Danke, do something
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Going over the pole from Germany to Alaska, I was a passenger in a large plan doing air refueling. They had to do a break away maneuver (they push over quickly) while I was asleep. ya, I had my seatbelt on, but it was a rude awakening as we were near zero gravity.
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[MENTION=6186]Danke[/MENTION] , do something!
When Airline CEOs Try the Cheap Seats
https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-airline-ceos-try-the-cheap-seats-1532441990
By Scott McCartney
July 24, 2018 10:19 a.m. ET
Have you ever been vacuum-packed into a shrunken coach seat wishing the airline CEO had to endure the same discomfort?
We did that for you, sort of. The Middle Seat asked the chief executives of the big three U.S. airlines to plop down in the back of one of their airplanes and explain why they think the skimpy confines of coach today are acceptable.
Two agreed. Delta CEO Ed Bastian, 6-foot-3, arranged for an interview on his company’s most recently reconfigured Boeing 777-200 in Atlanta. American CEO Doug Parker, also 6-foot-3, snuggled into a coach seat on a reconfigured 777-200 in a Dallas-Fort Worth airport hangar.
One refused: United’s Oscar Munoz declined to be interviewed in a coach seat. Asked why, United declined to comment.
Messrs. Bastian and Parker fit, although knees were kissing distance from the seat in front. Neither had to contend with a middle-seat neighbor to rub shoulders and sides or a passenger reclining in front of them.
Neither apologizes for packing in more, skinnier seats. Their message: If you want more space, buy it.
U.S. airlines in recent years have improved on many fronts, from reducing lost baggage to consistently earning profits. The biggest backslide, at least from the reader emails I receive constantly, is standard coach accommodations.
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When Airline CEOs Try the Cheap Seats
https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-airline-ceos-try-the-cheap-seats-1532441990
By Scott McCartney
July 24, 2018 10:19 a.m. ET
Have you ever been vacuum-packed into a shrunken coach seat wishing the airline CEO had to endure the same discomfort?
We did that for you, sort of. The Middle Seat asked the chief executives of the big three U.S. airlines to plop down in the back of one of their airplanes and explain why they think the skimpy confines of coach today are acceptable.
Two agreed. Delta CEO Ed Bastian, 6-foot-3, arranged for an interview on his company’s most recently reconfigured Boeing 777-200 in Atlanta. American CEO Doug Parker, also 6-foot-3, snuggled into a coach seat on a reconfigured 777-200 in a Dallas-Fort Worth airport hangar.
One refused: United’s Oscar Munoz declined to be interviewed in a coach seat. Asked why, United declined to comment.
Messrs. Bastian and Parker fit, although knees were kissing distance from the seat in front. Neither had to contend with a middle-seat neighbor to rub shoulders and sides or a passenger reclining in front of them.
Neither apologizes for packing in more, skinnier seats. Their message: If you want more space, buy it.
U.S. airlines in recent years have improved on many fronts, from reducing lost baggage to consistently earning profits. The biggest backslide, at least from the reader emails I receive constantly, is standard coach accommodations.
More at link...
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'My boss will call your boss!': Aer Lingus pilot gets into comical stand-off with New York air traffic controller after being made to circle the airport for an hour
http://www.mr-mehra.com/2018/07/my-boss-will-call-your-boss-aer-lingus.html
7 HRS AGO 2 MINUTEREAD
An Aer Lingus pilot and air traffic control got into a heated exchange after taking off from New York's JFK airport on Sunday
The pilot was made to circle the airport for an hour after opting not to take the flight path because he thought the weather was unsafe
Air traffic controller became increasingly agitated as he told the pilot that all other flights were flying through an approaching storm
Flight tracker shows the Aer Lingus flight repeatedly circling the airport
An Aer Lingus pilot has found himself in a crabby exchange with a New York air traffic controller after the two men started arguing about the best flight route to take.
The tense exchange, which was recorded on the radio, started just moments after the Irish pilot took off from JFK airport en route to Dublin on Sunday.
The pilot was made to circle around the airport for an hour by the air traffic controller after opting not to take the flight path because he thought the weather conditions were unsafe.
