Did you discuss politics at Christmas dinner?

[pinkmandy]

Sure did! They are all voting for Paul in the primary. I didn't have to say much at all, most voted for Obama last time and aren't happy. They also discussed the way the media treats him and are disgusted by it. It actually seemed to help them make their decisions- talk about blowback. They are appalled at the media's treatment of someone who simply stands for ending wars, cutting the spending and restoring the constitution and our rights (the big issues to them) and even laughed at the media propping up one repub after another while attacking Paul. It's very transparent to them and most do not follow politics like I do. They didn't know much about the fed but that's okay for now and I was just happy to not be the one leading the Paul conversation or trying to convince them that he was the best (only) choice for the change we do need. Their biggest concern was whether Paul would be able to do the things that he talks about because they're very much behind his platform.

And as Virginians they were all laughing at Newt not being on the ballot. Nobody I know or they know likes the guy. How is he polling so high? Ew.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

My aunt, who is a Bachmann (and anybody but Obama) supporter who is leaning toward Paul, was under the impression that Paul doesn't match up very well in a head-to-head against Obama. I explained to her that Paul fares a lot better than she's been led to believe. When I asked her how the other candidates could take on Obama w/o the Paul supporters, she sat back and thought for a second. She was actually floored (in a good way) to think that Paul supporters wouldn't be towing the line for the eventual GOP nominee. So, pretty sure she is on board because my cousins are fairly young and are inheriting mass debt. My uncle is a VA doctor so he naturally is inclined towards Paul plus he's a hardcore gun polisher. Basically, the entire family is pro-Paul.

 

[V3n]

Yes, 70 year old male asked if anyone likes anyone running. Wife and I said Ron. Others had no clue. He asked if we like him or his policies ... And I Said they are one and the same for me. He said they are not and that Ron seems to old and weak to be the US president. He had good points but I said we need him and gave reasons why... He did not argue but still felt he is to old.

Show them this: http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-08-20/r...tus-quo-to-20-mile-bike-race-in-houston-heat/

Ron Paul: I’ve offered to ride a bicycle for 20 miles in Houston when the temperature is 100° and the humidity is 100% and I will go 20 miles with them and then we’ll decide who’s the youngest.

then this (check out those guns!):

 

[braane]

My aunt is pretty well liberal, but a rational voter who looks into all candidates. I am working on her pretty hard for the general election. She doesn't vote in either primary. I got her Liberty Defined and the Law, hopefully by the time the general election comes around she will be on board.

 

[Chris_Redfield]

My family made me take pictures, and instead of saying cheese i made them say "Ron Paul" and "End the Fed" haha but I did not really try to go in depth

 

[Jingles]

Politics and my family don't mix. Plus, Christmas's are really awkward in the first place. No need for politics to come up as well.

I don't really feel like being screamed at about "YOU HATE POOR PEOPLE!!!!!" on Christmas.

 

[Kluge]

Does it count if I only talked to libertarian-leaning family members who would've voted for Paul anyway?

It seems the same every year -- what I enjoy most about family get-togethers around the holidays... after the first 30m or so of having gathered, is sleep.

 

[TroySmith]

My uncle is not voting Democrat for the first time in his life. He's voting Ron Paul.

 

[back2basics]

Talked to them some about anti war stuff. They said Obama ended the Iraq war, I told them it's not over we still have 17,000 people there troops were just replaced with contractors etc. They were kinda shocked. Told them Ron will order all the troops home on day 1, Obama could have but didn't. .

can you show me links about contractors replacing troops in Iraq

 

[Travlyr]

Of course I did. I do not want my grandsons being conscripted.

 

[braane]

can you show me links about contractors replacing troops in Iraq

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-fayetteville/iraq-us-military-out-22-5k-us-contractors-in

 

[coastie]

DEAR GOD NO!

My mother is a Neocon. She's huge on Gingrich or Romney. I don't know which, but I also don't want to know.

Everyone else is ignorant of politics. I'm literally all alone on this one.

Try harder-this is how my in laws were for years, and I got through. Don't give up, this is not 2008, this is really it. We cannot afford in every use of the term to not have this man elected.


