Dating coach banned from several countries after internet feminist outrage over misogynist vid

I just think it is hilarious that these are the people who are getting laid the most, thus encouraging the behavior.


They absolutely are not. Or, if they are, it's because they're playing a numbers game. If, as a normal human and not an aggressive, PUA, pig, you approach every girl that you find attractive and act like a confident gentleman, you'll get laid all the time too. It isn't hard.
 
They absolutely are not. Or, if they are, it's because they're playing a numbers game. If, as a normal human and not an aggressive, PUA, pig, you approach every girl that you find attractive and act like a confident gentleman, you'll get laid all the time too. It isn't hard.

Did you miss the whole "iHollaBack" thread? Saying "Good evening" to some attractive woman you don't know is "street harassment".
 
There's a difference between being an asshole (this guy) and being confident. You can be a good person and still display confidence in your tone, posture and actions. What this guy is doing simply preys on the lowest common denominator—on people with very low self-esteem or psychological trauma. While being a douchenozzle will get you more women than being a pushover, both are still unattractive qualities. The douche will never have a lasting, fulfilling relationship, but will get more one-night stands than your typical "nice guy." Being a dick to other people in the hopes that you can exploit or manipulate their emotional or psychological issues or hell, scare them into complying, is abhorrent. You get much better results and don't reduce yourself to scum by being a good, confident person with social tact.

Women want confidence, not an asshole. The advantage that the asshole has over the "nice guy" is that their asshole qualities can sometimes come across as confidence, but more often than not, they're really insecure and controlling, both of which are huge turn-offs. Eventually, the facade wears off. I have no respect for clowns like this and have read more "PUA" literature than I care to remember for the sake of freelance stuff I've written. There are absolutely different schools of thought. There are pieces of shit like this, and others who offer more solid advice that doesn't rely on manipulation or tactics such as those displayed by the guy in question. The "PUA" movement (the decent parts at least) is mostly just basic social psychology, self-improvement/empowerment and 'fake it 'til you make it' confidence. Some people have found ways to monetize the basics and common sense while embellishing it with pseudo science and other distinct things.

One could argue there's no real need for such a movement since the important aspects of it can be found by studying psychology and applying common sense, but obviously there's a market for having it neatly packaged and applied to relationships. In the end, most of it comes down to being confident and ridding yourself of outcome dependence. As soon as you start ridding yourself of the fear associated with rejection, your confidence will naturally go up and you'll do better in social situations. Obviously it's more nuanced, but that's the gist of it. Being an asshole should never factor in. You can be "cocky and funny" which means you're playful about it and project that in your tone/mannerisms, but being a dick is a big no.

I would add that women don't really even want confidence -- what they want is the things that would make a man BE confident. They want him to have a good job. They want him to be physically attractive. They want him to be fun and witty. They want him to be sociable and charming. They want him to be the kind of guy that other women want, too.

There are a lot of ways to attract other humans to you. Standard Pick Up Artist moves seem, to me, to be the dumbest. Why would you want to be a dick? Why would you want to put more negativity into the universe? I just don't get that.
 
Did you miss the whole "iHollaBack" thread? Saying "Good evening" to some attractive woman you don't know is "street harassment".

To retarded, socially progressive, radfems, sure. That is harassment. To plenty of normal people, making eye contact, smiling, and saying "how's it going?" is entirely appropriate. You can't please everyone, and if you come across enough people, sooner or later, you'll find someone who is offended by your behavior. But if you know that you're just being a decent human, who cares what that person thinks?
 
I have to say, though -- nothing makes me happier than watching Radfem progressives battle MRA PUA morons. The level of stupidity, the total lack of social awareness, the hilarious dehumanization that each side projects, and the unbridled hypocrisy of it all makes me so happy.
 
If PUAs weren't getting laid - even by the smallest minority of women - we'd never hear about it. But they do, and it does work on some women. Banning them from countries is not the way to shut down PUAs; not banging them will.
 
If PUAs weren't getting laid - even by the smallest minority of women - we'd never hear about it. But they do, and it does work on some women. Banning them from countries is not the way to shut down PUAs; not banging them will.

