Diebold Machines?!?
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virginiakid
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I know in my precinct they gave you a choice to vote on the machine or paper ballot. Of course I chose the paper ballot.
I think each state, like VA, should seperately filed class action suits against their state election board demanding transparency. We have the right to know our vote counted. I was so pissed using that machine! There is ZERO way to know if your vote was for RP for sure or not.
nightlight
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That is not practical since it requires substantial time & effort investment from each individual voting and it would be difficult to get near 100% cooperation.
We could get much more bang for the buck if we select few random precincts (not known to anyone in advance) and have observer teams which would count all Ron Paul votes (by setting up a well marked post outside) as well as the totals of all votes in the precinct. These counts would then be compared with the announced counts for the precincts. The method requires almost no effort from the individuals voting and no cooperation from anyone but our own supporters (to come by the post and show thumbs up or maybe sign in). Since any cheating would need some kind of advance rigging of software, the random selection of precinct would discourage cheating anywhere. Once major discrepancy is caught, one can call out all Ron Paul voters at that location and have them sign affidavits in order to pursue it in the courts.
The major benefit of such systematic well publicized fraud prevention effort is not so much prevention of the fraud, helpful as it is, but the morale boosting effects -- it is much harder to motivate people to do much who have doubts that the effort is a waste anyway due to vote fraud. Further, the supporters are much more willing to do their share when there is a clear evidence that at least some folks on their side know what they are doing in contrast to perceiving their campaigns as incompetent.
Unfortunately, the time to think of and prepare for this kind of monitoring was back in December. Hopefully, by December 2012 we will be smarter about all of this. There are also much more fraud-proof schemes discussed at blackboxvoting, but these would require much more effort and/or cooperation from the state election bureaucrats.
We've had 8 years to fix this and not one effort has been made. If they cared, we would have seen something done by now. A little national recognition of this fraud would do tons in leading to solutions, but they won't even talk about it. I can't believe we're still using this company considering all of it's faults. Simple paper ballots are a hundred times better than these machines. Why is there a need to make this complicated? There are more people who understand how to read a piece of paper than know how to read some computer code. Where is the oversight? In the hands of who? I don't trust it. I call fraud in VA. I can't believe I voted on a touchscreen with a blank card that leaves no physical trace and cannot be verified. 
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dmspilot00
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They had WinVote machines at my precint. http://www.advancedvoting.com/
Same here.
That's what they have in my precinct too. We've been using them for about five years now I think.
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Diebold is a scam company....corporate pundant....fixed programming......hacked elections
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