Democracy is not a dirty word -

I believe the push for the electoral college has become greater because the people KNOW they are getting cheated at the polls, they just don't fully understand how it is being done.

I also think the electoral college was more necessary before electronic communication and modern travel. Perhaps its time is past because the conditions which brought it about no longer exist.

I find it strange that you would say that. I don't see a great push for the electoral college right now. But I do see a big push for abolishing it. This would be a move toward being more democratic, as well as having government more bound by the will of the majority and less bound by the consent of the governed.
 
Instead of defending "Democracy" as a form of government, she needs to be clear that she feels that the public doesn't know what the terms Republic and Democracy mean. We need to be sensitive about that.

That's understandable.

What you need to understand is what a word means to you may not be what that word means to someone else. Yes, you need to be sensitive to the feelings of others and try to understand what they are actually expressing, not react to the word being used.
 
I find it strange that you would say that. I don't see a great push for the electoral college right now. But I do see a big push for abolishing it. This would be a move toward being more democratic, as well as having government more bound by the will of the majority and less bound by the consent of the governed.

I was typing quickly , I meant push to abolish actually.

I don't think it would mean government more bound by the will of the majority, I think it would mean government more responsive to the people as a whole as opposed to the political machine.

Given those two choices, I prefer the will of the people.
 
Why not just call it a Constitutional Republic then?

This thread was started because I perceived an over reaction to the term "democracy" and that it was being treated as a dirty word. The concept of democracy is an integral part of the Constitutional system, it won't work without it and we are seeing the consequences of that now.
 
This thread was started because I perceived an over reaction to the term "democracy" and that it was being treated as a dirty word. The concept of democracy is an integral part of the Constitutional system, it won't work without it and we are seeing the consequences of that now.
Where is the word "democracy" used in the Constitution?
 
Where is the word "democracy" used in the Constitution?

We the People of the United States=demos, kratis=rule

Since "We the People" are taking credit for the Constitution and establishing it as the rule of law.

That spells democracy folks.
 
Yes, the idea of a majority using coercive, aggressive violence on a minority in order to steal their property and liberty is very dirty.
 
We the People of the United States=demos, kratis=rule

Since "We the People" are taking credit for the Constitution and establishing it as the rule of law.

That spells democracy folks.
We are ruled by LAW, not by the majority.
 
Your vote is enforced by force. If you disagree with a vote that raises your taxes and don't pay them. Gangsters will take you away and lock you up in a cage. If you resist the gangsters, they will shoot you.

Most of modern civilization relies on voluntary cooperation. We don't need the state to enforce a tip to be given to a waitress. It is done voluntarily. Here is how the rest of society would work voluntarily: http://www.mississaugatherapy.com/FDR_Books/FDR_5_Practical_Anarchy.pdf
 
Look again.

OK. I looked again. He didn't change her words. I suppose he did quote her if you are referring just to the blue box he included using the "quote in reply" function.
 
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Democracy allowed our nation to be sold out to the highest bidder. Seeing America lose battle after battle as the liberals waged their war for the minds of the masses, and the mainstream media having soldout its journalistic integrity to wage its liberal campaign on the masses to the point of forcing the mainstream towards the sea of socialism, has this guy thinking that democracy has proven what an utter failure of an ideology it has been

For a democracy is only as strong as its people and when you have the masses led astray by propaganda that goes aganst the grain of the heritage in which this country was forged it just proves that democracy is a joke.

In the end it is not about democracy but the ideology of a people. When you have the people buying into an ideology that will permanently remove liberty from them, then no democracy in the world is going to help that people anand when that people is america then no democracy in the world is going to help the world in asuring it of liberty and freedom, because when it dies here, it dies forever for there is no power in the world that can stand to the might of the power developed by freedom to preserve freedom, freedom built it and tyrrrany just hijacked it once and for all.

the ideology of freedom has been sold out by democracy, democracy stinks, to prove it all one has to do is ask did democracy allow the majority of independant people who chose to be made dependant on the government, force the rest of the people to be made dependant as well, while having their rights replaced with having to answer to government officials regarding virtually every aspect of their lives thanks to allowing the health care agenda to supercede our bill of rights? Oh this has not happened yet... be patient...
 
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