Debate

[Kludge]

ah yes another ron paul supporter attempts to change the subject. Democrats do not love che,but at least they do not slander there opponents in order to gain support.

 

[karl marx]

If giving Rosa Parks a gold medal is inherently unconstitutional, then why would Ron Paul (falsely) offer to chip in his own funds? Is Ron Paul a fan of donating to unconstitutional causes, or does he realize that his claims on constitutionality are bullshit? And don't say, 'it's unconstitutional because it uses taxpayer dollars,' because it didn't.

 

[Kludge]

If giving Rosa Parks a gold medal is inherently unconstitutional, then why would Ron Paul (falsely) offer to chip in his own funds? Is Ron Paul a fan of donating to unconstitutional causes, or does he realize that his claims on constitutionality are bullshit? And don't say, 'it's unconstitutional because it uses taxpayer dollars,' because it didn't.

Coercive theft of taxpayers' money vs. voluntary donation by those who absolutely want the medal given.

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

yeah But congressional medals are not tax payer funded.

Comrade, I proved above that tax dollars DO IN FACT pay for the medal.

Did YOU read the bill?

 

[LibertyEagle]

If giving Rosa Parks a gold medal is inherently unconstitutional, then why would Ron Paul (falsely) offer to chip in his own funds? Is Ron Paul a fan of donating to unconstitutional causes, or does he realize that his claims on constitutionality are bullshit? And don't say, 'it's unconstitutional because it uses taxpayer dollars,' because it didn't.

Where in the Constitution does it give Congress the authority to issue gold medals to private citizens, funded from other people's pockets?

BTW, you didn't prove anything about the funding of the medals. From what you posted alone, it looks like they are hoping to recoup the $30k that they spend on the medal, from the FUTURE sale of replicas. But, the hopeful sale of the replicas, would be occurring AFTER they had already spent the money on the gold medal. Where do you think that money came from anyway?

 

[Jeremy]

Are we talking about the Rosa Parks thing here? If I remember correctly, Ron Paul spoke on this issue and suggested each representative chip in to pay for it out of their own walltets. So you see, Ron Paul was really being selfless: putting others before himself. This is also why he gives back part of his salary.

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

The $30,000 authorized by HR 573 is essentially a taxpayer loan to pay for the medal, monies stolen from the Public TRUST.
Whether the US Mint makes that money back through the sale of replicas is irrelevant.

RPRA (Ron Paul Right Again)

 

[devil21]

It seems karl is ignoring the posts that destroy his assertions and moves on to some other minute detail to argue about. That's not "debating" karl, that's trolling. How about you address my post on page 6?

 

[brandon]

I think the government should also send flowers to women who lose their children. They should start a Public Department of Floristry. Maybe they could also send balloons to anyone who loses a tooth. And we could have congressional platinum trophies for the winner of American Idle! These are all great ideas. Thanks for shining a light on this karl marx. I never realized how cool it would be for our federal government to do all these things.

Hell, maybe they could send birthday presents to my parents when I forget to buy them something.

 

[pacelli]

It seems karl is ignoring the posts that destroy his assertions and moves on to some other minute detail to argue about. That's not "debating" karl, that's trolling. How about you address my post on page 6?

Agreed. He just moves from this thread to the one he has on "bad reporting" with the exact same issues. Seems he's double-trolling.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I think the government should also send flowers to women who lose their children. They should start a Public Department of Floristry. Maybe they could also send balloons to anyone who loses a tooth. And we could have congressional platinum trophies for the winner of American Idle! These are all great ideas. Thanks for shining a light on this karl marx. I never realized how cool it would be for our federal government to do all these things.

Hell, maybe they could send birthday presents to my parents when I forget to buy them something.

lololol

 

[Lucille]

ah[sic] yes [sic] another ron paul[sic] supporter attempts to change the subject. Democrats do not love che,[sic]but at least they do not slander there [sic] opponents in order to gain support.

I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. WTF are you talking about?! LOL!

Look, princess -- you can't even engage in a "debate" without getting your talking points from some stupid blog. "How to Nail a Paultard, Part 1: The Rosa Park Medal"


Can everyone just stop indulging this Marxist now? Don't even dignify this ..... with even one more response.

