Dec. 16th too late? Campaign needs money NOW...

[literatim]

I think the 16th was a mistake, to be totally honest with everyone. It's a great theme ... I don't dispute that, but I think it is pretty late in the Campaign, compared to Iowa and New Hampshire.

If we would have dropped this big money bomb in very early December, like the 1st or 2nd ... then we would have more time to place the ads, and would get another burst of publicity, so the voters would have time to research our candidate.

The 16th was chosen because we donated about 4.3 million not so long ago. People have mouths to feed and bills to pay.

 

[The Only Woj]

if they want money for something SPECIFIC, we'll donate.

if they say, hey, we just bought 2 million in ads today and we NEED 2 million, we'll step up and make that happen.

but the 16th is our day.

 

[jrich4rpaul]

We are way, way ahead of schedule. The campaign has more than what they planned on. They can make it.

If they need the money, they'll let us know.

Otherwise, stop with these f'ing threads.

 

[Midnight77]

We are way, way ahead of schedule. The campaign has more than what they planned on. They can make it.

If they need the money, they'll let us know.

Otherwise, stop with these f'ing threads.

^^^ Um, they just did let us know. Did you see the letter?

The 16th was chosen because we donated about 4.3 million not so long ago. People have mouths to feed and bills to pay.

Agreed. But by doing one at the very beginning of December, this would give everyone enough time to save up and give the campaign more time to place their ads. The 16th is very late in the game. Great theme ... but very late in the game.

 

[integrity]

Give now!!!

I urge everyone to give now if they got it! Lets totally blow hucky out of the water while we are at it....

http://ronpaulgraphs.com/rp_vs_huck_today.html

stick it on your credit card....... cheaper presents for xmas all around, but one big freedom present is worth it!

 

[Bigboyen]

It seems like a nice bluff. It's to get people to donate as much they can, since they anyway will donate on the 16th.

It's no way the campaign will use 14 million in New Hampshire and Iowa. If that's the plan they will need 100 million to get through Super Tuesday.

But it's nothing wrong with pushing to get donations

 

[Man from La Mancha]

Again, where is the transparency? We are ahead of what they wanted, I don't understand this. Are they spending their money wisely, are they getting the discounts they should? Just looked what happened with the Philly rally, they were going to get charged over a $100,000 to use independence sq. but thanks to the grassroots we got it much cheaper. Without transparency we can't help and they could be wasting vast sums of our money.

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[MalcolmGandi]

I can agree that the 16th is a bit late, but the advantage is that it will be fresh in the minds of the voters when they go to the polls. Also, it gives everyone time to stabilize their finances after Nov 5. Why not get a second job for a while? Pizza delivery pays pretty good, and hours are very flexible.

 

[Mithridates]

I urge everyone to give now if they got it! Lets totally blow hucky out of the water while we are at it....

http://ronpaulgraphs.com/rp_vs_huck_today.html

stick it on your credit card....... cheaper presents for xmas all around, but one big freedom present is worth it!

Yep, I was wondering that myself when I woke up (I live in Asia) and checked my email. Lo and behold, it's working:

I wonder if the goal of the email wasn't to show that RP's followers can blow Huckabee's planned money bomb out of the water with a single impromptu email.

 

[Corydoras]

Paying staffers is very, very, very expensive. I think that that is probably what is eating up their money other than the advertising campaigns.

 

[Shaun]

Everyone: STAY FOCUSED on Dec 16th. It is so VITAL in this campaign that words can't describe it. I run a company with hundreds of people working for us all over the world, we have had thousands of media stories written about our company and our Live Gaming invention, I can tell you this I would never, EVER let a numbers guy get anywhere near my marketing or PR area. Neither would any of my other business CEO friends out of Los Angeles or Hollywood. Ever. It's a total disconnect. Finance guys just don't get PR. I'll put it bluntly; If Ron raises 10milllion on December 16th. I believe he will then have a real chance at the nomination. If he raises over 7 million I believe he'll have a slightly lower chance. IF THE EVENT didn't go ahead or if it bombed then I believe that it's over for Ron Paul.
The guy who wrote the letter needs to wake up to the reality of RP being asked to do interview after interview all over America in the run up to the first Primaries.
Anything else other than a full, frontal all out promotion of Dec 16th is madness.
So, let's regroup and focus in behind the team and move to 30,000 pledges and raise the 10m and make history.
Let's go get em..'
*U** YOU FRANK!

 

[JoeTB]

Ron asked for money today. He needs money today. He's getting it from me.

