De Niro axes anti-vaccination film from Tribeca after scrutiny

There has not been any link established between vaccines and autism. There is a correlation (correlation is not necessarily causation) between the age of a parent and having an autistic child. His autistic son is 18 and De Nero is 72 meaning he had his son when he was 54.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/parents-age-childs-autism-risk/

Yes. He said he changed his mind about the value of the documentary after hearing from people of science from across the globe. It is refreshing to know that there are some people who will change their opinions when facts are discussed.
 
Yes, that is one thing that for some reason, some folks just aren't comprehending....they made up their minds on false scientific evidence that it's the vaccines, and nothing will ever open them...crazy. Sounds like Mr DeNiro has realized that the study has been discredited, and is smart enough to back out....

Not only that - he was hired specifically to manipulate the data to scare parents off the MMR so that his company could market their single dose vaccines. That isn't a theory, that is not an unfounded conspiracy, it is his own testimony.

And now here he is, cashing in again, this time via the box office.

But he's their high holy priest. It's bizarro-world.
 
Flashback:

British Court Throws Out Conviction of Autism/Vaccine MD: Andrew Wakefield’s Co-Author Completely Exonerated

In a stunning reversal, world renowned pediatric gastroenterologist Prof. John Walker-Smith won his appeal against the United Kingdom’s General Medical Council regulatory board that had ruled against both him and Andrew Wakefield for their roles in the 1998 Lancet MMR paper, which raised questions about a link to autism. The complete victory means that Walker-Smith has been returned to the status of a fully licensed physician in the UK, although he had already retired in 2001 — six years before the GMC trial even began.

Justice John Mitting ruled on the appeal by Walker-Smith, saying that the GMC “panel’s determination cannot stand. I therefore quash it.” He said that its conclusions were based on “inadequate and superficial reasoning and, in a number of instances, a wrong conclusion.” The verdict restores Walker-Smith’s name to the medical register and his reputation to the medical community. This conclusion is not surprising, as the GMC trial had no actual complainants, no harm came to the children who were studied, and parents supported Walker-Smith and Wakefield through the trial, reporting that their children had medically benefited from the treatment they received at the Royal Free Hospital.

While John Walker-Smith received funding to appeal the GMC decision from his insurance carrier, his co-author Andrew Wakefield did not — and was therefore unable to mount an appeal in the high court. This year, however, Dr. Wakefield, who now conducts his research in the US, has filed a defamation lawsuit against Brian Deer, Fiona Godlee and the British Medical Journal for falsely accusing him of “fraud.” The suit is currently underway in Texas, where Wakefield now lives. The ruling today bodes well for Dr. Wakefield’s suit against Deer, on whose reporting the entire GMC hearing was based.

In 1998 the Lancet published a case series on twelve children receiving treatment for bowel dysfunction at the Royal Free Hospital in London. The paper called for further study of a possible association between bowel disease and developmental delay, including cases of autism. It also noted that eight of the children’s gastrointestinal and autistic symptoms began shortly after they received the MMR vaccination. The verdict today raises questions about whether or not the Lancet should have retracted the paper after the GMC decision, as the reasons for its retraction have now been contradicted by the judge’s decision.

The thirteen original co-authors of the 1998 Lancet case series were members of the Royal Free’s Inflammatory Bowel Disease Study Group. In 2004, under pressure from the British medical establishment, ten of the co-authors signed a letter retracting an interpretation of the paper that it proved that vaccines caused autism, which the paper never actually claimed in the first place. John Walker-Smith, Andrew Wakefield and Dr. Simon Murch were subsequently brought up on misconduct charges before the GMC. The proceedings resulted in Walker-Smith and Wakefield being found guilty and being “struck off” the medical register, while Dr. Murch retained his status as a physician. Wakefield was then vilified by corporate media and by bloggers eager to repeat scandal and engage in industry protectionism, rather than investigate the complicated facts of the story.

- See more at: http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/br...r-completely-exonerated/#sthash.eSgs6UZR.dpuf
 
Of course the ruling did not decide whether the study was valid or not. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/mar/07/mmr-row-doctor-appeal

In 2004, the Lancet announced a partial retraction, and 10 of the 13 authors disowned it.

