DHS ransacks Florida couple's home without explanation, flashbangs cat, strips woman naked

[thoughtomator]

I wouldn't put it past them to do this just so they could see a real-life woman naked.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I wouldn't put it past them to do this just so they could see a real-life woman naked.

I'm certain that that was at least part of it. Of course, they can justify it because "officer safety", but it's really about the nekkid wymmyn.

 

[Henry Rogue]

Is there a market yet for doors that will keep the cops out?

I had that idea a couple of years ago, I guess I put that one on the back burner. But honestly with a little ingenuity anyone could make improvements to their doors. A solid door or metal door is a big improvement over a hollow wood door. Doors without windows are preferable. Replace the screws in the strike plate with srews that go all the way through the door frame into the jack stud, maybe even into the king stud, but be careful, if the door frame isn't shimmed directly behind the strike plate or very near it, you will warp the door frame and it may not latch properly. Same with the hinges. The door knobs are a weak point, but there are heavier ones on the market. If you're really serious, you could custom make a door and frame, 3/16" sheet of steel sandwiched between two layers of wood, should be pretty sturdy. But if they really want to get in, they will through windows or for some structures even the walls. It could slow them down though, at least give you enough time to put some clothes on before they humiliate and terrify you.

 

[Henry Rogue]

Edwards requested to see the agents’ identification but was not obliged. One officer pointed to his uniform that read ‘POLICE’ and allegedly said, “Isn’t this enough ID for you?”

Secret police is secret.

 

[DamianTV]

10 days later and nothing on the internet except this one article? this seems odd

You know how the MSM works. They dont report on anything that is actually important. They only report on stuff that can bias a persons perspective of whats important. Miley Cyrus's tongue, Justin Beibers haircut, bomb bomb Iran, etc.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

I wouldn't put it past them to do this just so they could see a real-life woman naked.

my ex whorebag wife was in ems. she would come home telling me stories of some of her guy workers purposly ripping open ladies shirts to "check them" to see if they were ok when it was obvious they were without doing that. she said some of them bragged about doing things like that on purpose just to see boobs. i really should turn them in but i have no proof of it other than what she told me.

 

[tod evans]

Trying to fortify doors or "turning them in" is only going to cause them to escalate..

It's their system and they're using it too their benefit.

Stopping this type of behavior will involve holding the perpetrators accountable and that's not going to happen in their courts.

 

[DamianTV]

Trying to fortify doors or "turning them in" is only going to cause them to escalate..

It's their system and they're using it too their benefit.

Stopping this type of behavior will involve holding the perpetrators accountable and that's not going to happen in their courts.

Just-Us / Unaccountable Authority

 

[Occam's Banana]

Trying to fortify doors or "turning them in" is only going to cause them to escalate..

It's their system and they're using it too their benefit.

Stopping this type of behavior will involve holding the perpetrators accountable and that's not going to happen in their courts.

"Hey, we need to start using fragmentation grenades instead of flash-bang grenades ... 'coz, you know, it's a 'war zone' out there - and our enemies are starting to fortify their emplacements ..."

 

[S.Shorland]

The Constitution is your protection...

 

[Pericles]

Trying to fortify doors or "turning them in" is only going to cause them to escalate..

It's their system and they're using it too their benefit.

Stopping this type of behavior will involve holding the perpetrators accountable and that's not going to happen in their courts.

Real pros don't breach at doors or windows, which is probably lucky for us. And let me be the first to say that if people had a sufficient number of M240 general purpose machine guns in their possession as the founders intended with the 2A, this shit would stop really quick.

 

[Henry Rogue]

"Hey, we need to start using fragmentation grenades instead of flash-bang grenades ... 'coz, you know, it's a 'war zone' out there - and our enemies are starting to fortify their emplacements ..."

Moats and boiling tar poured from the castle walls.

 

[Pericles]

 

[specsaregood]

 

[GunnyFreedom]

You think they'd get pissed if I surrounded my home with these things?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Rozsochac.JPG

 

[phill4paul]

You think they'd get pissed if I surrounded my home with these things?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Rozsochac.JPG

That's a mighty fine industrial art piece. It "speaks" to me.

