Dec. 16th too late? Campaign needs money NOW...

The infrastructure to do this is already in place.

Guys, the infrastructure to do this is already in place.

It just hasn't gotten nearly as much attention as the major money b0mbs.

Go sign up at www.ronpaulmoneybomb.com and donate $25 a week. Heck, give more if you want! The idea is to get at least 40,000 people signed up, which will cause money injections of $1 million per week.

If you haven't signed up there already, just do it! Spread it far and wide.
 
From the Ron Paul Campaign Email:
"If you wait a month from now to donate, your money will only be spent after Iowa caucus-goers and New Hampshire primary voters have made up their minds."

It seems to me that the campaign is telling people, fairly directly, that if they were going to wait until the mid-December Tea Party to donate, to donate now instead.

This is a more activist role than the campaign has generally taken to date.

I've been saying that the Ron Paul campaign progress is fantastic (money raised, poll numbers, etc.) but needs to be accelerated (IMHO)
Link: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=37402

I for one am very glad that the campaign (and by extension Ron Paul himself) are being very realistic. What sort of President would he make otherwise?
 
Indeed, if we think the main impetus behind the Dec 16th money drive is to win some desperately needed media attention, we've lost focus. He ought to have a bigger profile by that time and the campaign is right to point this out.
 
Give Now....Dec 16th is too late!

They are saying their spending has accelerated and they need the money now what they plan to do in Dec. The campaign has clearly asked for people to not wait until Dec 16th on their donations. They know their plans better than we do.
 
I have seen an issue raised on several threads along the lines of "Why can't Dr. Paul just take out a bank loan to run the campaign to December 16th?" The question that doesn't get asked is "Would the banking system loan money to someone who is a supporter or sound money, and has vowed to terminate the Federal Reserve?"

I would like to suggest that there is no way that any bank is going to be allowed to fund the campaign of a candidate who intends to put a stop to their fraudulent practices.

Send Dr. Paul money now and send him some money later. He's putting his life on the line by taking on the banking cartel. The least we can do is jump when he says jump.
 
I think this is just because fundraising has fallen flat over the last week or so.

They have PLENTY of cash on hand. Think of it this way.

Oct1 - 5.4Mil cash on hand
Oct30 - 2.8mil raised, 3.1mil spent = 5.1mil cash on hand
Nov - ??? spent, 5.9mil raised = 11Mil cash on hand minus expenses.

Figure they've spend 3mil sofar this year, that lives 8mil cash on hand. That's enough for the time being until the HUGE amount of money the teaparty will bring.
 
$5.3 Million on hand at end of Quarter + $2.8 Million in October raised = $8.1 Million on hand

$8.1 Million on hand - $3.1 Million spent in October = $5 Million on hand at beginning of November.

$5 Million on hand + $6 Million approx. raised in November so far = $11 Million on hand.

So my question is, why are they acting like they are broke?

LOL didn't realize you did this before me hahahaha
 
They're not broke but spending a few million has only bumped them up a few percentage points (they are climbing) so they may need to spend more heavily now. Primaries are in short number of weeks, relatively speaking.
 
I would bet that the cost of TV ads in NH, IA, NV and SC are through the roof right now - I wouldn't put it past the TV stations to raise the rates considerably in the months before a primary. And lets face it - radio and print ads are great, but to really play the game you have to be able to afford TV. Lots and lots of TV.

Look at good ol' Mitt - that boy can write himself a check whenever he wants. Ron Paul doesn't have that luxury.

And the email from campaign HQ is, sadly, correct - if Dr. Paul is going to win in Iowa or New Hampshire, the Paul campaign needs to start the ad blitz NOW.

On of the reasons Dr. Paul is so popular is his frugal style. He's not going to spend money he doesn't have, whether it is in a campaign OR as president. Let's not let the man down.

From now on, I'm sending in $50 per week, starting now. I'll keep it up until I "max out." If that means a little less on 16 December, so be it... although I'll certainly try to triple or quadruple the donation on that date.

One more thing - there are A LOT of people signed up for the Tea Party who AREN'T members of this forum - so the Tea Party will be a success even if everyone reading these words sends in half their planned "Tea Party" donation... today!

C'mon. Let's give 'em a boost and get the TV ads kicked off right!
 
And the email from campaign HQ is, sadly, correct - if Dr. Paul is going to win in Iowa or New Hampshire, the Paul campaign needs to start the ad blitz NOW.

On of the reasons Dr. Paul is so popular is his frugal style. He's not going to spend money he doesn't have, whether it is in a campaign OR as president. Let's not let the man down.

Woo-hoo! I don't want to let him down. I just donated $50 and bought one of the really cool new fleece jackets for $50. I'm so glad they finally came out with winter wear! :-)
 
Why we need more alterative methods

First off, he needs to just spend the money he has. This extra-conservative spending crap needs to stop. We all love Ron Paul but he is still trailing signiificantly and he needs to spend his money as if he is in an early primary battle, because at this point we can't be sure it will stay viable through that point. He needs the solid showing to continue to survive as viable past January/Super Tuesday.


Second, and maybe more important for us, this is exactly why just thinking of fundraiser ideas is not enough. Timing, amount of money, etc., etc. We need press and we need people and there are additional (note, not mutually exclusive) ways to do that.

While it's nice that RP can raise money, my guess is that an inordinately high number of his supporters are actually donating already, which leaves some people cleaned out for more donations. We need both new recruits and media attention that IS NOT FROM A MONEY BOMB.

