Dating coach banned from several countries after internet feminist outrage over misogynist vid

[pessimist]

being poor = sex.

 

[Dr.3D]

The lowest classes in our society are the ones breeding the most. They are getting laid.

By jove I think he's got it. I really think he's got it.

So have I and it makes me wonder how people can think evolution is true. If evolution is true, we are heading in the wrong direction with people breading for the wrong reasons.
It's not survival of the fittest, it survival of the dirt bags with the punks out breeding the decent folks.

 

[dannno]

The trailer trash kids at my high school came to school with hickeys, and hell some even had children. They were getting laid.

The lowest classes in our society are the ones breeding the most. They are getting laid.

being poor = sex.

I was a 4.0 student, I now have a Master's Degree a professional career and I wasn't getting laid on a regular basis when I was younger at all and am still not at the moment, though I was for a couple years recently. My ex still claims I am the nicest person in the ENTIRE WORLD. (she broke up w/ me).

So if women want a guy who is "loyal" and can take care of his wife and family, why is it that poor people are getting laid? They use PUA tactics without the training, that's why.

Rich reserved men get laid sometimes, women will give them the least amount of sex they have to in order to get the most amount out of them possible.

Guys who are successful and a bit sketchy can potentially attract some very beautiful women.

 

[pessimist]

MANY men don't want to have sex with women who are drawn to "PUA" tactics.

MANY women don't want men who employ "PUA" tactics.

End of thread.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Seems strange how a fellow can start a thread like this ------> http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?462108-The-dating-scene-manly-advice
And then argue about if this thread shows some truth on the subject.

LOL. I forgot about that thread.

FFS dude, seriously, pessimist, you NEED to read this:

http://manhood101.com/p101.pdf

I do cringe at times when the authors use political analogies, but it is a spot-on assessment of our feminist-culture and what should be done to correct it. And, you'll like it, the authors do a great job of bashing pick up artists, but not for the reasons you might think.

I haven't read something so revolutionary since I picked up Ron Paul's Revolution: A Manifesto. I mean, there's absolutely no shortage of books out there supporting the feminist paradigm, but very few that so boldly refute it.(EDIT: I bet it would be taken from the shelves if it were sold in bookstores, in response to outrage, it's that provocative, but it's free) In fact, I'd even recommend this book to the married men on here, just don't tell your wives you're reading it. (or, actually, tell them you'll read whatever the hell you want, 'cause you're a man)

Honest to God.

 

[Dr.3D]

MANY men don't want to have sex with women who are drawn to "PUA" tactics.

You better just hope you don't marry one before you find out she is drawn to "PUA" tactics.

MANY women don't want men who employ "PUA" tactics.

Even if the majority of women don't want men who employ "PUA" tactics, that doesn't stop the sluts who do want men who employ "PUA" tactics.

End of thread.

 

[jmdrake]

It bothers me, because I just don't see it. I am comprehending it fine. I just don't SEE IT. I don't see how walking up to random women in the street and acting aggressive and vulgar is a turn on for them. Are you telling me that stuff in the PUA videos works on 25% of women?

Trashy people tend to have sex with trashy people. Religious people tend to be drawn to religious people, etc.

I have no idea what the percentages are. It just works sometime. And not all of the women it works on would be considered "trashy" or "poor".

Here are women who have enough means to support a homeless PUA.

 

[jmdrake]

The trailer trash kids at my high school came to school with hickeys, and hell some even had children. They were getting laid.

Well trailer women do prefer hunters.

Me, HUNT? lol

I cannot imagine a dimension where I'd enjoy getting up at 4 in morning, sit in tree stand freezing my ass off in hopes of slaughtering Bambi

No woman into hunting would EVER date a dude like me. I'm a neurotic mess.

 

[nobody's_hero]

No woman into hunting would EVER date a dude like me. I'm a neurotic mess.

"Neurotic mess"

They made that topic the FIRST F'KING CHAPTER of the book.

The Principles that Govern Social Interaction

Pessimist you may need to read this book more than I do. And that's saying a lot.

 

[jmdrake]

That is my SPECIALITY

And ^this is my new avatar!

 

[pessimist]

"Neurotic mess"

They made that topic the FIRST F'KING CHAPTER of the book.

The Principles that Govern Social Interaction

Pessimist you may need to read this book more than I do. And that's saying a lot.

