Did Ron Paul show up at PaulFest?

coffeewithgames said:
So, the conclusion is that Ron Paul did not show up to PaulFest because of his campaign? There is no video/picture proof that I have seen yet that shows RP was at PaulFest (I could start photo-shopping I guess), which makes me wonder...why would a candidate ignore a rally held by his supporters simply because certain people may have been attending? He showed up at the RNC and Romney was there, Rick Santorum was there...

Maybe I'm missing something?
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Carol said they were going to get there if they were able to. Some of the family did. I had thought Ron had from a blog I saw but I haven't had any confirmation from anyone there.
 
Here is a video I found with transcript for those of you like me that don't have the best hearing. :)

Disregard the image at the end if you feel offended by it.

 
notsure said:
First of all, PaulFest was organized by a PAC. I think there might be issues with the campaign communicating with a PAC. Also, the campaign said they had conflicts with controlling the venue or something like that. I don't know what exactly was said, maybe they were talking about the security, the PAC, or something else. I've heard some people ask for PaulFest to release their ledger, so we could see exactly how everything went down and what mistakes could be corrected. I would like to know more about the sponsorship. What is a "silver sponsor"? What was the point of VIP passes? What was Liberty Unleashed PAC going to do with all the proceeds from PaulFest?
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I would apply this to the official campaign myself. Release everything. Every single internal email. Every single phone record. Every single fax. The one thing we know about the official campaign and PaulFest, is that Jesse Benton sent a text...other than that, what do we know?
Ron Paul couldn't control the RNC venue, and showed up there. Again, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, and a bunch of other people I bet RP doesn't agree with were speaking at the RNC, but yet that didn't stop him from showing up there...

sailingaway said:
I heard he did as well, or, I should say I read it in a blog of someone who was there. Huh.
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What blog? It apparently needs to be corrected.
 
Hey, what happened at Paul Fest anyways? I heard that not many people showed up.
 
Ivash said:
Hey, what happened at Paul Fest anyways? I heard that not many people showed up.
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It was a great event, with a great lineup of speakers and bands, and it was kinda sabotaged by the "official" campaign.

I publicly bitched about their "security" practices not being in line with FL law once the event was over, but had a good time overall. It could have been really BIG. It was still worth the money. Some shady shit came out after the fact. Wish i had a better summary, but that's all I got.
 
MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 said:
It was a great event, with a great lineup of speakers and bands, and it was kinda sabotaged by the "official" campaign.

I publicly bitched about their "security" practices not being in line with FL law once the event was over, but had a good time overall. It could have been really BIG. It was still worth the money. Some shady shit came out after the fact. Wish i had a better summary, but that's all I got.
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At least, explain how 'the "official" campaign' sabotaged the event?
 
notsure said:
At least, explain how 'the "official" campaign' sabotaged the event?
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Like I said, I only have a summary.

There's a 30-40 page thread on it somewhere. Obviously, that is my opinion, after reading all of that. Maybe someone can link you, but I don't know where the thread is.
 
MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 said:
Like I said, I only have a summary.

There's a 30-40 page thread on it somewhere. Obviously, that is my opinion, after reading all of that. Maybe someone can link you, but I don't know where the thread is.
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Well, that's a pretty big statement to make, without something to back it up. The only grievance I've really heard was the Benton/Schiff text. That was Bentons' personal statement to Schiff, and it didn't even work. Schiff still showed up. Are there any other people the campaign prevented from going to the event? They didn't send me an email, telling me not to go. Is that thread you're referring to 30-40 pages of proof and facts, or just 30-40 pages of someones elses' opinions? I'm not a Benton supporter, but I don't think anyone can really blame the campaign for the events failures. Some people who were involved with PaulFest were talking about making the campaign and/or Benton pay for PaulFests debts. Do you think they are justified?
 
I don't want us to get bogged down in debates about Benton vs. Paulfest, from my understanding most people have already formed an opinion on that, some saying they will not support any future political race that Benton is involved in.

The point of posting the video was to find out from those that were there if Schiff actually said some of the things that were being described by those at the beginning of that video, and if so why? And if it's true why is it that he thinks he can dump on dedicated supporters like Deb and then act upset when it's caught on camera in a public venue?
 
