Destroying Ron Paul from within

I think we all need to try and not focus on whats wrong with the media, irs, federal reserve, the tax system etc and instead focus on whats good about Ron Paul. Instead of sending emails mentioning that the media is scared of him why not point out how many members are in his facebook group or how popular he is on youtube. Instead of focusing on how the IRS is a government racketeering operation why not focus on how Ron Paul is the most fiscally responsible member of congress. Don't point out how the federal reserve is working for the interests of large international banks instead focus on how Ron Paul wants to increase the value of the dollar and lower inflation so that we have lower interests rates and a stronger economy. Don't accuse the media of trying to hide the truth about 911 instead let them know how Ron Paul's foreign policy of non intervention will save the American tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars and how he plans to spread democracy and freedom by getting people to want to emulate us instead of spreading it through the barrel of a gun.

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Thanks TUCK...
for an excellent post...:cool:

I agree totally with you on this matter...

By focusing on what RP's MESSAGE is all about...All The Time...in Any Encounter with Any and All voters...we'll help RP The Most....

AND...in Iowa...RP delivered a full "smorgasbord " of encouraging messages all packed and ready to be delivered...By All Of Us...to the "Dormant Potential Voters...''

I'm doing this together with the Swedish RP Group....
using Emails...Postings in Forums...etc...to get our US contacts and friends to back up and vote for RP...

The Motto for us is...

"Be A RELAY POINT of RP Messages"...:cool:

Don't ADD anything...:rolleyes:
Don't SUBTRACT anything....:rolleyes:

Tell it as RP told YOU...:D

Then we'll win...:cool:

Of that I'm POSITIVE...

:cool: :) Largo :) :cool:
 
Anyone who objects to their insistence on using Ron Paul's presidential campaign as a way to push their anarchism is accused of being a neocon agent and ignored.
Pushing anarchism? I didn't really see that, though I didn't read all the post.
 
ecliptic:

Nice to hear and it was all I ever asked. We're on the same team here.
 
Great examples!

i want to distinguish between hate emails and negative emails. I am not going to be sending this email to FoxNews (much as I'd like to):

"Hey, you ignorant pricks! Shut you filthy mouths and listen for once! Ron Paul wants liberty for all. It's only me who thinks that trash like you doesn't deserve it!"

this would be "hate" mail, and I agree that it is entirely detrimental to Ron Paul's campaign. But I will not refrain from sending angry, negative emails to the powers that be.

"Watching your program last night, I was horrified by the attack on Ron Paul. Mr. Cavuto was openly hostile for no apparent reason and spent the entire interview spinning Ron Paul's words and cutting him off. It was appalling. So disgusted was I by this perversion of "journalism" that I will no longer be watching your network."

this is perfectly acceptable. I have no issues sending this to Fox, for it is an accurate and articulate expression of my anger with FoxNews. It is not hateful, but very negative. To restrict us to only positive emails would be disasterous.

"Hey Fox, you guys are sure doing a super job! I mean, golly, your programs are just fantastic. All of those spiffy graphics make my day. And that Neil Cavuto! Wowie! He sure is talented! His shows are just super-duper! But you know what'd be swell? Ron Paul would make your shows even more sup--- oh, never mind. You guys just keep up the good work!"

Perfect examples!

There's a balance between being nasty and too patronizing.

If the message is too weak to wake the person up into action, then the message is useless. If it's too strong by using cuss words and calling a person names, then the message is ALSO useless.

One has to consider the purpose of the message:

Is it to vent? To protect the ego?

Or is it to educate and solve a problem, and assist one to take action?

It just so happens I'm a copywriter. My WORDS either have an impact on the reader and causes them to act, or they don't.

The art of writing or speaking is to convey the message as strongly (with passion) as needed for a person to learn and to take positive action.

As both a statesman and writer, Ron Paul does this artfully well and with passion.

I uphold the most utter respect for this gentleman.