LOL @ their facial illustrations of the neurotic. Dude, I am the complete opposite of that...I have a stoic demeanor in public, even though my mind/nervous system are often in overdrive. Honestly, many people find me "arrogant" or "snobby" when that is not the case at all.

Also, part of the neurotic and anxious mind is hyperbolizing. If you read that thread where that quote was taken from it should have been obvious I was attempting to be as "entertaining" as possible. I am like that around my close friends and family. I can be myself and act like George Costanza around them, but mask my neurosis around others.

The reason I'm so open and social on the internet is I don't have to deal with physical interaction; I'm not as self-conscious, or overstimulated by my environment.

I appreciate the advice and book recommendation, but feminism isn't the source of my problems. Like I said, there is a biological difference in my nervous system (I'm a highly sensitive person). My brain wiring is a bit different. This difference was the cause of me being misdiagnosed as having "Aspergers" as a child.

I'm not attracted or interested or ever will be in the type of women that many of the men in this forum are attracted to. I have ZERO interest in casual sex. I don't find bar hoppers, street walkers, and fake breasts appealing. And yes I do have a sex drive- I'm not a freaking eunuch nor am I effeminate at all.

I'm drawn to the smart, unconventional, slightly nerdy, and often neurotic and demanding women. I share many of those traits myself, and when we mix together romantically it doesn't seem to work out.

 

[nobody's_hero]

LOL @ their facial illustrations of the neurotic. Dude, I am the complete opposite of that...I have a stoic demeanor in public, even though my mind/nervous system are often in overdrive. Honestly, many people find me "arrogant" or "snobby" when that is not the case at all.

Also, part of the neurotic and anxious mind is hyperbolizing. If you read that thread where that quote was taken from it should have been obvious I was attempting to be as "entertaining" as possible. I am like that around my close friends and family. I can be myself and act like George Costanza around them, but mask my neurosis around others.

The reason I'm so open and social on the internet is I don't have to deal with physical interaction; I'm not as self-conscious, or overstimulated by my environment.

I appreciate the advice and book recommendation, but feminism isn't the source of my problems. Like I said, there is a biological difference in my nervous system (I'm a highly sensitive person). My brain wiring is a bit different. This difference was the cause of me being misdiagnosed as having "Aspergers" as a child.

I'm not attracted or interested or ever will be in the type of women that many of the men in this forum are attracted to. I have ZERO interest in casual sex. I don't find bar hoppers, street walkers, and fake breasts appealing. And yes I do have a sex drive- I'm not a freaking eunuch nor am I effeminate at all.

I'm drawn to the smart, unconventional, slightly nerdy, and often neurotic and demanding women. I share many of those traits myself, and when we mix together romantically it doesn't seem to work out.

Denial is a feminine trait, FYI.

Read. that. book.

 

[Antischism]

FFS dude, seriously, pessimist, you NEED to read this:

http://manhood101.com/p101.pdf

I do cringe at times when the authors use political analogies, but it is a spot-on assessment of our feminist-culture and what should be done to correct it. And, you'll like it, the authors do a great job of bashing pick up artists, but not for the reasons you might think.

I haven't read something so revolutionary since I picked up Ron Paul's Revolution: A Manifesto. I mean, there's absolutely no shortage of books out there supporting the feminist paradigm, but very few that so boldly refute it.

Honest to God.

That pdf is nonsense. In fact, it's so bad, I thought it was satire when I first read it. Don't even waste your time, Pessimist, unless you want a good laugh at quotes such as:

The very thought of acknowledging the superior strength and intelligence of males is demonized while female capacity is exaggerated.

Since humans have a need for order, limitations, restrictions and rules must be created to safeguard people from disorder. This is why our society designs laws to restrict harmful behavior.

Many people even demonize limitation as harmful to society. But regardless of what our current dysfunctional culture preaches, people need to know which way to go, what to say and how to behave... It seems counterintuitive to think that removing options by adding limitations will create more freedom. But people only feel truly free when order is achieved.

While women and children often lack the capacity to grasp the inner workings of authority, they still have an instinctual, positive response to it. Authority brings poorly arranged things, people, events and circumstances into a state of order. Hence, people are attracted to those who have the ability to create order. Having authority means you have jurisdiction over someone or something. You have the right to control and determine a course of action or a final outcome.