An Aer Lingus pilot got into a heated exchange with an air traffic controller after he was made to circle around New York's JFK airport for an hour on Sunday after takeoffÂ
An Aer Lingus pilot got into a heated exchange with an air traffic controller after he was made to circle around New York's JFK airport for an hour on Sunday after takeoff
In the three minutes of audio, the air traffic controller can be heard radioing the Aer Lingus flight - referred to as Shamrock 104 Heavy - after takeoff.
The pilot was supposed to take off and fly left across the Atlantic, but he spotted a storm in that direction and opted to head straight while he awaited further instructions.
The controller appeared to become agitated as he told the pilot that all other flights had flown through the storm, insisting that it was 'lightest category'.
'Shamrock 104 Heavy, it's light. I have six categories of weather here, that's the lightest category. I've had no adverse ride reports south of the airport by 10 miles,' the controller said.
A flight tracker shows the Aer Lingus flight repeatedly circling the airport as a new route is worked out.
The pilot was made to circle around the airport for an hour by the air traffic controller after opting not to take the flight path because he thought the weather conditions were unsafe
The pilot was made to circle around the airport for an hour by the air traffic controller after opting not to take the flight path because he thought the weather conditions were unsafe
The controller appeared to become agitated as he told the pilot that all other flights had flown through the storm, insisting that it was 'lightest category'
When the pilot questioned why he couldn't fly in one certain direction, the controller said: 'You've got yourself in this position…'
After going back and forth, the pilot was finally given the all clear to carry on.
'Before I go, we didn't create any situation, we flew the aircraft in a safe manner and my boss will be in contact with your boss. Good day,' the pilot said.
The controller hit back: 'Everybody on the airport is turning left. I mean, there's not too many options here in New York.'
The audio finishes with the pilot saying: 'It's not my first day in New York, it's not my first day in an aircraft. I did what I had to do. Good day.'
http://www.mr-mehra.com/2018/07/my-boss-will-call-your-boss-aer-lingus.html
7 HRS AGO 2 MINUTEREAD
An Aer Lingus pilot and air traffic control got into a heated exchange after taking off from New York's JFK airport on Sunday
The pilot was made to circle the airport for an hour after opting not to take the flight path because he thought the weather was unsafe
Air traffic controller became increasingly agitated as he told the pilot that all other flights were flying through an approaching storm
Flight tracker shows the Aer Lingus flight repeatedly circling the airport
An Aer Lingus pilot has found himself in a crabby exchange with a New York air traffic controller after the two men started arguing about the best flight route to take.
The tense exchange, which was recorded on the radio, started just moments after the Irish pilot took off from JFK airport en route to Dublin on Sunday.
The pilot was made to circle around the airport for an hour by the air traffic controller after opting not to take the flight path because he thought the weather conditions were unsafe.
An Aer Lingus pilot got into a heated exchange with an air traffic controller after he was made to circle around New York's JFK airport for an hour on Sunday after takeoffÂ
An Aer Lingus pilot got into a heated exchange with an air traffic controller after he was made to circle around New York's JFK airport for an hour on Sunday after takeoff
In the three minutes of audio, the air traffic controller can be heard radioing the Aer Lingus flight - referred to as Shamrock 104 Heavy - after takeoff.
The pilot was supposed to take off and fly left across the Atlantic, but he spotted a storm in that direction and opted to head straight while he awaited further instructions.
The controller appeared to become agitated as he told the pilot that all other flights had flown through the storm, insisting that it was 'lightest category'.
'Shamrock 104 Heavy, it's light. I have six categories of weather here, that's the lightest category. I've had no adverse ride reports south of the airport by 10 miles,' the controller said.
A flight tracker shows the Aer Lingus flight repeatedly circling the airport as a new route is worked out.
The pilot was made to circle around the airport for an hour by the air traffic controller after opting not to take the flight path because he thought the weather conditions were unsafe
The pilot was made to circle around the airport for an hour by the air traffic controller after opting not to take the flight path because he thought the weather conditions were unsafe
The controller appeared to become agitated as he told the pilot that all other flights had flown through the storm, insisting that it was 'lightest category'
When the pilot questioned why he couldn't fly in one certain direction, the controller said: 'You've got yourself in this position…'
After going back and forth, the pilot was finally given the all clear to carry on.
