Did Trump Just Accuse U.S. Soldiers of Embezzling Money Meant for Iraq?

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Did Trump Just Accuse U.S. Soldiers of Embezzling Money Meant for Iraq?

Donald Trump tonight made a comment that sounded an awful lot like he was accusing U.S. soldiers of embezzling money…

Trump went on a riff at his North Carolina rally tonight about Iraq, saying, “How about bringing baskets of money, millions and millions of dollars, and handing it out.”

It would appear there Trump is referring to the Iraqi reconstruction funds the U.S. funneled into Iraq. He continued, “I want to know who were the soldiers that had that job, ’cause I think they’re living well right now, whoever they may be.”

Now, it was famously reported back then that a lot of the money meant for Iraq reconstruction went missing and a lot of it got misspent, but Trump is making the specific accusation that U.S. soldiers took that money and are now “living well” off it.

And in case there’s any lingering doubts as to what he could have meant there, behold this Guardian report on something Trump said back in the fall:

He also suggested that some American soldiers charged with distributing money to fund the Afghan and Iraqi government embezzled it instead. “I want to know who are the soldiers carrying suitcases with $50m?” asked Trump. “How stupid are we? I wouldn’t be surprised if those soldiers, if the cash didn’t get there.”
UPDATE –– 10:04 pm EST: A Trump spokesperson says he was referring to Iraqi soldiers
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/did-trump-just-accuse-u-s-soldiers-of-embezzling-money-meant-for-iraq/

His people know, out of all the fuckups he's done this and last week, this one is especially bad, they immediately try to "clarify" it.
 
PACs already cutting ads:

 
US troops would not have a case full of cash . That is another govt agency.
 
How the US sent $12bn in cash to Iraq. And watched it vanish

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1

7 February 2007, by David Pallister

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[SUP]An armed guard poses beside pallets of $100 bills in Baghdad. Almost $12bn in cash was spent by the US-led authority[/SUP]

The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it and how it was being spent.
The staggering scale of the biggest transfer of cash in the history of the Federal Reserve has been graphically laid bare by a US congressional committee.

In the year after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 nearly 281 million notes, weighing 363 tonnes, were sent from New York to Baghdad for disbursement to Iraqi ministries and US contractors. Using C-130 planes, the deliveries took place once or twice a month with the biggest of $2,401,600,000 on June 22 2004, six days before the handover.

Details of the shipments have emerged in a memorandum prepared for the meeting of the House committee on oversight and government reform which is examining Iraqi reconstruction. Its chairman, Henry Waxman, a fierce critic of the war, said the way the cash had been handled was mind-boggling. "The numbers are so large that it doesn't seem possible that they're true. Who in their right mind would send 363 tonnes of cash into a war zone?"

The memorandum details the casual manner in which the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority disbursed the money, which came from Iraqi oil sales, surplus funds from the UN oil-for-food programme and seized Iraqi assets.

"One CPA official described an environment awash in $100 bills," the memorandum says. "One contractor received a $2m payment in a duffel bag stuffed with shrink-wrapped bundles of currency. Auditors discovered that the key to a vault was kept in an unsecured backpack.

"They also found that $774,300 in cash had been stolen from one division's vault. Cash payments were made from the back of a pickup truck, and cash was stored in unguarded sacks in Iraqi ministry offices. One official was given $6.75m in cash, and was ordered to spend it in one week before the interim Iraqi government took control of Iraqi funds."

The minutes from a May 2004 CPA meeting reveal "a single disbursement of $500m in security funding labelled merely 'TBD', meaning 'to be determined'."

The memorandum concludes: "Many of the funds appear to have been lost to corruption and waste ... thousands of 'ghost employees' were receiving pay cheques from Iraqi ministries under the CPA's control. Some of the funds could have enriched both criminals and insurgents fighting the United States."

According to Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, the $8.8bn funds to Iraqi ministries were disbursed "without assurance the monies were properly used or accounted for". But, according to the memorandum, "he now believes that the lack of accountability and transparency extended to the entire $20bn expended by the CPA".