 

[Johncjackson]

In October alone, we raised $2.8 million, but our campaign spent over $3.1 million.

AND you already had $5 mil + in hand. So you aren't going into debt. Thats the whole point, you are supposed to be spending that $5 mil+ from last quarter, not hording it. Plus November has around $ 6 mil so far. Not going into debt any time soon.

To be blunt, if the campaign is spending the money wisely it should be bringing in fresh donors and new money. I thought this was the case. if it isn't there are serious problems.

There are news stories about how "tightfisted" the campaign is, and there have only been a couple semi-large expenditures. Granted, the campaign is adding staff, but it is still very frugal compared to the other first tier.

If they actually spent the money NOW, it should bring in so much more money and they know they can count on the Money bombs and grassroots support.

Not to mention grassroots out there spending their own money on advertising. IMHO, the campaign needs to step something up or else it's going to look like Alen Hacker is the campaign manager.

I am very supportive of the campaign and hope everyone who wants to give now, gives NOW. but i'm just being honest.

p.s. Also, even though it may be a "surprise" to some people, RP has ALWAYS been a very good fundraiser, IMHO. He has always had a nationwide base of fans and supporters. Despite any criticism on my part, I think they know what they are doing.

 

[JustAnotherV]

Dec 4th specifically Iowa

I think this is a brilliant idea! Maybe a "Paint your Town Ron" type event? It still seems his biggest problem is name recognition.

Most specifically I had posted about massing in Iowa to get press and recognition there in the vacuum of the cancelled debate.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=38032


This seemed to fizzle after a bit with no response form the campaign. There is also apparently another debate nearby on the 12th, but my point here and there is that there is not enough time for "the next week" to be satisfactory.

I honestly think this campaign would have a lot better shot if we had a few extra months, but we don't, so a chance to really get Iowa voter and media attention as well as get on Iowa's good side is crtical.

Iowa + nearby meetups could run with it some, but the campaign really needs to be on board for any Q&A/debate type thing or even a super-sized rally.

 

[mathamagician]

The single largest positive event for this campaign was November 5th. If you want to give now fine but please don't take away from the December 16th day! This will be the day that blows away everyone.

If the campaign really needs the money now they could easily get a line of credit with a bank to focus that money now.

I think it's a bad move to undermine the December 16th thing. Remember this guy who's focus is conventional campaigning and I respect that but the Revolution wasn't spread by conventional campaigning it was spread by us and by the words of Paul himself.

So again I urge to NOT reduce your contribution on December 16th!

The OP is right, remember how we got here November 5th. and no Ron Paul did NOT ask you for money today a guy named Jonathan Bydlak did. Jonathan did not get Ron Paul to where he is now. Ron Paul's words combined with our hard work got him to where he is now. Please do not take away from the 16th!

 

[Brutus]

I gave something today. I'll give on the 16th.

 

[AlexK]

That's weird... I thought the campaign barely spent any money. But suddenly then need more money TODAY?

Either way, they're actually ahead of their goal (they only needed to reach 8M this month), so wtf is the problem? I think it's pretty fucked up that the official campaign is undermining this possibly historical fund-raising opportunity.

 

[all J's in IL for RP]

Whatever cash is raised Dec 16th will be allocated towards Super Tuesday... But in order for it to be of any value, he must already have huge momentum from the early primaries. Purposely denying the campaign funding needed to build an organization and buy media access necessary to generating that momentum in order to make a shallow media splash a month from now makes little sense.

I'll give today. If I have any to give Dec 16th, I'll give then too.

 

[lbadragan]

Someone who is paid for fundraising will ask for funds. Even if Paul would have 50 million in the bank, we would've got that email today.

No fundraising manager will stand by and allow someone else (us) to do "his" job, even if that's best for the campaign. Because face it, raising $10,000,000 on 12/16 means 50 million in publicity. But at the end of the day a fundraiser will try to raise funds.

That being said, I answered the call and made a donation today. Let's just flex our muslces a little bit to let them know we'll be there at the December 16th show.

 

[AlexK]

Whatever cash is raised Dec 16th will be allocated towards Super Tuesday... But in order for it to be of any value, he must already have huge momentum from the early primaries. Purposely denying the campaign funding needed to build an organization and buy media access necessary to generating that momentum in order to make a shallow media splash a month from now makes little sense.

I'll give today. If I have any to give Dec 16th, I'll give then too.

The point is that there's no indication that they're running out of money. They've raised more than they could imagine.

And are you calling Nov 5th a "shallow media splash"? He got tons of publicity just because of that day.