I bet PUA's would have a higher batting average if they acted like normal humans rather than douchebags, though.

My guess is that PUAs push a technique which allows guys to have a gameplan and a set of instructions, so that they don't have to think on their feet or consider their own self-worth. They have confidence in the approach, and that's it. That confidence gives them the ability to actually converse with strange women. I posit that if, instead of learning a stupid technique, the guys actually focused on building a successful career and a personality, and went to the gym every day, and adopted a philosophy of talking to every woman they found attractive, they'd eventually do far better than any PUA.

All of the stuff that is involved in the PUA noise is just a lame shortcut. Do the real work to become a great man.

EDIT: If not yet apparent, I really hate pick up artists, and douchebags, and "nice" guys.
 
I'm drawn to the smart, unconventional, slightly nerdy, and often neurotic and demanding women. I share many of those traits myself, and when we mix together romantically it doesn't seem to work out.

So we meet again. That is because even among nerdy women, nerdy traits are less desirable in men. That is why the nerd fantasy of ending up with a cute nerd girl (they do exist, seldomly) never comes to fruition. The cute nerd girl is cute, which is pretty much all she needs in order to attract Alphas. Unfair in the extreme. A man simply doesn't care if a woman has a Star Wars action figure collections so long as she is (A) reasonably attractive, and (B) sexually available.
 
The trailer trash kids at my high school came to school with hickeys, and hell some even had children. They were getting laid.

The lowest classes in our society are the ones breeding the most. They are getting laid.

being poor = sex.

Dude...I think you're letting a little bit of the crazy out.

I'm not trying to be mean, but given your legendary thread asking for manly advice, in which you didn't even know whether you should call a woman whom you wanted to meet again (The answer is, "Duh!"), you act like you have everything figured out about women, dating, and sex. Multiple people tell you what the score is, yet you'll go to the grave thinking that a woman wants a charming nerd-boy above all else. You're almost 30 years old and have views that about women and sex that I would expect from an 18-year-old.

I was a hopeless nerd once too, and moved around so much that I went to ten schools in twelve years. I didn't even kiss a fucking woman until after high school. How pathetic is that? But I eventually got my shit together and have slain maybe 60-ish women. I did this by realizing that women didn't want the nice, shy, nerdy shit that I was peddling.
 
So we meet again. That is because even among nerdy women, nerdy traits are less desirable in men. That is why the nerd fantasy of ending up with a cute nerd girl (they do exist, seldomly) never comes to fruition. The cute nerd girl is cute, which is pretty much all she needs in order to attract Alphas. Unfair in the extreme. A man simply doesn't care if a woman has a Star Wars action figure collections so long as she is (A) reasonably attractive, and (B) sexually available.



lol what makes you think my ex is the one who ended it? the fact is, we were so compatible that we were incompatible. put two neurotic people with a litany of idiosyncratic behavior in a close space over a long period of time there is going to be clashes.

she is "nerdy" in the sense that is really smart with a well-developed sense of humor. making obscure pop culture references was how we bonded.

also, while i am a little nerdy and have a bunch of nerdy interests (i'm a coder after all) i'm not the stereotypical geek portrayed in pop culture. i was the long-hair stoner/skateboarder looking kid in high school- not the star trek, magic the gathering playing geek with acne.

moreover, she is not attracted to macho "alpha male" types. in fact, she viciously and mercilessly mocks them. she is also "bi-curious". :rolleyes:

and i disagree; nerdy guys can be in a long lasting content relationship with nerdy woman if they're compatible and emotionally stable.

not every woman "biologically" desires the "alpha males", man.
 
I was a 4.0 student, I now have a Master's Degree a professional career and I wasn't getting laid on a regular basis when I was younger at all and am still not at the moment, though I was for a couple years recently. My ex still claims I am the nicest person in the ENTIRE WORLD. (she broke up w/ me).

So if women want a guy who is "loyal" and can take care of his wife and family, why is it that poor people are getting laid? They use PUA tactics without the training, that's why.

Rich reserved men get laid sometimes, women will give them the least amount of sex they have to in order to get the most amount out of them possible.

Guys who are successful and a bit sketchy can potentially attract some very beautiful women.