- SL
 
I totally agree...put ourselves in the others shoes for a second....If you are unaware of how popular a candidate is and you are in charge of writing an article, doing a news piece, or extending an invitation to a candidate you dont know much about, and then all of a sudden you get hundreds of emails and phone calls from angry people spouting obscenities about how uninformed you are and what an idiot you are for not including RP in your daily life...You will automatically assume that this candidates supporters are all angry mob type of people....It would leave a bad taste in your mouth and you would at that point probably purposely leave that candidate out or worse slam them..
I think its terrible that people were calling Ed Failor in the middle of the night shouting obscenities on his answering machine for his whole family to hear...it shows a severe bad taste in representing RP supporters as a whole (I still think Failor is an ASS)
I think from what I heard people did a great job yesterday in Iowa representing how gracious and respectful RP supporters can be, I am really glad it didnt turn into a Howard Dean style protest....

People should be writing media groups and newspapers about Ron Paul but it should be kept very respectful and ASKING not demanding to hear more about our beloved Dr.

This is a very good example of what i'm talking about. Lets all pretend for a second that you are an independent voter who decides to start a blog and report all news about the 2008 election that you find interesting. You report the simple facts on both democrats and republicans and try to be as fair as possible. One day you do an article on Romney about his past flip flops and you think of it as just another political story and go off to bed. Now when you wake up in the morning you find 122 angry emails in your inbox saying that you must be a fanatical christian, catholic, muslim, jew, atheist etc thats scared of having a mormon president and your just afraid your children will see the light and convert.

As roxic27 mentioned your first impression would be that a large chunk or majority of Romney's supporters are nothing more than an angry mob but on top of that how seriously could you take any arguments that come after that as to why Romney should be president? Who in their right mind would sit through the other 121 emails which probably contain the same anger just to read insults about their work or the network they work for? What happens is that all of the emails are highlighted and then deleted and their day goes but not without the message.

Lets not forget about why we all love Ron Paul so much, he didn't just come out and begin to point fingers, he offered real solutions that were logical and based on simple facts. He never gets angry and never raises his voice but you can hear the passion and the fire in the message without any aggression and thats how we should all be trying to spread the word of Ron Paul. We will never get far if all we do is send angry emails and call people names or discredit the work they do.

I know its the trendy thing to bash the mainstream media for a lot of its problems or its lack of coverage on important issues due to things such as corporate interests or censorship and there is some truth to that. But never forget that all media outlets from blogs to network news shows all have 2 goals that go in this order:

1. Generate advertising revenue.
2. Inform.

The problem is that the media outlets simply assume there is no genuine interest in Ron Paul because as for right now his campaign fund is below 3 million. If they don't think there is any interest in having Ron Paul appear on their program than they won't do it because they think that doing so would actually cause a loss of advertising revenue. When you compare the amount of time Ron Paul has been given in the mainstream media compared to people like Brownback, Gilmore, Huckabee, Hunter, Tancredo, and Tommy Thompson have all been given you'll realize that they aren't trying to block Paul out they just go by who they assume will generate ad revenue.

This is why Paris Hilton continues to dominate the news even though its safe to say all of the producers, writers, camera men, makeup artists, sound guys, and anyone else who works behind the scenes could all care less about her but they are willing to pay out 1 million dollars because they believe she will generate much more money in ad revenue if they do mention her. If they thought Ron Paul would do the same they would offer him 1 million dollars too.

Ron Paul has been in all republican debates except for the last 1 which probably doesn't count much considering our turnout :cool: but if the media or special interests groups were really scared of Ron Paul they could have removed him very easily with very little if any backfire. If they were scared they would never let him come on for 10 minutes of what they think is just filler content they would just give his picture to security and tell them to deny him entry. In the debates they could just say he wasn't able to clear security and had to return to his hotel.

The best way to get Ron Paul in the mainstream media is to keep the messages positive and to keep on donating what you can or getting others to donate what they can so that the media can see that support for Ron Paul is real and that by having him on for 30 minutes to explain his views in a detailed way will generate ad revenue for the company and its shareholders because there is genuine interest in his message.

By the way if you guys want to add some more weight to your message simply go the "contact us", "about us", or "investor relations" pages of the website with the article and find out who the parent company of the newspaper/tv show is and just mention that you are a share holder even if you aren't and then explain your message about Ron Paul. Believe me, it DOES carry some weight. Yea its sad and goes against the integrity of journalism but most journalists learned that they would be selling their souls for ad revenue in the first day of journalism class.
 