 

[osan]

I had that idea a couple of years ago, I guess I put that one on the back burner. But honestly with a little ingenuity anyone could make improvements to their doors. A solid door or metal door is a big improvement over a hollow wood door. Doors without windows are preferable. Replace the screws in the strike plate with srews that go all the way through the door frame into the jack stud, maybe even into the king stud, but be careful, if the door frame isn't shimmed directly behind the strike plate or very near it, you will warp the door frame and it may not latch properly. Same with the hinges. The door knobs are a weak point, but there are heavier ones on the market. If you're really serious, you could custom make a door and frame, 3/16" sheet of steel sandwiched between two layers of wood, should be pretty sturdy. But if they really want to get in, they will through windows or for some structures even the walls. It could slow them down though, at least give you enough time to put some clothes on before they humiliate and terrify you.

I will be reinforcing my basement door with 8" heavy channel as the outer framing. Weld into it 2 x 4 heavy box as the jamb to which the hinges are affixed. Door itself is 2x4 heavy box welded into a frame and skinned with 1/2" plate on the outside and 1/8 sheet on the inside. I will forge hinges and possibly even a lock... though that last item is a hell or a lot of work. Theye will have a far less difficult time breaking throughout the concrete.

I have been contemplating exploring the armored door business for precisely the reasons captioned in this thread.

 

[Pericles]

That's a mighty fine industrial art piece. It "speaks" to me.

I also admire Gunny's taste in art.

 

[tod evans]

I will be reinforcing my basement door with 8" heavy channel as the outer framing. Weld into it 2 x 4 heavy box as the jamb to which the hinges are affixed. Door itself is 2x4 heavy box welded into a frame and skinned with 1/2" plate on the outside and 1/8 sheet on the inside. I will forge hinges and possibly even a lock... though that last item is a hell or a lot of work. Theye will have a far less difficult time breaking throughout the concrete.

I have been contemplating exploring the armored door business for precisely the reasons captioned in this thread.

Less trouble to restrict their approach....

 

[KCIndy]

And yet they were ignoring the very thing they supposedly were searching for? Attack like a savage pack of animals with no regard for life or property because they know they will not be held responsible for their own actions. One day the chickens come home to roost and the fall will be that much harder for these " agents"...

If they were looking why is it they didn't look then? See the problem I have with all of this is-- they can get a warrant and knock on the door and take these things without the hut-hutting around in black masks and destroying EVERYTHING in sight. These guys are thugs, plain and simple.

Horrifyingly, this is the "new normal." Think about it. Kicking in doors in the middle of the night. Cuffing and throwing people the the floor. Ransacking houses, breaking things at random and leaving the place a mess.

Who is doing this?

Abusing, degrading and humiliating the indigenous population completely without regard to the fact that the ones being victimized might have rights or deserve to be treated with human dignity.

Who is doing this?

The U.S. military has been trained to do EXACTLY this for over a decade now.

Iraq. Afghanistan. Any number of third world nations being "assisted" by the U.S. government.

The guys clad in body armor, helmets and masks have been trained to consider ALL people to be the enemy and deal with them accordingly. War on Drugs. War on Terrorism. In a war, the enemy - that's us, folks - have no rights.


http://www.policemag.com/channel/ca...01/military-vets-joining-law-enforcement.aspx

Military Vets Joining Law Enforcement
Combat veterans seeking police careers may do poorly on entrance exams, they may lack confidence in their skill sets, or they may have had some post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms that come out in psychological screenings. Any of these issues can keep returning military personnel from a police job, but all can be remedied. More importantly, there are people and programs in and out of the military that can help.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23886231/from-military-police-force-natural-transition

From military to police force: A natural transition?
Unlike many veterans who leave military service with no idea where their next job is coming from, Star Cazador had it all figured out -- what she would do, where she would do it, and how much she would like it. Taking a cue from fellow Marines who sought careers in law enforcement after discharge, Cazador, who grew up in San Jose, applied to the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office. It seemed to her like a natural transition.

"There is a huge comfort level," said Cazador, who served in the Marines from 2005 to 2009 and is now a Santa Clara County sheriff's deputy. "In the academy my best friends were other prior military. We knew exactly how each other's brains worked. We could just look at each other. We didn't even have to communicate."
.....
For Yeffiry Disla, 38, who is preparing for civilian life after spending four years in the Marines and 15 years in the Army, it's more like a marriage of convenience.

"(Working as) a cop would be my fallback if I can't do something else," said Disla, who has served three deployments of 10 months or longer to Iraq and Afghanistan, "simply because I was an infantryman and those are my skills. Anything you want to see in a soldier, you want to see in a policeman."