DJIA, NYSE, S&P = CRASH!!!

[dannno]

Call it what you want, it is a highly risky investment. Over most time periods, it loses money for investors.

How does it usually do during Shmita?

 

[brandon]

Are you really basing your argument on a red line you drew on a graph in mspaint? Or is there something else here I'm missing?

 

[presence]

How many times in the past have the indexes gone below the trend line and a collapse followed?

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Since you are into chart analysis, I would expect you probably have the data on this.

breach of five year linear support is not something to be scoffed at

 

[William Tell]

I'm silver, bitcoin and a little cash. Anything else I need to do?

Stay out of the cities.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Are you really basing your argument on a red line you drew on a graph in mspaint? Or is there something else here I'm missing?

mspaint doesn't make lines that are that smooth

 

[Zippyjuan]

How does it usually do during Shmita?

The current one ends September 13th. So far, the S&P has been doing pretty good. Proshares has gone from $44.80 to $32.89- off 25%.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I'm silver, bitcoin and a little cash. Anything else I need to do?

bitcoin will mean shit if a large catastrophe shuts down wide access to the internet or even electricity

 

[Zippyjuan]

Pretty graph but still doesn't answer the question as to how often the predictor of stock falling below some "support level" is actually followed by a recession. It does show that stocks have gone up and down. It does show how often it did. So how many times did it fail to predict? (I am not going to personally count all those littler downward jags followed by more increases but there are a whole lot more of them than the big ones).

Another point is that the slope of a "support line" or a "trend line" will depend heavily on the time frame (length) you give it and on the dates you start and stop it. It is really arbitrary- not a fixed point which cannot be crossed without a crisis. They change over time too. A ten year line will have a different slope from a five year line or from a three year line. Are any of them more or less valid or more or less predictive? Or are none of them necessarily predictive of the future? If a line is crossed, are we guaranteed a recession? No- we aren't.

 

[devil21]

Are you really basing your argument on a red line you drew on a graph in mspaint? Or is there something else here I'm missing?

Yeah, it's called the "big picture".

 

[staerker]

bitcoin will mean shit if a large catastrophe shuts down wide access to the internet or even electricity

The discussion is about a market crash, not an approaching meteor. ?

 

[wizardwatson]

How does it usually do during Shmita?

If you're asking that you aren't understanding the Mystery of the Shemitah.

It's not a recurring pattern. It's a countdown. Each Shemitah anomaly points to something.

The last two were very pronounced.

At the end of the Shemitah year, Elul 29 on the Hebrew calendar is when you wipe out debts.

The Shemitah year ended in 2001 on September 17th. That was Elul 29. That was the stock crash day and the first day the market was open after September 11th, and thus was essentially the same "market day" as September 11th, 2001. DJIA lost 7% of it's value that day.

The next Shemitah year ended in 2008 on September 29th. That was also Elul 29. That was the biggest stock crash of the 2008 recession. Again the market lost 7% and a point value of 777.68.

It's a countdown.

The next Shemitah ends this year on September 13th. That's Elul 29. It's a Sunday. That means the last market day will be Friday, September 11th.

But the end of "this" Shemitah year means something else. It's also a once every 49 years jubilee year which starts on September 23rd. So 2015 is kind of like a "super Shemitah" as Jonathan Cahn puts it. The jubilee is the year of freedom and liberty and the year when people get returned to their land and their possession.

Anyway, the reason we're seeing "shemitah cycles" isn't because God just makes them part of the fabric of nature. It's because there's a message He is sending.

These are just a few of the connections. The more you look the picture only gets more refined.

 

[jllundqu]

GTFO of Stock Market

BTFD!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Mystery of the Shemitah sounds like a south park episode

 

[Zippyjuan]

We'll find out in about a month.

Actually the Shemitah is a year you are supposed to not plant any crops to let the soil recuperate. It is also supposed to be the year you repay your debts and start out clean (its only reference to money). It doesn't care about the US stock market (America didn't even exist when the text was written).

 

[jllundqu]

Shemitah Shmemitah.... hokus pocus oogity boogity BOO!

 

[wizardwatson]

Mystery of the Shemitah sounds like a south park episode

Well, all things related to God these days seem to be worthy of mockery in the minds of most, so I don't see why this would be received any differently.

 

[wizardwatson]

Shemitah Shmemitah.... hokus pocus oogity boogity BOO!

Ditto.

 

[Zippyjuan]

If you're asking that you aren't understanding the Mystery of the Shemitah.

It's not a recurring pattern. It's a countdown. Each Shemitah anomaly points to something.

The last two were very pronounced.

At the end of the Shemitah year, Elul 29 on the Hebrew calendar is when you wipe out debts.

The Shemitah year ended in 2001 on September 17th. That was Elul 29. That was the stock crash day and the first day the market was open after September 11th, and thus was essentially the same "market day" as September 11th, 2001. DJIA lost 7% of it's value that day.

The next Shemitah year ended in 2008 on September 29th. That was also Elul 29. That was the biggest stock crash of the 2008 recession. Again the market lost 7% and a point value of 777.68.

It's a countdown.

The next Shemitah ends this year on September 13th. That's Elul 29. It's a Sunday. That means the last market day will be Friday, September 11th.

But the end of "this" Shemitah year means something else. It's also a once every 49 years jubilee year which starts on September 23rd. So 2015 is kind of like a "super Shemitah" as Jonathan Cahn puts it. The jubilee is the year of freedom and liberty and the year when people get returned to their land and their possession.

Anyway, the reason we're seeing "shemitah cycles" isn't because God just makes them part of the fabric of nature. It's because there's a message He is sending.

These are just a few of the connections. The more you look the picture only gets more refined.

The next Shemitah year ended in 2008 on September 29th. That was also Elul 29. That was the biggest stock crash of the 2008 recession. Again the market lost 7% and a point value of 777.68.

Biggest percent decline of 2008 was on October 15th of that year (off 7.87%). September 29th was 6.98%.

October 10th also was worse in percent terms (7.33%) as was December 10th (7.70%).

In points, yes it was the biggest. But in percent losses, it was fourth. The rest all came after Shemitah ended. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average

The October 1987 stock market crash also came after Shemitah ended.

 

[wizardwatson]

Biggest percent decline of 2008 was on October 15th of that year (off 7.87%). September 29th was 6.98%. October 10th also was worse in percent terms (7.33%) as was December 10th (7.70%). In points, yes it was the biggest. But in percent losses, it was fourth. The rest all came after Shemitah ended. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average

Thanks for the clarification. Volume-wise it was the biggest. Percent-wise it was within less than 1% of the biggest.

 

[presence]

BTFD!!!!!!!!!!!!