I think we all need to try and not focus on whats wrong with the media, irs, federal reserve, the tax system etc and instead focus on whats good about Ron Paul. Instead of sending emails mentioning that the media is scared of him why not point out how many members are in his facebook group or how popular he is on youtube. Instead of focusing on how the IRS is a government racketeering operation why not focus on how Ron Paul is the most fiscally responsible member of congress. Don't point out how the federal reserve is working for the interests of large international banks instead focus on how Ron Paul wants to increase the value of the dollar and lower inflation so that we have lower interests rates and a stronger economy. Don't accuse the media of trying to hide the truth about 911 instead let them know how Ron Paul's foreign policy of non intervention will save the American tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars and how he plans to spread democracy and freedom by getting people to want to emulate us instead of spreading it through the barrel of a gun.

Ron Paul disagrees with this.

Just watch the video of his speech at the Phoenix airport where he tells people to use dvd's and videos to educate people on the issues.

I think sending emails to MSM, though it will make them know we have caught on to them, is not the final solution to changing how they are reporting on Ron Paul. This is because the mainstream media is owned by the very establishment that is threatened by Ron Paul. For example, CBS is owned be GE, who is making billions by being one of the war's biggest arms contractors. Can we expect CBS to give fair reporting to someone who wants to end the war?

Wanna know how to hurt them? Turn off your TVs! Don't support their advertisers. Spend your time educating yourself on the issues instead. Use the internet for news. Pull your money out of corporate owned banks like B of A, owned by Rockefeller, who is one of the architects of the North American Union. And CitiCorp. Our money can be used as a very serious weapon against them. But you have to educate yourself on who "they" are.

Lastly, why is there even a thread about Ron Paul being "destroyed"? His campaign has been going better than anyone had imagined, and is growing by leaps and bounds.
 
By the way if you guys want to really know why Ron Paul isn't mentioned in the media as much as other candidates its really simple. In the media and in politics money talks and as far as the media knows Ron Paul's bank campaign fund isn't talking as loud as the others.


That's just sad.
 
The OP is absolutely right. Whether or not corruption, war-mongering, etc. is true, our point and mission of getting Ron Paul elected is not helped by sounding like raving lunatics to the other side. We need to spread the message in a way that is palatable to people. Change is scary. Revolutionary change is terrifying.
 
Frankly, I think all supporters of Ron Paul should just not bother with negative e-mails unless they have done something to slander Dr. Paul. Even with the media's golden boy Guiliani, they don't even bother covering some of the very few positive issues that he supports. All the media wants is ratings and ad revenue, and they would support Hitler if they knew they would get $$$ and get away with it. If you want to make a real difference with the MSM, then e-mail their SPONSORS, not the news org itself. They do not care what you really think.

We should just continue expanding Paul's message in person to other social groups rather than relying on the dumbed down cable news medium .
 
Wanna know how to hurt them? Turn off your TVs! Don't support their advertisers. Spend your time educating yourself on the issues instead. Use the internet for news. Pull your money out of corporate owned banks like B of A, owned by Rockefeller, who is one of the architects of the North American Union. And CitiCorp. Our money can be used as a very serious weapon against them. But you have to educate yourself on who "they" are.

Lastly, why is there even a thread about Ron Paul being "destroyed"? His campaign has been going better than anyone had imagined, and is growing by leaps and bounds.

Spot-on!
 
Ron Paul disagrees with this.

Just watch the video of his speech at the Phoenix airport where he tells people to use dvd's and videos to educate people on the issues.

I think sending emails to MSM, though it will make them know we have caught on to them, is not the final solution to changing how they are reporting on Ron Paul. This is because the mainstream media is owned by the very establishment that is threatened by Ron Paul. For example, CBS is owned be GE, who is making billions by being one of the war's biggest arms contractors. Can we expect CBS to give fair reporting to someone who wants to end the war?