Wakefield was the paper's chief author and Walker-Smith the then head of the department of paediatric gastroenterology at the Royal Free, where the research was carried out.

"It had to decide what Professor Walker-Smith thought he was doing: if he believed he was undertaking research in the guise of clinical investigation and treatment, he deserved the finding that he had been guilty of serious professional misconduct and the sanction of erasure.

"If not, he did not, unless, perhaps, his actions fell outside the spectrum of that which would have been considered reasonable medical practice by an academic clinician.

"Its failure to address and decide that question is an error which goes to the root of its determination. The panel's decision cannot stand. I therefore quash it."
 
Dr. Wakefield’s study was a case report, the foundation of “where medicine begins”

When parents came to Dr. Wakefield and his colleague Dr. John Walker-Smith reporting unexplained bowel problems in their children who were recently vaccinated with MMR, the two doctors merely reported on this honestly for the betterment of science. And contrary to popular belief, their research was later corroborated by others within the field who conducted their own follow-up studies implicating the MMR vaccine as associated with novel inflammatory bowel disease.

“My father used to say to me as a neurologist, ‘If you find something on physical examination of the patient that you have not anticipated in the clinical history, you have not taken an adequate history,’” stated Dr. Wakefield. “And the history the mothers gave is that they took their children to have, in this case, the MMR vaccination… and beyond that point their child disappeared. They were not anti-vaccine. They were at the front of the line. They took them [to get vaccinated] on time. They were not looking for excuses, they wanted answers.

“Their child was normal. After the MMR, they had a very high fever, they screamed, they then fell asleep for three days, they had a seizure. And when they woke up, they were never, ever the same again. Speech, language, interaction, socialization — gone.”

Leading gastroenterologists all confirmed Dr. Wakefield’s observations and findings

As honest physicians, Drs. Wakefield and Walker-Smith weren’t content with the medical establishment’s ironic dismissal of all these observed symptoms as being “just autism.” The children whose parents had voluntarily sought out Dr. Wakefield for help most definitely experienced inflammatory bowel disease following vaccination with MMR. And for bringing this inconvenient truth to light, Dr. Wakefield paid a huge price: He instantly became an establishment target.

“What we found working with the world’s leading pediatric gastroenterologist, Prof. John Walker-Smith, is that these children had an inflammatory bowel disease,” explained Dr. Wakefield.

“I was accused of performing colonoscopies on these children, doing lumbar punctures — I never investigated these children. I was responsible for bringing this team together and conducting the investigation of these children. I was not responsible for their clinical care — that was performed by an outstanding group of gastroenterologists who confirmed, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that these children have an inflammatory bowel disease and that has now been replicated around the world.”

You can watch Dr. Wakefield’s speech in its entirety here:
YouTube.com.

Dr. Wakefield’s research was later vindicated, and the case against him ruled a fraud, but the mainstream media never reported this

So how is the mainstream media continuing to get away with lying about Dr. Wakefield and his important research into MMR? The same way it gets away with everything else — repeating that lie over and over and over again until it’s crystallized in the minds of the gullible that Dr. Wakefield is a fraud, when he’s really a lone voice of truth in a sea of liars.

“What has happened in the meantime is a sideshow, and it’s been to divert attention from what is gross regulatory failure to protect individuals, to protect governments and to protect industry from past liabilities and future profits,” warned Dr. Wakefield about the mainstream media’s relentless crusade to destroy his reputation and character.

“What was never reported in the newspapers is that after we went to the GMC and had our licenses removed, Prof. John Walker-Smith took his case to the English High Court — the only time that this case had ever been heard before a proper judiciary — what did they find? Justice Mitting on General Medical Council:

“[There were] ‘fundamental errors,’ there was distortion of evidence, inadequate analysis, inadequate and superficial reasoning and explanation, inappropriate rejection of evidence, ‘flawed’ and ‘wrong’ reasoning, and ‘numerous and significant inadequacies’…. Universal inadequacies and some errors… go to the heart of the case. They are not curable. The panel’s determination cannot stand. I therefore quash it.”