'Before I go, we didn't create any situation, we flew the aircraft in a safe manner and my boss will be in contact with your boss. Good day,' the pilot said.
The controller hit back: 'Everybody on the airport is turning left. I mean, there's not too many options here in New York.'
The audio finishes with the pilot saying: 'It's not my first day in New York, it's not my first day in an aircraft. I did what I had to do. Good day.'
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God damn it...
Swiss police confirm 20 dead in WWII vintage plane crash
https://www.breitbart.com/news/swiss-police-confirm-20-dead-in-wwii-vintage-plane-crash/
5 Aug 20187
Flims (Suisse) (AFP) – Twenty people died after a vintage World War II aircraft crashed into a Swiss mountainside, police said Sunday.
“The police have the sad certainty that the 20 people aboard perished,” police spokeswoman Anita Senti told a news conference.
The Junker JU52 HB-HOT aircraft, built in Germany in 1939 and now a collectors’ item, crashed into the Piz Segnas mountain in the east of the country on Saturday.
Swiss police confirm 20 dead in WWII vintage plane crash
https://www.breitbart.com/news/swiss-police-confirm-20-dead-in-wwii-vintage-plane-crash/
5 Aug 20187
Flims (Suisse) (AFP) – Twenty people died after a vintage World War II aircraft crashed into a Swiss mountainside, police said Sunday.
“The police have the sad certainty that the 20 people aboard perished,” police spokeswoman Anita Senti told a news conference.
The Junker JU52 HB-HOT aircraft, built in Germany in 1939 and now a collectors’ item, crashed into the Piz Segnas mountain in the east of the country on Saturday.
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Cellist ‘humiliated,’ kicked off American Airlines flight after buying ticket for instrument
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/c...ticket-for-instrument/RQHm4fp1vi3sKg3bc6pEzL/
22 hours ago
By Lauren Padgett, Cox Media Group National Content Desk
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CHICAGO —
A music student said she was booted off an American Airlines flight from Miami to Chicago because officials refused to let her carry her cello on board -- even though she paid for the instrument to have its own ticket.
>> Read more trending news
Jinging Hu told WMAQ her cello is worth $30,000.
She said she flew to Miami to perform in a music festival, and American Airlines assured her they would be able to accommodate a seat for her instrument on both legs of her trip.
“When I flew from Chicago to Miami, I didn’t have any trouble with that,” Hu told WMAQ. She said the flight crew gave her a special strap to hold the instrument in place.
Federal regulations allow musicians to carry instruments like cellos in the cabin if passengers purchase an additional seat.
When Hu boarded her return flight to Chicago Thursday, she was told to get off the plane, WBBM reported.
Hu said flight staff told her that the cello was too big, and the aircraft was too small to hold the cello.
She said she was escorted off the plane by law enforcement, even though her instrument met the seat size restrictions.
Hu was booked onto a flight out of Miami the next day on a larger aircraft, WBBM reported.
Her husband, Jay Tang, said the way the airline handled the incident was unacceptable.
“I don’t think we did anything wrong here and I think the way they handled it was humiliating,” Tang said.
American Airlines told WMAQ there was a “miscommunication” with Hu about whether or not the cello would fit on board the aircraft.
Officials apologized for the misunderstanding and said “customer relations will be reaching out to her.”
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/c...ticket-for-instrument/RQHm4fp1vi3sKg3bc6pEzL/
22 hours ago
By Lauren Padgett, Cox Media Group National Content Desk
...More
CHICAGO —
A music student said she was booted off an American Airlines flight from Miami to Chicago because officials refused to let her carry her cello on board -- even though she paid for the instrument to have its own ticket.
>> Read more trending news
Jinging Hu told WMAQ her cello is worth $30,000.
She said she flew to Miami to perform in a music festival, and American Airlines assured her they would be able to accommodate a seat for her instrument on both legs of her trip.
“When I flew from Chicago to Miami, I didn’t have any trouble with that,” Hu told WMAQ. She said the flight crew gave her a special strap to hold the instrument in place.
