (3-4%) would prove crippling.

Martin Taylor, manager of a hedge fund called Nevsky Capital, detailed his concerns in a farewell letter to clients. Despite having earned an average annual return of 18% for 15 years, he is closing the fund. He fears that the global economy has become too dependent on China and India, where he does not trust the economic data. Individual equities have also become riskier, since companies have taken advantage of low rates to borrow more. And the equity market is less transparent, with trading dominated by index funds and computer programs. The risk of sudden, sharp shifts in prices has grown. “We could be caught up in an erroneous market trend,




which could then persist for far longer than we could take the pain,” Mr Taylor wrote.


All this is in stark contrast with the idea of fund managers as “masters of the universe” or the Thatcherite mantra, “You can’t buck the markets”. Since 2008 central banks have shown they can bend the markets to their will, at least for a while. Investors have to devote a lot of their time to poring over every word of central bankers’ speeches and statements for a change in policy emphasis.

But perhaps this year’s sell-off indicates that central banks are losing their grip
or that investors are less confident the authorities know what they are doing.

Albert Edwards, an ultra-bearish strategist at Société Générale (SG), a French bank, says: “The Fed and its promiscuous fraternity of central banks have created the conditions for another debacle every bit as large as the 2008 global financial crisis.” He thinks a global recession and widespread deflation are on their way. This may still be a minority view, but more people are listening: SG’s annual bearfest in London this week had 850 attendees, a record audience.
http://www.economist.com/news/finan...lation-and-recession-hit-markets-picnic-bears
 
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Actually, we are talking about soup kitchens and widespread blackouts, kid yourself not.

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Walmart considering closing 269 stores globally out of 11,600- not as scary as the Drudge headline makes it sound. Hardly a collapse. http://news.walmart.com/news-archiv...inues-sharpened-focus-on-portfolio-management

Yes, but coming on the heels of what appears to be a massively disappointing Christmas season, it's bad news.

A friend of mine who works in gas and oil just attended a company meeting that started out with the owner explaining that this has been the worst year they've had in the 37 years they have existed. It went downhill from there.
 
Oil is tough and getting worse as the price continues to fall. Most fracking needs around $60 a barrel to continue.
 
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