To oversee the expenditure the CPA was supposed to appoint an independent certified public accounting firm. "Instead the CPA hired an obscure consulting firm called North Star Consultants Inc. The firm was so small that it reportedly operates out of a private home in San Diego." Mr Bowen found that the company "did not perform a review of internal controls as required by the contract".

However, evidence before the committee suggests that senior American officials were unconcerned about the situation because the billions were not US taxpayers' money. Paul Bremer, the head of the CPA, reminded the committee that "the subject of today's hearing is the CPA's use and accounting for funds belonging to the Iraqi people held in the so-called Development Fund for Iraq. These are not appropriated American funds. They are Iraqi funds. I believe the CPA discharged its responsibilities to manage these Iraqi funds on behalf of the Iraqi people."

Bremer's financial adviser, retired Admiral David Oliver, is even more direct. The memorandum quotes an interview with the BBC World Service. Asked what had happened to the $8.8bn he replied: "I have no idea. I can't tell you whether or not the money went to the right things or didn't - nor do I actually think it's important."

Q: "But the fact is billions of dollars have disappeared without trace."

Oliver: "Of their money. Billions of dollars of their money, yeah I understand. I'm saying what difference does it make?"

Mr Bremer, whose disbanding of the Iraqi armed forces and de-Ba'athification programme have been blamed as contributing to the present chaos, told the committee: "I acknowledge that I made mistakes and that with the benefit of hindsight, I would have made some decisions differently. Our top priority was to get the economy moving again. The first step was to get money into the hands of the Iraqi people as quickly as possible."

Millions of civil service families had not received salaries or pensions for months and there was no effective banking system. "It was not a perfect solution," he said. "Delay might well have exacerbated the nascent insurgency and thereby increased the danger to Americans."
 
Trump is so politically incorrect, he had suggested that Commander-in-Chief of US military had faked his birther location, won't be surprised if he singled out some black sheeps within regular soldiers.



U.S. troops have stolen tens of millions in Iraq and Afghanistan
www.slate.com/.../u_s_troops_have_stolen_tens_of_millions_in_iraq_and_afgha...
May 5, 2015


Holding the bad apples accountable would be good for the good soldiers name.



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Where's the part where he suggests that they are US soldiers?

What part of...

“I want to know who were the soldiers that had that job, ’cause I think they’re living well right now, whoever they may be.”

...did you not understand?

Using soldiers who signed up out of faith that the government wouldn't send them into harm's way unless it was to protect their families and friends back home as a blind and a distraction to divert attention away from the real thieves of Iraq--contractors like Blackwater.

Sounds like something a real neocon would do to me.
 
An Iraq War Vet Delivers A Blistering Takedown Of Trump’s Claim That Troops Stole Millions In Iraq

Rolling Stone writer Corbin Reiff served as a Sergeant in the United States Army from 2006 to 2011. In 2009, he was deployed in Iraq to serve the Western Baghdad region as a Non-Commissioned Officer in Charge of Foreign Claims. In other words, he was a military-appointed claims adjuster. He was tasked with assessing damages to Iraqi citizens’ property and, if warranted, issuing financial compensation. Since Reiff writes primarily about music, his service isn’t something he typically talks about in his articles or on social media. However, after Donald Trump accused his fellow U.S. Army members of stealing millions from taxpayer funds he was entrusted with, Reiff aired his grievances on Twitter in a lengthy and damning screed against the presumptive Republican nominee.

