Darrell Castle, Says He’s More Libertarian Than Gary Johnson

He's NOT the most libertarian...he's for government-controlled borders and all the grave violations of the libertarian non-aggression principle of enforcing government-controlled borders

Open borders is the only possible libertarian position on immigration

http://fff.org/2016/05/19/open-borders-libertarian-position-immigration/


It's not just the open borders issue where Castle isn't libertarian. Check out his platform on pornography:

Pornography, obscenity and sexually oriented businesses are a distortion of the true nature of sex created by God for the procreative union between one man and one woman in the holy bonds of matrimony. This results in emotional, physical, spiritual and financial costs to individuals, families and communities.

Due to a lack of prosecution, the sexually oriented business industry has proliferated, aggravating the problems of child pornography, human trafficking and sexually transmitted diseases. This is decreasing our safety by increasing crime rates, specifically rape and molestation in additional to the loss of dignity belonging to all human beings.

We call on our local, state and federal governments to uphold our First Amendment right to free speech by vigorously enforcing all laws against obscenity.

So no porn under a Castle administration?

Check out his platform on drugs:

The Constitution Party will uphold the right of states and localities to restrict access to drugs and to enforce such restrictions. We support legislation to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the United States from foreign sources. As a matter of self-defense, retaliatory policies including embargoes, sanctions, and tariffs, should be considered.

Sounds very anti-drug.

Check out his platform on gambling:

Gambling increases crimes, destroys families, grows governmental bureaucracies, exploits those who are addicted and leaches the economic prosperity out of our communities.. We are opposed to government sponsorship, involvement in, or promotion of gambling such as lotteries, casinos or subsidization of Native American casinos. We call for the repeal of federal legislation that usurps state and local authority regarding authorization and regulation of tribal casinos in the states.

No gambling, either?

Check out his platform on Puerto Rico.

The CP is tripping over the Constitution in order to oppose statehood for Puerto Rico, which isn't even on the radar.
 
It's not just the open borders issue where Castle isn't libertarian. Check out his platform on pornography:



So no porn under a Castle administration?

Check out his platform on drugs:



Sounds very anti-drug.

Check out his platform on gambling:



No gambling, either?

Check out his platform on Puerto Rico.

The CP is tripping over the Constitution in order to oppose statehood for Puerto Rico, which isn't even on the radar.

With the exception of his immigration plan (which I disagree with), those appear to be from the CP and not necessarily Castles positions. I'm not denying he could feel that way, it's just not on his website. Johnson, btw, holds some positions that are against the LP platform.
 
With the exception of his immigration plan (which I disagree with), those appear to be from the CP and not necessarily Castles positions. I'm not denying he could feel that way, it's just not on his website. Johnson, btw, holds some positions that are against the LP platform.

Darrell Castle wrote this piece. It's on his official campaign website. It talks about the homosexual depopulation agenda. It sounds to me like Mr Castle is a bible-thumper masquerading as a liberty advocate. His party would ban porn, gambling, and drugs, and he himself states on his official website that the homosexuals are part of a globalist conspiracy to depopulate the world.

There are folks here who support his message, but let's not pretend it's a libertarian message: it's a biblical, hellfire and brimstone message.
 
Darrell Castle wrote this piece. It's on his official campaign website. It talks about the homosexual depopulation agenda. It sounds to me like Mr Castle is a bible-thumper masquerading as a liberty advocate. His party would ban porn, gambling, and drugs, and he himself states on his official website that the homosexuals are part of a globalist conspiracy to depopulate the world.

There are folks here who support his message, but let's not pretend it's a libertarian message: it's a biblical, hellfire and brimstone message.

That's his opinion and that's fine as long as he doesn't try to legislate it. I have lots of opinions but that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to force them on you. For reference sake, Gary Johnson wants to the GOVERNMENT to legalize gay marriage (I don't give a crap if gays want to get married but GOVERNMENT shouldn't be involved in marriage at all). GJ also wants to FORCE you to serve people you may not want to in your business. Also not libertarian. I'm not arguing that Castle is a libertarian but I think he's better than Johnson. Either way, I don't have a dog in this fight because my standard is Ron Paul. Ya have to be at least as good as him to get me off my ass to vote.

From the op.

This next question ties in with drug policy. Do you see a role for the federal government in regulating and/or prohibiting things such as prostitution, gambling, smoking, polygamous relationships or any other activities made by consenting adults?