Consider the punk rocker lifestyle. It is the antithesis of order. In fact, its philosophy encourages the dismantling of social order. Only dysfunctional people are drawn to such a chaotic, aimless life. Their houses, cars, personal appearance and relationships display a disorderly, limitless view of life. If you were to stop taking care of your house and your appearance, both would spontaneously start resembling this lifestyle. It’s not so much a lifestyle choice as it is an act of personal neglect. Apathy and dissatisfaction fuel such disorderly living.

Women fail to realize that both authority and submission come with a price. Either women must give up their autonomy or learn to bear the burden of responsibility inherent to leadership. Either women must obey the men governing their relationships or start creating their own civilization by the sweat of their own brows.

For example, the government is responsible for making its citizens happy. It has the requisite authority to control our behavior. This is necessary to create order. Just as a parent controls the behavior of a child with rules, the government controls the behavior of its citizens with laws designed to safeguard everyone’s welfare.

(There's so much more of this nonsense that I have to stop in order to keep my post from being extremely bloated.)

It's like an authoritarian/sociopath bible for MRA, red pill popping misogynists. Some frustrated dudes found a way to market misogyny because of a growing number of men who are frustrated about the pillars of patriarchy taking blows over the past decades.

There are legitimate things men can fight for in a strive for more equality such as altering divorce laws. What's funny is these laws were created during a time where women were confined to being housewives and men had all the power/capital, so it made more sense that the woman would be more suited to taking care of the children as men wouldn't want to give up their career to stay at home. It was a result of social gender norms dictating the roles of people. Even funnier is you don't need a movement outside of feminism to address this issue. Increasingly, you'll see more women who don't want to sacrifice their careers just as men didn't in the past. You'd have to see men/fathers lobby against these laws for a change to happen.

Interestingly, another issue that affects men related to the previous paragraph, alimony laws, are also addressed by feminism in that more and more women being breadwinners would even out the field. Men are only more adversely affected right now because they're still primarily the breadwinners.

Masculine stereotypes and bullying are also issues that face men, which leads to pressure, insecurities, lack of social tact, depression and even suicide. Guess what else addresses gender roles/equality?

Notice a trend? A lot of the issues men face are a result of their stranglehold either being loosened or backfiring. The problem with the MRM is they want to argue it from a point of view where "the evil wimminz" are trying to pervert society and they MUST MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO AND HOLD ON TO TRADITION AT ALL COSTS. Of course, it's beneficial to men because they've held all the power over society until women spoke up and started fighting for equality. The correct way to tackle these issues is actually through feminism if the goal is equality rather than maintaining an authoritative stance that suggests men are rulers and women subservient. Basically, the MRM is the dying odor of male dominance in our society.

I'd be fine with an "MRM" that's a subset of feminism, which fights for the issues which actually exist and harm both men and women, but as it is now, it's mostly disgruntled or bitter guys feeling like women owe them their vagina simply for being men and lamenting the gradual loss of male dominance over society.

 

[parocks]

I've thought about running on that platform. Just legalize prostitution. Done.

The votes are there. The party for men.

What about this going to jail for failure to pay child support?

Where did that come from?

Did the guy who is jail for failure to pay child support sign a contract saying he'd pay money?

Why is the government forcing him to pay money? And how does owing money lead to jail?

This is something that us liberty fans haven't mentioned a whole lot.

You can go out there to a bar, get drunk, pick up some random drunk chick, get laid, and you could be forced
to pay money or go to jail?

I mean, liberty, right?

Why would I be paying money, I don't get it at all.

People could be making arguments blah blah the child blah blah, but there's no reason why guys should be paying.

Need to open up baby selling. No money to feed the baby or whatever, sell it.

I mean, gay marriage and sex changes, why again can't you sell your baby?

Also, smoking in bars. Why can't we do that again (in some states).

And laws against drinking and driving are a real pain in the ass. .

Just don't hit anybody. Then you'll get in trouble.

Why is the drinking age 21 everywhere?

16 sounds better.

 

[dannno]

And ^this is my new avatar!

Engywook!!

To the winch, wench!

 

[parocks]

That is my SPECIALITY

All correct.




For emphasis.

Also, when you train a dog to go against their primal instincts, are they using their conscious mind? Hmmm..