Comrade, I proved above that tax dollars DO IN FACT pay for the medal.

They absolutely are paid for by the taxpayers. Of course they turned down Ron's offer to all chip-in and pay for it themselves. It's much easier for those thieving criminals in CONgress to spend our (stolen) money rather than their own.

 

[karl marx]

Comrade, I proved above that tax dollars DO IN FACT pay for the medal.

Did YOU read the bill?

Did you read the bill?

Funded through the sales of replicas,and secondly the US mint is self funded.

http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/
Since Congress created the United States Mint on April 2, 1792, it has grown tremendously. The United States Mint receives more than $1 billion in annual revenues. As a self-funded agency, the United States Mint turns revenues beyond its operating expenses over to the General Fund of the Treasury.

The United States Mint applies world-class business practices in
making, selling, and protecting our Nation’s coinage and assets.
— U.S. Mint Strategic Plan

 

[devil21]

Come on karl, Im still waiting for your response to my page 6 post where you explain which came first, the chicken or the egg. I'm waiting.

 

[JK/SEA]

Karl is working it today. My take is he/she is a McCain supporter, and harbors ill will towards those of us who are in fact waking people up, and well, i beleive he /she reflects the fear the NEOCONS have towards this movement. The 'issues' he/she is bringing up have been addressed, and are irrelevant as debatable topics.

Classic troll.

Ron Paul is not a racist. If anyone has any REAL proof, other than silly smear pieces that ANYONE can type out and print, lets see it.

Carry on.

Un-opposed PCO in Washington State, and State Delegate for Ron Paul.

 

[MikeSmith]

Did you read the bill?

Funded through the sales of replicas,and secondly the US mint is self funded.

http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/
Since Congress created the United States Mint on April 2, 1792, it has grown tremendously. The United States Mint receives more than $1 billion in annual revenues. As a self-funded agency, the United States Mint turns revenues beyond its operating expenses over to the General Fund of the Treasury.

The United States Mint applies world-class business practices in
making, selling, and protecting our Nation’s coinage and assets.
— U.S. Mint Strategic Plan

The Fed/Banks pay for the US mint to press money... how do you think they get that money? Seriously, read more please.

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

Did you read the bill?

Funded through the sales of replicas,and secondly the US mint is self funded.

http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/
Since Congress created the United States Mint on April 2, 1792, it has grown tremendously. The United States Mint receives more than $1 billion in annual revenues. As a self-funded agency, the United States Mint turns revenues beyond its operating expenses over to the General Fund of the Treasury.

The United States Mint applies world-class business practices in
making, selling, and protecting our Nation’s coinage and assets.
— U.S. Mint Strategic Plan

That's their hope, but Ron was factually correct when he stated taxpayer dollars paid for it - hence your entire argument is intellectually void.

You god/government education didn't do much for your intellectual development, and knowing the definition of what a PUBLIC TRUST is.

Your cut n' paste from the US Mint is irrelevant to HR 573. So the mint makes money. Swell. I hope we got our money back.

 

[driller80545]

So again we see that the government is in business for itself and competing with tax payer money. Here is the source of the problem in this discussion, not the silliness this hard head keeps spewing.

 

[karl marx]

That's their hope, but Ron was factually correct when he stated taxpayer dollars paid for it - hence your entire argument is intellectually void.

You god/government education didn't do much for your intellectual development, and knowing the definition of what a PUBLIC TRUST is.

Your cut n' paste from the US Mint is irrelevant to HR 573. So the mint makes money. Swell. I hope we got our money back.

If the US mint is tax payer funded at the core, then the boy scout medal would be tax payer funded as well?


you can buy the Rosa Parks medal for 38$

I'm a consumer who pays income tax, property tax, and sales tax in the late 90s. Please explain to me how my money goes from me to the government collection agency to the funding of this medal.

 

[revolutionman]

The idea that Revolutionaries shy away from debate is really entirely comical. For crying out loud, one our biggest vehicles has been going out and trying to confront the Establishment. Unfortunately 1/2 the time we get a cold shoulder. Fascists and socialists cant hang with Libertarians. They don't have a a prayer, because almost every position they support is in defiance of the premier legal document of ths USA.