Danke, do something

[Swordsmyth]

[h=2]New Software Glitch Found On 737 MAX That Results In "Uncontrollable Nosedives"[/h]

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=2]'Shoddy Work' - DoJ Expands Boeing Probe Beyond 737 Max To Dreamliner[/h]

 

[Anti Federalist]

[h=2]New Software Glitch Found On 737 MAX That Results In "Uncontrollable Nosedives"[/h]

Yes, this what I want...

 

[Danke]

Just disable the system. I can fly through a high pitch situation.

 

[Danke]

 

[Swordsmyth]

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[Anti Federalist]

Just disable the system. I can fly through a high pitch situation.

Do any modern "fly by wire" aircraft allow a pilot to fully "disable" the system?

 

[Anti Federalist]

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Every day I have to fly commercial, I have one of those days...

 

[TheTexan]

What are you as a paying passenger willing to pay? United has started offering 4 different classes. What one do you are willing to pay for?

Seems pretty silly, the market has decided. It is a response to that.

Don't want a human at the controls to save a few bucks, good luck with that.

I would pay a few extra bucks if the flight guaranteed a male pilot.

I never did understand why airlines thought saving a few bucks by hiring females, at the expense of safety, was a good idea.

 

[Danke]

Do any modern "fly by wire" aircraft allow a pilot to fully "disable" the system?

That particular system can be disabled by turning off the stab trim to cut out. But I'm saying Boeing should disable it.

 

[Danke]

I would pay a few extra bucks if the flight guaranteed a male pilot.

I never did understand why airlines thought saving a few bucks by hiring females, at the expense of safety, was a good idea.

With all the extra training cost, female pilots are more expensive.

 

[Swordsmyth]

With all the extra training cost, female pilots are more expensive.

"Training" costs.

How many have you "trained"?

You should know by now that they are always expensive.

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=2]Boeing Outsourced Its 737 MAX Software To $9-Per-Hour Engineers[/h]

 

[Anti Federalist]

That particular system can be disabled by turning off the stab trim to cut out. But I'm saying Boeing should disable it.

If I'm reading this right MCAS is a not a stall control device, but actually is a flight control enhancement system.

It was fitted because, basically, the new "green" hyper efficient engines on the 737 MAX were so much bigger and mounted so much further forward, that it so negatively affected flight characteristics and control, they had to add this nonsense, that is not automatically overridden by a pilots inputs on the yoke, just to make them airworthy.

That about the long and short of it?

Fuck...even ship's autopilot disengages if you make a manual rudder/thruster change.

 

[Anti Federalist]

[h=2]Boeing Outsourced Its 737 MAX Software To $9-Per-Hour Engineers[/h]

Boeing had recent college graduates working for Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd. in a building across from Seattle's Boeing Field, in flight test groups supporting the MAX. The coders from HCL designed to specifications set by Boeing but, according to Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code.”

Rabin said: “...it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly.”

Just doing those jobs that Americans can't do.

 

[Danke]

If I'm reading this right MCAS is a not a stall control device, but actually is a flight control enhancement system.

It was fitted because, basically, the new "green" hyper efficient engines on the 737 MAX were so much bigger and mounted so much further forward, that it so negatively affected flight characteristics and control, they had to add this nonsense, that is not automatically overridden by a pilots inputs on the yoke, just to make them airworthy.

That about the long and short of it?

Fuck...even ship's autopilot disengages if you make a manual rudder/thruster change.

Runaway trim should stop by opposite yoke movement, but then a cut out switch needs to be thrown to stop it from happening again.

MCAS system was put in place to push the nose down at high AOA. But any well trained/experienced pilot doesn't need the system, that is my point. Even an inexperienced pilot would probably be able to handle those situations without MCAS. MCAS was not explained well by Boeing, pilots were not trained to understand it.

My personal option, it is not necessary. Unless you are of the opinion automation can make up for lack of pilot training and experience.

 

[Danke]

BTW, I was an instructor on the 737 before MCAS.

Some things I'd point out to students. They would have autopilot engage, and above 2500' AGL I tell them to "go-around." Boeing, for whatever reason, made the autopilot disconnect if you hit the TOGA switches above 2500'. (my memory is a little sketchy as it has been 20 years ago, but something like that.)

Anyway, we had some test pilots do that, they pushed the throttles forward as they hit the TOGA switch. Plane appeared to be still on autopilot...it was pitching up as expected.

Problem was, it was the thrust of the engines that pitched it up, much like MCAS is built to prevent. So they finally realized the autopilot was not engaged as the pitch kept increasing and they stalled...luckily they had enough altitude to recover.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Woman Kicked off Flight for Wearing Revealing Top: I Felt ‘Cheap’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-off-flight-wearing-revealing-top-felt-cheap/

AMY FURR 30 Jun 2019

A woman was reportedly kicked off an EasyJet flight after passengers complained about her “revealing” outfit.

Harriet Osborne, 31, was removed from a flight leaving Malaga, Spain, bound for London Stansted Airport on June 23 because her fellow passengers were uncomfortable with the see-through top she was wearing.

“The crew were horrible and made me feel cheap,” the mother and make-up artist said. “This air hostess confronted me in front of the whole plane and said I wasn’t allowed on in that top.”

She told reporters that the crew made her feel “cheap” and that the flight attendant tried to get Osborne to cover herself with her hands.

“She said to me, ‘Oh no, move to the side,’ and tried to cover me up with my hands,” Osborne told reporters.

Passengers allegedly complained to the crew that they did not want children on board the flight to see Osborne’s nipples which they said were clearly visible through the sheer fabric.

However, the airline stated that it had provided Osborne with a top to wear over the blouse but was then forced to remove her from the flight because of her behavior.

EasyJet said:

We can confirm that a passenger travelling from Malaga to Stansted on 23 June was unable to travel due to behaving disruptively. Following concerns about her clothing crew politely requested that the customer wear an additional top for the flight which the customer agreed to. However she then proceeded to act disruptively towards a member of our crew. Our cabin and ground crew are trained to assess all situations and to act quickly and appropriately. We do not tolerate abusive or threatening behaviour towards our staff.”

Osborne said officials at the airport were confused as to why she would be escorted off the plane.

“I was in shock. It was so sexist. I just burst out crying. We had to walk back through the terminal where Spanish police stopped to question us. They were baffled when I told them why we’d been kicked off.”

 

[Danke]

I would not have kicked her off one of my flights.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I would not have kicked her off one of my flights.

We know, you would have offered to train her to fly.