Deep State Rat Lindsey Graham Trying to Throw 2022 Elections to Democrats with Abortion Move

[Madison320]

It would take an amendment to make it a federal issue. I am pro-life but I understand that simple legislation would have the same flaw that R v W had which was to usurp the issue from state control.

I'm pro choice and think the same thing.

I'd like to know how many politicians claimed "states rights" in supporting the decision to overturn Roe vs Wade and now support "federal power over states right's" which is what this Graham thing does. It seems like it was most of them. What a bunch of weasels. This is why I can't vote democrat or republican.

 

[Anti Federalist]

They are already running ads against the NH GOP senate candidate regarding this.

Almost like they had them waiting in the wings, ready to go...

That turd from SC just lost the NH Senate race for the idiot GOP.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Yeah, Democrats are having a great time with it. But they say all politics is local, and the GOP within South Carolina's legislature recently went through a failed attempt to put a near total ban on abortion in Graham's state. Might there any connection between the two?

Certainly, it might be popular in certain regions. It may be popular in Graham's state. But Graham is not up for re-election right now, and the timing is highly suspect.

Thus, the reasoning likely has more to do with other agendas than just his re-election. I would dare say that he is helping Democrats in swing states, which mostly have Trump supported GOP candidates. The neocon-establishment cabal is known for this kind of sabotage. It reeks of Karl Rove and Mitch McConnell. It doesn't take Watters to point this fact out.

Additionally, my personal hypothesis is that the neocons have a longer term plan, and this action by Graham would be consistent with that:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...o-Reconstitute-and-Co-opt-Social-Conservatism

The abortion debate has been re-opened and is being fought in 50 different state battles, each of which is going to bubble up and cause impacts at the federal level. And it's no longer the absolute pro-life/pro-choice debate - because neither of those can prevail. It's going to be about the murky, unprincipled middle: how long after conception can they be performed, rape exceptions, incest exceptions, life of the mother exceptions, how much can the state muddle in your medical affairs. And each of those 50 debates will be heard and reacted to nationally. The butterfly wings flapping in South Carolina and Indiana are going to impact the races in Ohio and New Hampshire and everywhere else. There are now 50 times as many opportunities for the discussion to get started as there used to be - and each started discussion is going to snowball into a nationwide debate. Voters in New Hampshire are going to be debating what those horrible Republicans did in South Carolina (and we have to keep them out of office here, or they'll do the same thing).

And all the totalitarians want their own rules imposed nationwide, globally and universally. So much for states rights.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

They are already running ads against the NH GOP senate candidate regarding this.

Almost like they had them waiting in the wings, ready to go...

That turd from SC just lost the NH Senate race for the idiot GOP.

I have no doubt that's the intention. In the eyes of the neocons and establishment, a Democrat is preferable to a Trump Republican, a libertarian Republican or a true small government fiscal conservative.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Nothing is built to last long in the USA. Laws change when the majority selects law changers. There are no real absolutes, merely opinions.

That's why there's a process for making amendments to the Constitution, and there's a reason why it isn't meant to be a simple majority.

 

[Snowball]

That's why there's a process for making amendments to the Constitution, and there's a reason why it isn't meant to be a simple majority.

The super-majority principle applies to that procedure, every step along the way from 2/3 to 3/4, and it's all performed by majoritarian politicians.

 

[nobody's_hero]

The super-majority principle applies to that procedure, every step along the way from 2/3 to 3/4, and it's all performed by majoritarian politicians.

I'm not really sure what you're arguing, so I'm gonna withdraw from this debate based on the premise that you're either missing my point, or your being deliberately obtuse.

I'm saying that it should take more than a simple majority to decide something like this, which is all that passing a law requires. If they want to amend the US constitution so that the federal government can consider the topic of abortion, then they will need more than a simple majority because they will need to amend it first, otherwise it is left to the states.

 

[Snowball]

I'm not really sure what you're arguing, so I'm gonna withdraw from this debate based on the premise that you're either missing my point, or your being deliberately obtuse.

I'm saying that it should take more than a simple majority to decide something like this, which is all that passing a law requires. If they want to amend the US constitution so that the federal government can consider the topic of abortion, then they will need more than a simple majority because they will need to amend it first, otherwise it is left to the states.

It's not automatically up to the states. It can be a federal law. There are over 30,000 federal laws passed by Congress and active.
If you need an example just look at Prohibition. Federal alcohol ban.

 

[Cleaner44]

Lindsey Graham is a RINO turd that only wants to protect DC.

 

[Anti Globalist]

I would greatly apppreciate it if Graham can kindly fuck off and never show his face in public.

 

[nobody's_hero]

It's not automatically up to the states. It can be a federal law. There are over 30,000 federal laws passed by Congress and active.
If you need an example just look at Prohibition. Federal alcohol ban.

So the 10th Amendment just doesn't exist?

I don't think you understand how the Constitution is supposed to work.

Yeah I'm done.

 

[Snowball]

So the 10th Amendment just doesn't exist?

I don't think you understand how the Constitution is supposed to work.

Yeah I'm done.

I probably don't disagree with you on anything about how the Constitution is "supposed to work". I'm only saying that this matter CAN be subject to Federal Law because that is the reality of the situation until it is not. Otherwise, Graham wouldn't be introducing the bill. Just like the 1,000+ other bills and proposals having to do with abortion that have moved though the halls of Congress!
https://www.congress.gov/search?q={"source":"all","congress":"117","search":"abortion"}

 

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1590376558577225728

 

[AngryCanadian]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Government is big daddy to many unmarried women.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/romopar/status/1605335624889901056

 

[Anti Globalist]

Something tells me Lindsey Graham and other neocons and RINOs will be making these kinds of moves two years from now.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It's such a shame that the red wave didn't happen. Lindsey Graham is all broken up over the fact that he had to vote "yea" for a Democrat Omnibus:

U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) today made the following statement after voting in favor of the end of year spending bill.

“This bill is a big win for the American military. It gives a much-needed boost to the Department of Defense and a well-deserved pay raise to our men and women in uniform. A ten percent increase in defense spending will add real dollars to our defense budget. The legislation also contains vital aid to Ukraine to deal a decisive defeat to Putin in his war of aggression. I’m also pleased my amendment with Senator Whitehouse was adopted that allows the proceeds from confiscated property from Russian oligarchs to be sent to Ukraine to support their efforts to rebuild their country. This over time could be billions of dollars for Ukrainian war efforts.

 

[Occam's Banana]

A ten percent increase in defense spending will add real dollars to our defense budget

Is this asshole trying to be funny?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Is this asshole trying to be funny?

Nope, just being an asshole.

Next he'll be on Sean Shamity's show, begging for money.

This clown is worse than Jim Bakker, and twice as *****.