This is why I thought we should push for a press-attention-getting substitute event on December 4th. We have not much time to think of ways to get Ron Paul large and POSITIVE press coverage and that was a meat ball for some political jujitsu. Some people said it sounded OK and then it was dropped, and no answer from campaign staff. The window is about gone at this point, oh well.

There are two things being fumbled here: 1) The campaign staff is too reliant on grassroots supporters and is not coming up with much for good strategy of its own (even to the extent of just having RP discuss his views on certain subjects more to respond to voter concerns), and 2) online grass roots supporters are too busy patting themselves on the back, particularly for the 5th, and are not thinking outside the box. All they want to do is repeat the same thing again.


It is aggravating to not have more time to devote to this cause while watching the opportunity go by, but as it stands I have enough trouble getting the time just to make posts like this. This may or may not be ignored, but BOTH sides of the campaign are lacking the effectiveness of the trained political machines that we are up against, and we need to compensate. We need to be quick, bold, aggressively pursue any possibilities for exposure while remaining POLITE and SENSIBLE which some people occasionally also forget. We need the press and they are not going to come on board via slews of complaint spam every time their coverage isn't that hot, and we need to reach more people offline, with or without the media, even if we have to find free ways to do it.
 
$5.3 Million on hand at end of Quarter + $2.8 Million in October raised = $8.1 Million on hand

$8.1 Million on hand - $3.1 Million spent in October = $5 Million on hand at beginning of November.

$5 Million on hand + $6 Million approx. raised in November so far = $11 Million on hand.

So my question is, why are they acting like they are broke?

cause this is a frugal campaign and their scared/nervous. And they have to pay a bunch of minimum wage people to make phone calls to voters that we should be calling for them.
 
Guys, the infrastructure to do this is already in place.

It just hasn't gotten nearly as much attention as the major money b0mbs.

Go sign up at www.ronpaulmoneybomb.com and donate $25 a week. Heck, give more if you want! The idea is to get at least 40,000 people signed up, which will cause money injections of $1 million per week.

If you haven't signed up there already, just do it! Spread it far and wide.

Absolutely brilliant. I have never seen this before and am planning on joining up. I don't know why people are bitching about this situation. If the campaign says they need cash then who the hell are we to doubt them?
 
I'll second this.

First off, he needs to just spend the money he has. This extra-conservative spending crap needs to stop. We all love Ron Paul but he is still trailing signiificantly and he needs to spend his money as if he is in an early primary battle, because at this point we can't be sure it will stay viable through that point. He needs the solid showing to continue to survive as viable past January/Super Tuesday.


Second, and maybe more important for us, this is exactly why just thinking of fundraiser ideas is not enough. Timing, amount of money, etc., etc. We need press and we need people and there are additional (note, not mutually exclusive) ways to do that.

While it's nice that RP can raise money, my guess is that an inordinately high number of his supporters are actually donating already, which leaves some people cleaned out for more donations. We need both new recruits and media attention that IS NOT FROM A MONEY BOMB.

This is why I thought we should push for a press-attention-getting substitute event on December 4th. We have not much time to think of ways to get Ron Paul large and POSITIVE press coverage and that was a meat ball for some political jujitsu. Some people said it sounded OK and then it was dropped, and no answer from campaign staff. The window is about gone at this point, oh well.

There are two things being fumbled here: 1) The campaign staff is too reliant on grassroots supporters and is not coming up with much for good strategy of its own (even to the extent of just having RP discuss his views on certain subjects more to respond to voter concerns), and 2) online grass roots supporters are too busy patting themselves on the back, particularly for the 5th, and are not thinking outside the box. All they want to do is repeat the same thing again.


It is aggravating to not have more time to devote to this cause while watching the opportunity go by, but as it stands I have enough trouble getting the time just to make posts like this. This may or may not be ignored, but BOTH sides of the campaign are lacking the effectiveness of the trained political machines that we are up against, and we need to compensate. We need to be quick, bold, aggressively pursue any possibilities for exposure while remaining POLITE and SENSIBLE which some people occasionally also forget. We need the press and they are not going to come on board via slews of complaint spam every time their coverage isn't that hot, and we need to reach more people offline, with or without the media, even if we have to find free ways to do it.
 
You can't go by what the FEC website says. I donated 4 times already, the longest about a month ago and I'm not on the website as a donor and I searched by city and by zip code.

Apparently the FEC website isn't "real time" numbers... and from my information is at least a month behind....

We all talk about Dr. Paul's honesty. If they say they need money now, *they need money now*.
 
You can't go by what the FEC website says. I donated 4 times already, the longest about a month ago and I'm not on the website as a donor and I searched by city and by zip code.

Apparently the FEC website isn't "real time" numbers... and from my information is at least a month behind....

We all talk about Dr. Paul's honesty. If they say they need money now, *they need money now*.

I'm more than a little bothered by that. I've made 7 separate donations totalling $2200 (the first donation way back on June 7.) I know they've gotten the money because the charges hit my credit card right on schedule. But my name doesn't show up in the FEC database either. I can only give another $100; may as well do it now :)
 
I think the 16th was a mistake, to be totally honest with everyone. It's a great theme ... I don't dispute that, but I think it is pretty late in the Campaign, compared to Iowa and New Hampshire.

If we would have dropped this big money bomb in very early December, like the 1st or 2nd ... then we would have more time to place the ads, and would get another burst of publicity, so the voters would have time to research our candidate.
 
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