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Brian4Liberty said:

Dave Smith | Trump Flirts With Disaster | Part Of The Problem 1248​




"On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss Trump threatening to bomb Iran, the rabbi saying at a Senate hearing that "you must be anti-antisemetic," and more."
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OK, the first minute and a half of actual content was enough to discern the pattern. This seems typical of the myopia of which so many suffer.

Flirting with disaster? You bet. Why? Glad you asked - because for the past 150+ years America has been progressively steered toward the place in which it now finds itself. We are in shit so deep, very few are able to see it. The spectre is appalling. So, we have 150 years of progressive decay. Getting out is going to cost, and one of those costs is risk. In our case, the risks are very large in every dimension of "recovery", whether cultural, economic, financial, political, geopolitical, etc. There's not avoiding it, save that we fold and allow the shit show to continue as it has, unchallenged.


I've known several Persians and I know several who have lived their lives in the middle east. They have no illusions about who populates the Iranian "government". They await the mahdi and if lighting the northern hemisphere ablaze for the sake of ushering in their messiah, they will do it in a heartbeat. To allow them nuclear weapons is tantamount to suicide on a genocidal scale.

That all said, a preemptive strike does NOT have to mean yet another war. To assert war as a necessary consequence is the product of ignorance and peddling. I would bomb the shit out of their nuclear facilities, assuming all attempts at striking a win-win deal fail, which might result with those lunatics. If they get bombs, they will by all means go after Israel and America, the little and big Satans, respectively. I do not believe that the majority of the Persian people are on board with the messianic visions of the ayatollahs, especially the women. The men may be more amenable mainly because they are the sole beneficiaries of all that bullshit.

I would bomb their facilities into nonexistence. It's a shit thing to have to do, but it IS the lesser evil in the event that the mullahs choose to reject basic sanity over the tenets and goals of their idiotic religion.

So yeah, Trump is flirting with disaster because previous administrations have painted the world into such a corner and we the imbecile "people" sat idly, dicks in hands, letting it all unfold when what we should have been doing is stopping them by whatever means would have proven necessary at the time, up to and including hanging the lot of the traitors from their scrawny necks until ever so very dead. Shitty and horrible as it sounds, I'd have been tempted to relegate their entire families to the same fate because the message of intolerance of the intolerable has to be loud and clear such that the promised consequences of betraying one's oath must be so horrific that nobody would so much as contemplate doing it for the terror to which those consequences would give rise. Brutality is all that that class of humanity understands and respects, and so we must be as monsters toward them, lest they view us as suckers, which they have been doing since 1776, and we have been letting them treat us as such. Shame and fie upon us all.
 
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osan said:
OK, the first minute and a half of actual content was enough to discern the pattern. This seems typical of the myopia of which so many suffer.

Flirting with disaster? You bet. Why? Glad you asked - because for the past 150+ years America has been progressively steered toward the place in which it now finds itself. We are in shit so deep, very few are able to see it. The spectre is appalling. So, we have 150 years of progressive decay. Getting out is going to cost, and one of those costs is risk. In our case, the risks are very large in every dimension of "recovery", whether cultural, economic, financial, political, geopolitical, etc. There's not avoiding it, save that we fold and allow the shit show to continue as it has, unchallenged.


I've known several Persians and I know several who have lived their lives in the middle east. They have no illusions about who populates the Iranian "government". They await the mahdi and if lighting the northern hemisphere ablaze for the sake of ushering in their messiah, they will do it in a heartbeat. To allow them nuclear weapons is tantamount to suicide on a genocidal scale.

That all said, a preemptive strike does NOT have to mean yet another war. To assert war as a necessary consequence is the product of ignorance and peddling. I would bomb the shit out of their nuclear facilities, assuming all attempts at striking a win-win deal fail, which might result with those lunatics. If they get bombs, they will by all means go after Israel and America, the little and big Satans, respectively. I do not believe that the majority of the Persian people are on board with the messianic visions of the ayatollahs, especially the women. The men may be more amenable mainly because they are the sole beneficiaries of all that bullshit.

I would bomb their facilities into nonexistence. It's a shit thing to have to do, but it IS the lesser evil in the event that the mullahs choose to reject basic sanity over the tenets and goals of their idiotic religion.

So yeah, Trump is flirting with disaster because previous administrations have painted the world into such a corner and we the imbecile "people" sat idly, dicks in hands, letting it all unfold when what we should have been doing is stopping them by whatever means would have proven necessary at the time, up to and including hanging the lot of the traitors from their scrawny necks until ever so very dead. Shitty and horrible as it sounds, I'd have been tempted to relegate their entire families to the same fate because the message of intolerance of the intolerable has to be loud and clear such that the promised consequences of betraying one's oath must be so horrific that nobody would so much as contemplate doing it for the terror to which those consequences would give rise. Brutality is all that that class of humanity understands and respects, and so we must be as monsters toward them, lest they view us as suckers, which they have been doing since 1776, and we have been letting them treat us as such. Shame and fie upon us all.
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We're all neocons now, eh?