Wanna know how to hurt them? Turn off your TVs! Don't support their advertisers. Spend your time educating yourself on the issues instead. Use the internet for news. Pull your money out of corporate owned banks like B of A, owned by Rockefeller, who is one of the architects of the North American Union. And CitiCorp. Our money can be used as a very serious weapon against them. But you have to educate yourself on who "they" are.

Lastly, why is there even a thread about Ron Paul being "destroyed"? His campaign has been going better than anyone had imagined, and is growing by leaps and bounds.

I understand where your coming from but there is no denying the fact that Ron Paul will have a really hard time winning the nomination unless he is featured more often in the mainstream media. Sure they might be purposely ignoring his campaign or they might not but what I do know is that sending them threatening emails full of hate and negativity won't make them want to cover him more. All it does is give off the impression that Ron Paul supporters are crazy media blamers and first impressions especially to the media are crucial.

Again I don't want to discredit or dismiss the grass roots support because it is utterly amazing how much support Ron Paul has from people of all backgrounds and political affiliations but 90% of voters are nothing but sheep who simply recite whatever the mainstream media or their friend feeds them. They won't go out and see what other candidates there are to choose from they will only focus on who the big 3 are. Thats why the 2 party system dominates politics here in the US, and as much support as Ron Paul has and how dedicated we all are to spreading his word we simply don't have enough money or people to hand out 122 million dvd's out to the voters. Not even even to provide the 51% of them that are needed with bumper stickers.

Image plays a very important role in politics and in the media which is why candidates spend so much money getting consulted by body language and speech experts so that they can come off as presidential as possible. Like I said earlier imagine if Exxon, Citi bank, JP Morgan, and Ben Bernanke the chairman of the federal reserver came to the debates holding up Romney Revolution signs. The same message is portrayed when Ron Paul supporters send off angry emails that contain nothing positive and just attack. Thats why its important to always try and stay positive no matter how much they bend the truth or try and slander Ron Paul.
 
Unfortunately it isn't just ad revenue. Murdoch has been balancing ratings/subscriptions with pushing his own agenda for a long time now. He would have a way bigger FoxNews audience if they truly were "Fair and Balanced" , but due to the millions that know that isn't the case, he loses that audience, but I guess it's worth it to him to push his (and his cohorts) agenda.

Edit: This helped the country just recently when Hannity and others attacked the immigration bill, that actually helped this country, The Murdoch/FoxNews agenda has always been against illegal immigrants (and even legal immigrants too according to an ex-foxnews manager in the outfoxed documentary).

Frankly, I think all supporters of Ron Paul should just not bother with negative e-mails unless they have done something to slander Dr. Paul. Even with the media's golden boy Guiliani, they don't even bother covering some of the very few positive issues that he supports. All the media wants is ratings and ad revenue, and they would support Hitler if they knew they would get $$$ and get away with it. If you want to make a real difference with the MSM, then e-mail their SPONSORS, not the news org itself. They do not care what you really think.

We should just continue expanding Paul's message in person to other social groups rather than relying on the dumbed down cable news medium .
 
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I am old enough to know better than the old line of "can't we just get along".
The media is the way it is and I have been raving about bias since I was 14 in 1976. Our job is to get the message out to the people of Iowa and NH ourselves. A victory in either of those two states will give Ron Paul all the media coverage he wants however it won't all be nice. If you think the stories are bad now wait until after he has pulled off an upset victory in NH. It will be Ugggly! I don't want Paul supporters dying of heart attacks before they even have a chance to vote.
I have been following the Iowa debate situation since it started but had to leave on business on the 30th so I couldn't find out what went on. I really wanted to see how many people showed up. When I got back I immediately checked into this forum and clicked on the folder titled Iowa rally. What I read was page after page of guys arguing angrily about some guy named "Jones". I have never heard of the guy. The rally turned out to be a great success but I left last night not knowing that. I was feeling that the whole campaign was a failure. It wasn't until this morning that I found out all went well.

On a constructive note I think that NH is a real possibility. Iowa not so much. I think lots and lots of effort needs to be geared toward NH. The voters of NH could be real receptive and being that it is the first primary it holds a huge amount of weight. In one day Ron Paul will be addressed as front runner Paul and it will be up to us to keep him in that position through the following primaries.
 
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