No I really don’t. The states are free of course to regulate if their people prefer but I see no Constitutional role in such things except possibly to control the spread of pandemic disease or something of that nature.
 
That's his opinion and that's fine as long as he doesn't try to legislate it. I have lots of opinions but that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to force them on you. For reference sake, Gary Johnson wants to the GOVERNMENT to legalize gay marriage (I don't give a crap if gays want to get married but GOVERNMENT shouldn't be involved in marriage at all). GJ also wants to FORCE you to serve people you may not want to in your business. Also not libertarian. I'm not arguing that Castle is a libertarian but I think he's better than Johnson. Either way, I don't have a dog in this fight because my standard is Ron Paul. Ya have to be at least as good as him to get me off my ass to vote.

From the op.
not a bad philosophy. one i may need to consider. i feel like i have to vote for local issues though
 
not a bad philosophy. one i may need to consider. i feel like i have to vote for local issues though

I vote on local issues but I only support candidates that I feel comfortable endorsing - which happens to be none of the above this go round.
 
That's his opinion and that's fine as long as he doesn't try to legislate it. I have lots of opinions but that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to force them on you.

It's on his official campaign website, Suz. It's the stuff he's writing to get people to vote for him. In the extremely unlikely chance that he were to be elected, one would expect that the things he writes on his official website are his official campaign positions.

For reference sake, Gary Johnson wants to the GOVERNMENT to legalize gay marriage (I don't give a crap if gays want to get married but GOVERNMENT shouldn't be involved in marriage at all).

Gary's position on Kim Davis was this: "This elected official has every right to her religious beliefs, and her right to hold those beliefs should be protected. BUT, using those beliefs to deny the hard-fought legal rights of others is just wrong. If she can't handle that, then it is time to simply quit --without all this drama." I agree with you that government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all, but since it is, the Libertarian Party has had a four-decade-long campaign to recognize gay marriage. This has been a plank of the LP platform since the 1970s, and is the complete opposite of Darrell Castle's "homosexual agenda" stuff.
 
Except they are nothing like actual libertarians.


Meh, close enough. The purity tests and whining on a forum about a candidate who doesn't support [your pet issue here] has got us nowhere. They aren't criminals like Trump and Clinton.
 
It's on his official campaign website, Suz. It's the stuff he's writing to get people to vote for him. In the extremely unlikely chance that he were to be elected, one would expect that the things he writes on his official website are his official campaign positions.

In that article, he never said anything about government doing anything in particular about gays.

Gary's position on Kim Davis was this: "This elected official has every right to her religious beliefs, and her right to hold those beliefs should be protected. BUT, using those beliefs to deny the hard-fought legal rights of others is just wrong. If she can't handle that, then it is time to simply quit --without all this drama." I agree with you that government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all, but since it is, the Libertarian Party has had a four-decade-long campaign to recognize gay marriage. This has been a plank of the LP platform since the 1970s, and is the complete opposite of Darrell Castle's "homosexual agenda" stuff.


1.4 Personal Relationships

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.
https://www.lp.org/platform


I dunno why I add this video, you were talking about gay marriage. Derp. O_o
 
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I don't think he has changed his position in drug access. What he opposes are federal drug laws that put people in jail forever when their only victim was themselves. He thinks states should have the right to make their own laws regarding drugs.
 
Check out his platform on drugs:



Sounds very anti-drug.

Check out your ability to not read.

He explicitly says in his interview

What’s your view of the drug war? And what would be your approach to drugs, as President, from a constitutional standing?

I view the drug war as a total failure and would stop it immediately. The United States certainly has a right to determine what crosses its borders but in general drug policy should be on the state level. I personally favor decriminalization of drugs.
 
I love him. His views on social issues and immigration are one of the top reasons why I prefer the Constitution Party any day over the Libertarian Party.
 
I love him. His views on social issues and immigration are one of the top reasons why I prefer the Constitution Party any day over the Libertarian Party.

I think he's as good as you're going to get as a presidential candidate excluding RP. However, as another member is wont to say we are going to get stuck with the one the general public deserves.
 
Yes I am seeking Dr. Paul’s endorsement and would be honored by it.

I think I'm probably gonna end up validating part of the system -again. 4 NOBP

Remember all that Bob drama? "Lowering the Barr", I think they used to call it.

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2008 Paul, Baldwin, McKinney, Nader: We Agree

The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation. However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every election.

We Agree

Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.

Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.

The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.

The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds.

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