Pre-emptive strikes are morally justified, based solely upon the subjective level of paranoia of the person who feels they must strike?

If we believe that they are murderous and irrational, the solution is to beat them to the punch. Now if our analysis of their state of mind and motivations is incorrect, does that not make us the ones who are murderous and irrational?
 
Brian4Liberty said:
We're all neocons now, eh?
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Where do you get that?
Brian4Liberty said:
Pre-emptive strikes are morally justified, based solely upon the subjective level of paranoia of the person who feels they must strike?
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They are justified based on whether the perceived threat is real. Please don't put words into my mouth. There is always the potential for getting bad intelligence. However, Iran is a well known lunatic state seeking a global caliphate, etc. and so forth. I would not trust them on any matter, save that they would be rotten, and here I speak of those in power, not necessarily the rank and file Persian.
Brian4Liberty said:
If we believe that they are murderous and irrational, the solution is to beat them to the punch. Now if our analysis of their state of mind and motivations is incorrect, does that not make us the ones who are murderous and irrational?
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Indeed, which is why the quality of intelligence is crucial. I hold very little doubt that the current assessments of Iran are correct. I could tell how I know, but then I'd have to kill you. :)

All such matters, regardless who is involved, turns on the intellect, smarts, intelligence, and moral stoutness of the players. Shitty people will do shitty things. Good people will do necessary things, even when they are shitty, but they will have done so correctly. The two look the same, but are fundamentally different. This is unavoidable with humans who are predators by their nature and these days are morally deficient in the extreme. That goes for all nations on the planet because humans.

We may not like it, but this is the hand we're given to play. People plot and conspiracies abound, contrary to the hissing noises made by some who want to believe Gene Roddenberry portrayed human nature correctly. He wasn't even close. We're a tough case, by all means.
 
osan said:
However, Iran is a well known lunatic state seeking a global caliphate, etc. and so forth. I would not trust them on any matter, save that they would be rotten, and here I speak of those in power, not necessarily the rank and file Persian.
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Iran's government is a direct result of CIA/etc. meddling in Iran dating back to the overthrow of the Shah. Iran has been "3 weeks from a nuclear bomb" for like 30 years now. Obvious propaganda is obvious. The lunatics behind the current "geopolitical chessboard" are literally trying to immanentize the eschaton (start the prophetic war of Armageddon) in order to bring about the biblical Apocalypse. There are no words that can express how mentally unhinged the anti-Iranian false-zionists are. And yes, the Persian people are nothing like the Ayatollahs, which is why Tehran was heavily westernized prior to the overthrow of the Shah (which the West was a key player in orchestrating). So, waging war against the people who had nothing to do with the "lunatic state" that has taken them over, would solve nothing. Meanwhile, the people who are actually responsible for this "lunatic state" are the very same people who toppled Saddam, Gaddafi and fomented the war in Ukraine by toppling Yanukovich, the democratically-elected president of Ukraine... and are now trying to drag us into a bonkers war with Iran. They all live in and around Washington, DC. The problem is not in Tehran, the problem is in DC.
 
osan said:
They are justified based on whether the perceived threat is real. Please don't put words into my mouth. There is always the potential for getting bad intelligence. However, Iran is a well known lunatic state seeking a global caliphate, etc. and so forth. I would not trust them on any matter, save that they would be rotten, and here I speak of those in power...
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What words did he put in your mouth? Didn't you just say, the threat has to be real unless you get bad intel? Didn't you just say just assuming Iran is doing the bad thing is acceptable? De facto is de rigueur? So how is his summary inaccurate?
 
osan said:
Where do you get that?

They are justified based on whether the perceived threat is real. Please don't put words into my mouth. There is always the potential for getting bad intelligence. However, Iran is a well known lunatic state seeking a global caliphate, etc. and so forth. I would not trust them on any matter, save that they would be rotten, and here I speak of those in power, not necessarily the rank and file Persian.

Indeed, which is why the quality of intelligence is crucial. I hold very little doubt that the current assessments of Iran are correct. I could tell how I know, but then I'd have to kill you. :)

All such matters, regardless who is involved, turns on the intellect, smarts, intelligence, and moral stoutness of the players. Shitty people will do shitty things. Good people will do necessary things, even when they are shitty, but they will have done so correctly. The two look the same, but are fundamentally different. This is unavoidable with humans who are predators by their nature and these days are morally deficient in the extreme. That goes for all nations on the planet because humans.