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For myself I will never donate in either time or money to any campaign Benton is a part of ever again.

Others, of course, are free to do as they wish. Sad all around.
 
orenbus said:
I don't want us to get bogged down in debates about Benton vs. Paulfest, from my understanding most people have already formed an opinion on that, some saying they will not support any future political race that Benton is involved in.

The point of posting the video was to find out from those that were there if Schiff actually said some of the things that were being described by those at the beginning of that video, and if so why? And if it's true why is it that he thinks he can dump on dedicated supporters like Deb and then act upset when it's caught on camera in a public venue?
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I know, but you're saying it like it's already true. Deborah could maybe clear up what was said. I will withhold judgement or cast no accusations, until the video comes out or Deb says something. I think the original video could be taken out of context, just as his response video could be taken out of context. I think there are more parties involved and more things going on here than you, I, or even Deborah really know.

Yea, maybe Schiff was going through some things and maybe a little disappointed or grumpy for some reason, so what? From the video I saw, it didn't sound like he was being mean or anything. I don't see how people can fly off the handle, based on hearsay or someone elses' opinions. I need to know all the facts before I can really come to an opinion, I don't think we will ever get the WHOLE story. I do think that Schiff was used here though, to make someone elses' point. An example was made of him, from the in-fighting.
 
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Ivash said:
Hey, what happened at Paul Fest anyways? I heard that not many people showed up.
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Morale was low after there was a rumor, which turned out to be false, that Ron wouldn't accept the nomination from the floor even if he got it. Once Ron wasn't speaking, it didn't have the draw it would have had, however, unfortunately.
 
MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 said:
It was a great event, with a great lineup of speakers and bands, and it was kinda sabotaged by the "official" campaign.

I publicly bitched about their "security" practices not being in line with FL law once the event was over, but had a good time overall. It could have been really BIG. It was still worth the money. Some shady shit came out after the fact. Wish i had a better summary, but that's all I got.
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What does that mean? Please elaborate further..

By the way, Ron Paul did NOT show up to PAUL Fest, his brother Wayne Paul and other extended family members were on site, Saturday.
 
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notsure said:
Well, that's a pretty big statement to make, without something to back it up.
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Not really. I spent a few hours of my life reading about it from people involved and formed an opinion based on statements made by others. I'm sure I form all kinds of opinions and make statements much bigger than that.


MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 said:
I publicly bitched about their "security" practices not being in line with FL law once the event was over
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RyanSebring said:
What does that mean? Please elaborate further..
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Here it is... http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...e-I-had-a-pocket-knife-legal-in-all-50-states I have not read it again since then or may even re-evaluate some things I said at the time. They may have been in line with FL law and I just found it distasteful to be searched at a liberty event, and further distasteful to be turned away for a rather simple pocket knife that is legal about anywhere. (folding knife, less than 3 inch blade length) There were no such searches at the event Ron Paul organized and spoke at. (I went to both events.)
 
How much did it cost for a ticket to attend PAULfest? How much to attend the Ron Paul Rally?
 
I lied sorry...

Full Event Pass (3 days) - regular price $70.00
Single Day Ticket - regular price $35.00

***Tent Camping Add-on $100.00:***
Includes accommodation for up to 8 campers. Check-in at Friday Noon; check-out Monday 11 AM.
Does NOT include event pass.

VIP Passes - $450.00 (limited availability)

•FREE for credentialed Delegates to the RNC
•Early Bird Price (Before June 30th) - $199.00
•After July 1st - $450.00
VIP Passes include:
•Paul Festival T-Shirt
•VIP lines for food/drink
•VIP only lounge area
•VIP first access to photos/signatures with bands and acts
•Free soda throughout event
•Special seating at select events

Discount ticket qualifications:

•Ticket holders must provide valid proof of ID/ Badge at the gate, or they will have to pay the difference for the full AT-THE-DOOR price for admittance.
•Military, students, and first responders - show badge or ID at the door.
•Veterans - show proof of service (discharge papers along w/ photo ID, or past photo of self in uniform, etc.).
•Oathkeepers - show membership card and photo ID.
 
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