This one's easy, although I suspect you know the score. Women want, above all else, the Alpha male (regardless of wealth), and will even prefer to share the Alpha male with other women than settle for a lesser man. The minority of men are having sex with a majority of the women. However, a woman's value is at it's peak during their 20's when they are still young and fresh. During this time the women will play, and can rack up an ungodly partner count because it is so easy and they can. However, when they get older they cease getting the same attention and validation that they received in their youth, while the older alpha males can still have sex with young, pretty women if they keep themselves in shape. Therefore, when a woman is older she will seek security from the men that she would have never even considered dating ten years prior. Once they are invisible to Alphas, a man's wallet starts becoming more attractive.
 
Dude...I think you're letting a little bit of the crazy out.

I'm not trying to be mean, but given your legendary thread asking for manly advice, in which you didn't even know whether you should call a woman whom you wanted to meet again (The answer is, "Duh!"), you act like you have everything figured out about women, dating, and sex. Multiple people tell you what the score is, yet you'll go to the grave thinking that a woman wants a charming nerd-boy above all else. You're almost 30 years old and have views that about women and sex that I would expect from an 18-year-old.

I was a hopeless nerd once too, and moved around so much that I went to ten schools in twelve years. I didn't even kiss a fucking woman until after high school. How pathetic is that? But I eventually got my shit together and have slain maybe 60-ish women. I did this by realizing that women didn't want the nice, shy, nerdy shit that I was peddling.


well, i'm not a "normal" guy, what can i say? i don't connect to the average dude, so i can't understand where you guys are coming from.

in all honesty, i think much of the stuff that is being said and endorsed in this thread, as well as "pua" tactics, seems like something an 18 year old would do and say and believe.

i really wish i could SEE it from your point of view, i just can't.
 
Dude...I think you're letting a little bit of the crazy out.

I'm not trying to be mean, but given your legendary thread asking for manly advice, in which you didn't even know whether you should call a woman whom you wanted to meet again (The answer is, "Duh!"), you act like you have everything figured out about women, dating, and sex. Multiple people tell you what the score is, yet you'll go to the grave thinking that a woman wants a charming nerd-boy above all else. You're almost 30 years old and have views that about women and sex that I would expect from an 18-year-old.

I was a hopeless nerd once too, and moved around so much that I went to ten schools in twelve years. I didn't even kiss a fucking woman until after high school. How pathetic is that? But I eventually got my shit together and have slain maybe 60-ish women. I did this by realizing that women didn't want the nice, shy, nerdy shit that I was peddling.

Why is that "pathetic"? Who says?
 
I think the main difference between me and the other guys on here is the TYPE of women we are attracted to.

I have no interest in casual sex or trying to boost my manliness by having sex with a bunch of women- zero desire for that. Therefore, I'm not attracted to the type of women who sleep with men like that.

Approaching random women in the street, bar hopping, club hopping, or even online 'dating' do not interest me. In fact, I am not even really interested in a relationship at the moment, but when I am I will want a like-minded woman.
 
Doesn't that account for everyone then?

I'm none of those things. I'm just a man who works hard, takes care of himself, treats others with respect, has a good time with his friends and family, and enjoys meeting women. I'm certainly not a phony "nice" guy who does what amounts to dishonest things just to win attention of women. I'm not lame douchebag. I'm not a PUA dick. It's possible to just be.... a man. More guys should focus on that. Just be a man.
 
as we discuss relationship dynamics, men, women, biological urges, sexuality, lust, "pick up tactics"- the average couple is living their lives uninterested in such things. Haha.
 
I think the main difference between me and the other guys on here is the TYPE of women we are attracted to.

I have no interest in casual sex or trying to boost my manliness by having sex with a bunch of women- zero desire for that. Therefore, I'm not attracted to the type of women who sleep with men like that.

Approaching random women in the street, bar hopping, club hopping, or even online 'dating' do not interest me. In fact, I am not even really interested in a relationship at the moment, but when I am I will want a like-minded woman.


I think that guys who go out just looking for a warm hole are putting effort in the wrong place, but I also think that guys who go out actively looking for a relationship may be taking the wrong approach too. All things in moderation, and whatnot.
 
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