We may not like it, but this is the hand we're given to play. People plot and conspiracies abound, contrary to the hissing noises made by some who want to believe Gene Roddenberry portrayed human nature correctly. He wasn't even close. We're a tough case, by all means.
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I have found that much evil is done in the name of fear and paranoia. The neoconservative mantra is to pre-emptively strike anyone they fear might eventually attack them. Additionally, it is often an excuse to take aggressive actions for other reasons.

At the personal level, as opposed to nation level, this is similar to those want to ban guns because they fear them, and fear others may use them.

Certainly, there are rational fears. On the other hand there are plenty of irrational fears, and hidden agendas posing as a rational fear. Netanyahu doing a dog and pony show every year about how Iran is a month away from nuking Israel are getting old, and fall more under hidden agenda than rational fear. And let's not ignore the fact the Netanyahu and his neocon friends do everything in their power to make their "fears" happen.

This is not about "siding" with Iran. I have no love of Iran, it's culture, it's religion, or it's people. I would rather that none of them be allowed to immigrate to the US. The culture of most of the rest of the world is not compatible with traditional US-western culture.
 
Occam's Banana said:
THREAD: Joe Rogan Experience #2303 - Dave Smith & Douglas Murray
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Occam's Banana said:
Dave Smith | Responding to Konstantin | Part Of The Problem 1256
{Dave Smith | 23 April 2025}

On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss Konstantin's video [see below - OB] regarding his most read article regarding Dave's Debate, and more.



Murray vs. Smith: Dispatches from Podcastistan - Konstantin Kisin[/B
{Triggernometry | 21 April 2025}

Konstantin Kisin on the recent Joe Rogan Experience featuring Dave Smith and Douglas Murray.

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Brian4Liberty said:
I have found that much evil is done in the name of fear and paranoia. The neoconservative mantra is to pre-emptively strike anyone they fear might eventually attack them. Additionally, it is often an excuse to take aggressive actions for other reasons.

At the personal level, as opposed to nation level, this is similar to those want to ban guns because they fear them, and fear others may use them.

Certainly, there are rational fears. On the other hand there are plenty of irrational fears, and hidden agendas posing as a rational fear. Netanyahu doing a dog and pony show every year about how Iran is a month away from nuking Israel are getting old, and fall more under hidden agenda than rational fear. And let's not ignore the fact the Netanyahu and his neocon friends do everything in their power to make their "fears" happen.

This is not about "siding" with Iran. I have no love of Iran, it's culture, it's religion, or it's people. I would rather that none of them be allowed to immigrate to the US. The culture of most of the rest of the world is not compatible with traditional US-western culture.
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And so the real problem here is knowing what is true and what is not. The bullshit flies so wildly now, it is nearly impossible to tell. This is yet another very big problem, perhaps the biggest of them all.

As to the gun example, funny you should mention that. I was at the supermarket about ten days ago and one of these seemingly soy-poisoned sorts shouts at me from about 30 feet away "get your hand off that gun". I had my hand resting, BACKWARDS, on my sidearm. I kept it right where it was and just looked as him for any more. He walked away. About 15 years ago I'm walking out of the McDonald's in Hinton. A guy from New Zealand is on his way in when he spies my 686 and said "kill anyone yet today?", to which I retorted with "no, but the day's still young". These terror-stricken hoplophobes make no sense. If they're so frightened, why are the trying so hard to antagonize the guy that has them in a knot?
 
Occam's Banana said:
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Dave Smith | We Are At War With Iran | Part Of The Problem 1275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34xnRJ8ZALg
{Dave Smith | 16 June 2025}

On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave discusses Israel declaring war with Iran, what this means for the United States, his reflections on his voting for Donald Trump, and more.

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https://x.com/ComicDaveSmith/status/1934651668097892761
{@ComicDaveSmith | 16 June 2025}

According to Netanyahu and other sources, Trump had full prior knowledge of Israel’s attack and gave it his blessing while pretending to be negotiating with the Iranians as a cover.

If this is true, then the US is already at war with Iran as we facilitated an aggressive sneak attack by our “proxy” with our weapons.

Tucker Carlson (who I trust a hell of a lot more than Netanyahu) told Steve Bannon that he knows for a fact that this isn’t true. He claims that Witkoff and...
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Occam's Banana said:
Dave Smith | We Are At War With Iran | Part Of The Problem 1275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34xnRJ8ZALg
{Dave Smith | 16 June 2025}

On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave discusses Israel declaring war with Iran, what this means for the United States, his reflections on his voting for Donald Trump, and more.

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I don't see how it's a betrayal of what Trump ran on. Trump has always been pretty obviously Israel first.
 
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