After warning his followers that he was “about to go on a bit of a rant,” Reiff launched into a tweet-by-tweet explanation of what his particular gig in Iraq involved:
http://uproxx.com/webculture/iraq-war-veteran-takedown-trump/
 

lol... people are so stupid.. Trump accuses a few soldiers of possibly taking large sums of money, which in all likelihood did happen, to what extent we don't know - and so individual soldiers come out and claim it never happened because they didn't see it. Well, maybe only 10 soldiers out of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, ended up taking some of that money. Or maybe 50 or 100. The vast majority won't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It's sort of like all the people on the left who say that Donald Trump thinks every Mexican is a rapist. Forget about the fact that 80% of the women who cross the border illegally are raped, he never said every Mexican is a rapist. He said the government is actively sending rapists - and - well - some of the Mexicans the government is helping send to the US are rapists so technically he is correct. In fact, in parts of Mexico the age of consent is 12 - and even then, in some places men can't be charged with statutory rape unless it can be proven the girl was chaste beforehand - on top of that, in some places the punishment for rape is a fine of $20. Additionally, if the rapist agrees to marry his victim, he can be found not guilty.

But hey, thinking is hard, let's just call Donald Trump a racist.
 
Oh, sure. Trump was totally right to say it was stolen by soldiers, who were there to serve their nation, and were watched by hawks, and not by contractors, who seem not to have been overseen much, and were there for the profits.

Totally logical reason for accusing people without a shred of proof.

lol... But hey, thinking is hard...

You going to keep using that excuse your whole life?
 
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lol... people are so stupid.. Trump accuses a few soldiers of possibly taking large sums of money, which in all likelihood did happen, to what extent we don't know - and so individual soldiers come out and claim it never happened because they didn't see it. Well, maybe only 10 soldiers out of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, ended up taking some of that money. Or maybe 50 or 100. The vast majority won't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It's sort of like all the people on the left who say that Donald Trump thinks every Mexican is a rapist. Forget about the fact that 80% of the women who cross the border illegally are raped, he never said every Mexican is a rapist. He said the government is actively sending rapists - and - well - some of the Mexicans the government is helping send to the US are rapists so technically he is correct. In fact, in parts of Mexico the age of consent is 12 - and even then, in some places men can't be charged with statutory rape unless it can be proven the girl was chaste beforehand - on top of that, in some places the punishment for rape is a fine of $20. Additionally, if the rapist agrees to marry his victim, he can be found not guilty.

But hey, thinking is hard, let's just call Donald Trump a racist.

Where does he say it never happened?
 
Yea, you do know that this was proven to be 100% correct, right? 115 US service members were just tried and convicted of stealing millions. It's amazing how spot on this dude is with his non PC stuff.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...lions_in_iraq_and_afghanistan_center_for.html

As for the Vet that "blasted" Trump on twitter, does this dude have a guilty conscience or something? Seriously he came out swinging like DJT was talking about him. Makes you really wonder whether he didn't slide some stacks back for himself.
 
Why am I not surprised the OP was so quick to take up this left wing phony outrage over Trump insinuating something so naughty about our "heroes" in the US military? The same left wing detested (and rightly so) the same military for things like Abu Ghraib and the murders shown in the Collateral Murder video. Now the precious heroes who tortured innocent people and gunned them down from helicopters are too honorable to help themselves to a few wads of cash from pallets containing millions of dollars? Such disingenuous game playing.
 
Why am I not surprised the OP was so quick to take up this left wing phony outrage over Trump insinuating something so naughty about our "heroes" in the US military? The same left wing detested (and rightly so) the same military for things like Abu Ghraib and the murders shown in the Collateral Murder video. Now the precious heroes who tortured innocent people and gunned them down from helicopters are too honorable to help themselves to a few wads of cash from pallets containing millions of dollars? Such disingenuous game playing.

Trump is actually getting the worst of it over this from the right. He is losing hsi shit over it:

“Our leaders have to get a lot tougher, and be quiet. Just please be quiet,” Trump told his supporters. “Don’t talk. Please, be quiet. Just be quiet, to the leaders, because they have to get tougher, they have to get sharper, they have to get smarter, and we have to have our Republicans either stick together or let me just do it by myself.”
 
War is Hell

But this is about some missing stacks of fiat money that was printed out of thin air.

I don't think anyone is disrespecting the vast majority of the individuals in the military.
Their health, lives and soles matter! It's the MIC leadership that should be scrutinized
very closely.
 
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