I cannot even stress the importance of getting through to people right now-if this doesn't happen for us, family, jobs-everything we know and love - will just be fond memories of what used to be.

I, for one, REFUSE to sit by and watch this happen, as I also REFUSE to accept one day in the future sitting in a prison cell or interment camp or the bombed out shell of my home thinking about what I could have done to help stop this(peacefully).


ETA: My dad's two dinner guests were also converted tonight. Score 18 in two days in a state people were saying we should just concede.

 

[specsaregood]

Talked the GIL today. She was worried about Iran and how they were gonna blow up the world. I just asked her, instead of our first response being "we are gonna bomb you, don't ya think we should sit down and talk to them first? That is all Dr. Paul is suggesting, that we try diplomacy first, and all the other people think its the christian thing to go and bomb first and never talk. What Ron Paul is suggesting, is exactly like ole' Ronnie Reagan did with Gorbachev; that we talk before we bomb."

she really liked that, in the end she'll vote for RP, just because I told her that her great grandson would like her to vote for Dr. PAul.

 

[newbitech]

score 6 SIX! http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-voting-for-Ron-Paul-this-year!-INCLUDING-DAD!

 

[Crickett]

Christmas dinner was just me and the dog.

We discussed politics, and then the whole thing went downhill. A big argument broke out, with me holding out for Ron Paul and the dog making a determined argument in favor of dropping Paul in favor of Gary Johnson. (the dog said Johnson made some sort of reference to canines in the first debate, and therefore is convinced that Johnson is more "pro-dog" than any other candidate.)

I told the dog that Gary Johnson had already dropped out and was running for the Libertarian nomination. Dog hadn't heard this (he didn't pay his share of the cable TV bill last month, so I cut the service to his doghouse!) and needless to say, was quite irate by this turn of events. Things went downhill from there, with him accusing me of buying cheap dog biscuits (I thought they all tasted the same??!?) and me insulting him by accusing him of smelling like a wet dog.

I think we'll ban any political discussions at next year's dinner.

My dog was asleep so my conversation was with the barbecue grill which is not noted for its intelligence. It kept talking about inflammation (but I think it meant inflation) and also about conflagration not passing the right bills. It was a useless conversation but I got the idea that it was for Ron. It said it had a steak in the election.

 

[69360]

can you show me links about contractors replacing troops in Iraq

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-fayetteville/iraq-us-military-out-22-5k-us-contractors-in

That's a fair story on it. Ron spoke about it in one of the debates as well.

 

[torchbearer]

I did so only after others brought it up. I talked policy and political philosophy. I even told my cousin i've been working on getting him back from afghanistan, which he sincerely thanked me for.. it wasn't until the end- when everyone was agreeing with "my" ideas that I told them that it was ron paul i supported because he supports those ideas too. i saw many wheels turning.

 

[JCF]

Nope, didn't even think about it myself, but most of them are hardcore big government supporters anyway, even the people in my wife's family. I enjoy talking about it, but it's just sort of an unwritten rule for no one to discuss politics during family dinners, not because they don't all agree with each other, it's just that it's usually discussed in disgust, negativity... Something no one wants.

Talk of the fed or anything like that goes right over their heads.

 

[VBRonPaulFan]

a little. my dad brought up that gingrich didn't get on the ballot here in VA and I said I was fine with that because Ron Paul got on it

then my brother and sister both said they were voting for ron paul, and my dad said something along the lines of he hopes they forget to vote then. we're gonna have to work on him some, but hey... at least my brother and sister are all about him

 

[Dorfsmith]

Yes, 70 year old male asked if anyone likes anyone running. Wife and I said Ron. Others had no clue. He asked if we like him or his policies ... And I Said they are one and the same for me. He said they are not and that Ron seems to old and weak to be the US president. He had good points but I said we need him and gave reasons why... He did not argue but still felt he is to old.

I had this discussion with my grandma in law a few weeks ago. I showed her a picture of Ron Paul on a bike and asked her if she thought Gingrich or Paul were in better shape. She admitted that Paul is probably much healthier.