Demand the campaign pay for a RECOUNT!

This is a waste of money. Stop blaming fraud for our loss. Spend the money and concentrate your energy on spreading the message of liberty and not staining it.
 
Electric Church said:
Originally Posted by Bradley in DC
"There are no indications we won more than 10% of the vote and eligible for any delegates. The money would be better spent in states that still have to vote. The energy is better spent preparing to win upcoming races. There is a net negative PR value."


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i agree. what does it matter WHAT energy and money you put in to the campaign if the results will just be stolen anyways?

negative PR value isn't going to mean diddly.
 
Electric Church said:
Wait for an official response from HQ first to see what they want to do. We all need time to assess the extent of this fraud.
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The problem is that the campaign is too "mellow" about everything. We need to make them STAND UP against this obvious vote tampering!

By doing so we will also PREVENT vote tampering in additional states because it will be clear that the campaign will pay for recounts!
 
Let's get all in the information first before we make such demands. Don't give these boards a bad name, we stand for justice and we are polite. We yeild our swords only when time and when precisely thrust.
 
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KewlRonduderules said:
If the campaign pays for it, they (the msm) might portray the campaign as sore losers having a tantrum.
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The attitude of keeping your head down, not asking questions and remaining obedient in the face of authority is exactly what's wrong with this country. No one wants to speak up because they might get tarred and feathered on national tv. Its pretty sad when people believe their only recourse is to do nothing.
 
Menthol Patch said:
We need to DEMAND that the campaign pay for a recount!

We cannot let this type of FRAUD against our candidate stand without people going to PRISON.

If they will steal votes in New Hampshire they will steal votes in EVERY state! We cannot let this happen!

The campaign has the money and MUST do this!

Call the official campaign and demand they pay for a recount!

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Agreed! It has been confirmed through Bev Harris at http://blackboxvoting.org that Sutton actually did have 31 votes, per their clerk person that Bev spoke to this morning, and that Sutton is now listed as having 31 votes officially. This is just one small area, people. This is NOT human error, folks. This is intentional. I have put a thread out for Greenville people to come forward too, as there are no votes from Greenville, yet we had a donor to RP in the zip code. Most people just don't want to believe that our votes do not count. Well, as you are all waking up to the world, this is part of it, unfortunately. We must have a recount. Even though I certainly do not endorse Obama, I think they might like a recount as well...
 
synthetic said:
The attitude of keeping your head down, not asking questions and remaining obedient in the face of authority is exactly what's wrong with this country. No one wants to speak up because they might get tarred and feathered on national tv. Its pretty sad when people believe their only recourse is to do nothing.
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Not saying we do nothing. Instead, have the grassroots take charge of it. Therefore, the campaign cannot be maligned in anyway.
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No, the campaign needs to stand up! They are too mellow about everything. For once they need to TAKE ACTION!

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There are no indications we won more than 10% of the vote and eligible for any delegates. The money would be better spent in states that still have to vote. The energy is better spent preparing to win upcoming races. There is a net negative PR value.


I disagree... we have proof that votes were not counted property and we should demand a recount before the evidence is destroyed. NH should have been a stronger state for Paul than Iowa. No way Guliani could have beaten Paul in NH.

We have to let them know we have the money to ask for a recount in every state, so they need to stop the funny business.
 
Menthol Patch said:
No, the campaign needs to stand up! They are too mellow about everything. For once they need to TAKE ACTION!

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Think about it critically. If you do this, it will hurt the campaign. that is a promise. Let them take action on something else- as we saw Dr. Paul on Laura Ingram yesterday- that is how the campaign and Dr. Paul takes action.

Let the grassroots handle this. This the best way!
 
If we don't demand a recount then it means that we will NEVER KNOW how good we did in New Hampshire and we will have votes stolen in every single state on Super Tuesday!

Call the official campaign and demand they pay for a recount!

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KewlRonduderules said:
Think about it critically. If you do this, it will hurt the campaign. that is a promise. Let them take action on something else- as we saw Dr. Paul on Laura Ingram yesterday- that is how the campaign and Dr. Paul takes action.

Let the grassroots handle this. This the best way!
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So you don't think they should take action when VOTES are stolen from them?

That's simply PATHETIC.
 
I personally see nothing wrong about a grassroots recount.(aside from a $67,000 charge :/)

I mean really, it should be done anyways for a great reason.

To either show that there is fruad or put it to rest and there isn't. Or maybe the machines themselves are just inaccurate junk. Who knows. Fact remains there is issues and the only way to sort this out is to hand count a few elections spuratically .
 
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Menthol Patch said:
If we don't demand a recount then it means that we will NEVER KNOW how good we did in New Hampshire and we will have votes stolen in every single state on Super Tuesday!

Call the official campaign and demand they pay for a recount!

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Listen. Stop trying to get Americans to jump the gun. It's been only 12 hours and this is too important of an issue to start screaming like mindless morons at the campaign before they've had a chance to reply to this obvious rip off.

All you're doin is feeding into the hands of the establishment moles who are trying to create divisions by wanting us to blame the campaign for everything.
 
Electric Church said:
Listen. Stop trying to get Americans to jump the gun. It's been only 12 hours and this is too important of an issue to start screaming like mindless morons at the campaign before they've had a chance to reply to this obvious rip off.

All you're doin is feeding into the hands of the establishment moles who are trying to create divisions by wanting us to blame the campaign for everything.
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I do NOT blame the campaign for everything. I think they are doing "decent."

However, this is something we must take action on NOW before the evidence is destroyed!
 
Ron Paul's name was left off of the pie chart on CNN because he was ONE POINT behind Rudy. If Ron Paul actually BEAT Rudy, then Paul's name would have been on the chart. There is a loss of respect and credibility of Paul's campaign when he isn't showing as high as he did, and further marginalization.

Every citizen has a right to vote.

Every citizen has a right to have his or her vote counted.

Even one citizen who doesn't have his or her vote counted is too much.

Clean up our elections, or admit that we do not have free and honest elections. Take your pick.
 
Bradley in DC said:
There are no indications we won more than 10% of the vote and eligible for any delegates. The money would be better spent in states that still have to vote. The energy is better spent preparing to win upcoming races. There is a net negative PR value.
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When you set an example with the fuckers responsible ie jail time, maybe they will think twice about doing it again.
 
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