"are they using their conscious mind"

BF Skinner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner

You got the primal stuff. And the feminists who want to rap you on the nose with a rolled up newspaper when you hump their leg.

No no no - you can't just wanna go humping for fun - you need a soulmate. Swat. Bad PUA. Bad PUA.

 

[PierzStyx]

Dude... this sounds like something an 18 year old kid would say. You do know that normal adults do not interact like this.... right?

Also not interested in debating this, ....running away now

Well, define normal. Every club and bar has their desperate women and men who want to get picked up on. PUAs are skilled at being able to recognize the desperate ones, weed out from them the group they don't want to sleep with, and then emotionally manipulate the ones they do. This is why PUAs are terrible over something like chat, it is all about the face to face interaction. And it doesn't work on all, perhaps not even most women and men. But the substantial minority is there, it exists for those who knows how to take advantage of it. Which is not to say taking advantage and emotional manipulation is right, just that it happens.

 

[PierzStyx]

The votes are there. The party for men.

What about this going to jail for failure to pay child support?

Where did that come from?

Did the guy who is jail for failure to pay child support sign a contract saying he'd pay money?

Why is the government forcing him to pay money? And how does owing money lead to jail?

This is something that us liberty fans haven't mentioned a whole lot.

You can go out there to a bar, get drunk, pick up some random drunk chick, get laid, and you could be forced
to pay money or go to jail?

I mean, liberty, right?

Why would I be paying money, I don't get it at all.

People could be making arguments blah blah the child blah blah, but there's no reason why guys should be paying.

Need to open up baby selling. No money to feed the baby or whatever, sell it.

I mean, gay marriage and sex changes, why again can't you sell your baby?

Also, smoking in bars. Why can't we do that again (in some states).

And laws against drinking and driving are a real pain in the ass. .

Just don't hit anybody. Then you'll get in trouble.

Why is the drinking age 21 everywhere?

16 sounds better.

I would say a parent's obligation to provide for their children is as natural as natural rights. It is inherent in the whole promulgating offspring thing. So if you don't want to be faced with those natural responsibilities then don't get some chick pregnant.

People are not commodities to be sold.

 

[KingNothing]

It works. I've seen quite a few youtube videos of guys who are not very attractive saying the most fucked up shit to women they've just met at a bar or party or something and suddenly they start making out and get laid. Which is why I suck at girls.

I have a pretty close friend now who is actually a nice guy but he can be ruthless with girls, but he never has any problem getting laid.

As soon as you take them off the pedestal and treat them like shit, they are like "wtf, most guys are nice to me to try and sleep with me, why is this guy not treating me like he wants to fuck me? I must want to fuck him." And it's done.

You know that there are ways to do this without actually being a dickbag though, right? "Negging," and aggressive horseshit is stupid. Just get comfortable and loose saying something funny, and if you can't be funny, just say "Ohh, hey. How's it going?" If you're at a bar and you're all drinking, that is plenty to start a conversation. Then you just follow-up with banal nonsense like "where are you from, what do you do, where did you go to school." Guys tend to make this so much harder than it has to be. Certainly take women off the pedestal. Talk to them like they're normal humans. Stop overthinking it. Pick Up Artists are not real things. They're just douchebags looking to scam socially awkward men who are incapable of getting out of their own way.

 

[KingNothing]

I think it is hilarious that all these women are going after this guy even though apparently deep down inside most want to be treated like that, otherwise they wouldn't fuck guys who do.

The best way to defeat these guys are not to kick them out of your country, that's just dumb. The way to defeat them is to start fucking nice guys. The PUAs will all start telling guys to be nice to women if they want to get laid. Some how I doubt that will happen, though.

Women like nice guys. They don't like "nice" guys. There's a giant difference between being an established, fun, emotionally-stable, charming gentleman who happens to be a nice guy, and being an insecure, emotionally-needy, entitled, brat who thinks that he is a "nice" guy because he will do and say kind things to a woman because he thinks it is how to get them to like him. The "nice" guy might do nice things, temporarily, but his motivation is entirely pathetic and his actions are not righteous.

When I hear guys talk like this, all I think about is Vito Corleone slapping Johnny Fontaine and saying "YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!" in The Godfather. Act like a man. Stop acting like a boy.