Federal regulations allow musicians to carry instruments like cellos in the cabin if passengers purchase an additional seat.
When Hu boarded her return flight to Chicago Thursday, she was told to get off the plane, WBBM reported.
Hu said flight staff told her that the cello was too big, and the aircraft was too small to hold the cello.
She said she was escorted off the plane by law enforcement, even though her instrument met the seat size restrictions.
Hu was booked onto a flight out of Miami the next day on a larger aircraft, WBBM reported.
Her husband, Jay Tang, said the way the airline handled the incident was unacceptable.
“I don’t think we did anything wrong here and I think the way they handled it was humiliating,” Tang said.
American Airlines told WMAQ there was a “miscommunication” with Hu about whether or not the cello would fit on board the aircraft.
Officials apologized for the misunderstanding and said “customer relations will be reaching out to her.”
Everybody knows that is a dud airline.
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Five killed when small plane crashes in California parking lot
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-plane-crashes-california-parking-lot-n897836
No one on the ground is hurt after the plane, which was attempting an emergency landing, crashed 1½ miles from John Wayne Airport.
by Alex Johnson / Aug.05.2018 / 7:56 PM ET
Five dead after small plane crashes into California parking lot
AUG.05.201801:30
Five people were killed Sunday when a small plane trying to make an emergency landing crashed in a shopping center parking lot in Orange County, California, southeast of Los Angeles, authorities said.
All of the victims, none of whom were immediately identified, were aboard the twin-engine Cessna when it went down at about 12:30 p.m. (3:30 p.m. ET) as it was headed for an emergency landing at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana.
No one on the ground was injured, but an unoccupied car in the parking lot was extensively damaged.
The plane was flying from Northern California and had been given approval to land at John Wayne after the pilot declared an emergency, said Peter Knudson, a spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board, which is investigating along with the Federal Aviation Administration. Information on the nature of the emergency wasn't immediately available.
The plane went down in a parking lot just outside a Staples business supply store about 1½ miles from the airport.
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Knudson said the pilot didn't declare a flight plan and had decided to fly under visual flight rules, which isn't uncommon in good, clear weather.
Orange County Fire Capt. Tony Bommarito said at a news conference that while the plane leaked jet fuel, it didn't ignite.
"I don't know anything about what this pilot did or what he was thinking, but it could have been much more tragic," Bommarito said. "This was a Sunday afternoon, and we have people shopping, so the fact that we have no injuries on the ground is a miracle in itself."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-plane-crashes-california-parking-lot-n897836
No one on the ground is hurt after the plane, which was attempting an emergency landing, crashed 1½ miles from John Wayne Airport.
by Alex Johnson / Aug.05.2018 / 7:56 PM ET
Five dead after small plane crashes into California parking lot
AUG.05.201801:30
Five people were killed Sunday when a small plane trying to make an emergency landing crashed in a shopping center parking lot in Orange County, California, southeast of Los Angeles, authorities said.
All of the victims, none of whom were immediately identified, were aboard the twin-engine Cessna when it went down at about 12:30 p.m. (3:30 p.m. ET) as it was headed for an emergency landing at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana.
No one on the ground was injured, but an unoccupied car in the parking lot was extensively damaged.
The plane was flying from Northern California and had been given approval to land at John Wayne after the pilot declared an emergency, said Peter Knudson, a spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board, which is investigating along with the Federal Aviation Administration. Information on the nature of the emergency wasn't immediately available.
The plane went down in a parking lot just outside a Staples business supply store about 1½ miles from the airport.
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Knudson said the pilot didn't declare a flight plan and had decided to fly under visual flight rules, which isn't uncommon in good, clear weather.
Orange County Fire Capt. Tony Bommarito said at a news conference that while the plane leaked jet fuel, it didn't ignite.
"I don't know anything about what this pilot did or what he was thinking, but it could have been much more tragic," Bommarito said. "This was a Sunday afternoon, and we have people shopping, so the fact that we have no injuries on the ground is a miracle in itself."
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Which is possibly a bigger problem than when he isn't.
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