“These are the same charges against me. I was unable to appeal or continue my appeal because of lack of funding — it would have cost me 500,000 pounds.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-wak...inflammatory-bowel-disease-connection/5457636
 
That from a site which claims the Paris attacks were faked. Also claims that the Palestinians occupy Israel- not the other way around (who has the money and weapons?). Entertaining (but not factually based) reading.
 
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Hey ZippyJuan, you never answered my question in the other thread about vaccines:

Do you receive any compensation for posting pro-vaccine or any other content intended to sway opinion on this forum, or any other?
 
Actually, I have been agnostic, in regards to the effects of human activity on the weather, since the subject arose.

Yes, but you're using the same argument.. you're saying the establishment scientists have made a decision and we should all worship them and never question.
 
Hey ZippyJuan, you never answered my question in the other thread about vaccines:

Do you receive any compensation for posting pro-vaccine or any other content intended to sway opinion on this forum, or any other?

Sorry for ignoring the silly question. Yes- I get $10 million a year plus $1000 a post. How much do they pay you? Are you looking for a new employer? We can always use more help!
 
Sorry for ignoring the silly question. Yes- I get $10 million a year plus $1000 a post. How much do they pay you? Are you looking for a new employer? We can always use more help!

dont be disingenuous by intentionally answering in the affirmative an then trying to belittle your own statement with the exaggerated income levels.

everybody here KNOWS youre paid to dole out your posts.. so man up and tell us who pays you and how much.. maybe we all want to come to work for your employer.
 
Well since you know I am paid.... you must know who is paying me. Who is paying you to post? Maybe I should switch sides.
 
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Well since you know I am paid.... you must know who is paying me. Who is paying you to post? Maybe I should switch sides.

Your posting style is what gives you away as a paid blogger. I mean what other "Ron Paul supporter" supports the IRS and Federal Reserve except you??

I can only infer since you stated once that you worked for the Jewish Democratic National Council that they are your employer.. But I have no way to verify that.
 
Can you find the post where I said I worked for the Jewish Democratic National Council? Can you find my Jewish posts? What is a "paid poster" style?

Try looking here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/search.php?searchid=18110893

no, im not about to try and search for some 8 year old or whatever post.

Paid poster style is my terminology but basically every single conversation you have with anybody is always argued from a pro-establishment position - regardless of the topic. Your posts will always come from referenced establishment sources and come so quickly that its obvious you have these areas bookmarked/organized specifically to rebut people who hold anti-establishment views.

When people try to nail you down in any particular fashion for clarification on a particular detail you are very clever in the way you evade or dismiss.. You answer questions that havent been asked so that the casual reader scrolling by wont notice or like in the case of this thread you answer but then mockingly exaggerate your answer so as to purposely destroy the credibility of the person asking the question... These are known tactics for paid bloggers


Now, although its possible that you could sincerely hold all these pro-establishment views, I find the time you are online and the amount of posts you make are to such an extent that your association with this website is not a casual one, and the time you dedicate is of such magnitude that it is more likely than not that you are getting paid to push the positions you do.

All the 2007ers on this board will probably agree with me. Probably any user that has been here of any duration.. Except maybe Farreri, but then again he might be sitting across the table from you on the job.
 
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Yes, but you're using the same argument.. you're saying the establishment scientists have made a decision and we should all worship them and never question.
Well, I personally have reviewed the arguments on both sides of the vaccine issue and feel that the balance of objective based evidence outweighs the argument. I also don't believe that Bush was behind 911, yet I believe that Newtown is a ruse.
 
Well, I personally have reviewed the arguments on both sides of the vaccine issue and feel that the balance of objective based evidence outweighs the argument. I also don't believe that Bush was behind 911, yet I believe that Newtown is a ruse.
PS As a scientist, I am always questioning. :)
And I will admit, I have a greater respect for Dr Andrew Weill's opinions and suggestions than I have for the Health Ranger or David Icke, for instance. Which translates in my siding with him. But, I'm still willing to hear the three of them out.
 
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