Dan Bongino spat with Daniel McAdams?

[Swordsmyth]

Guess he has to defend Israel blindly because they're also in on the Warp Speed Holocaust.

More dishonesty from your side, it's all you have. (aside from trying to change the subject)
Nowhere have I defended Israel in any of this.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Doesn't it seem a bit like an unfair characterization to label protesters who are anti-genocide as being pro-Hamas?

I'm sure that there is a spectrum of views amongst the protesters, with not all of them supporting Hamas.

A They portray themselves as pro-Hamas, there are possible exceptions among them but the majority are clear about it.
B Neither Bongino nor I said all of them were, he stated correctly that the NAZIs were strongly involved and that includes Hamas.
Their leaders have direct connections to Hamas and Hamas sympathizers.

 

[jmdrake]

I brought it up in the context of discussing the Palestinian connection to the NAZIs, that was always the topic.

And Soros was a collaborator, his denials and cover story notwithstanding.

If anyone wants to talk about Zionists and their crimes they are welcome to, but the people reacting to Bongino want the Palestinians and their crimes and connections off limits.

You're full of shyt. You called Soros a "self admitted collaborator." You can't walk that back by talking about his so called "denials." The boy was freaking 14 at the time and a hell of a lot braver than you. And the so called Palestinian connection to the Nazis pales in comparison to the Charlottesville connection to the Nazis and the actual SELF ADMITTED ZIONIST CONNECTION WITH THE NAZIS! Until that punk Dan BongoBongo talks about that his sorry ass isn't worth listening to. You dismiss, without evidence, the Nazi leaders of the Charlottesville march as "feds" simply because it fits your narrative. Feds don't usually arrest their own like Christopher Cantwell was arrested and ultimately had to plead guilty to criminal charges and was found civilly liable. But without evidence you're ready to smear and entire group of protesters, and by extension go along with a smear of Ron Paul himself, because you suck up to Dan BongoBongo. Whatever dude.

 

[Invisible Man]

That's the truth he stated and that others tried to deny.

OK. So that is what you were referring to. And the way that you pretend it's true is by saying that some people protesting at campuses sympathizing with Nazis or with groups that have historical connections to the Nazis is the same thing as an actual modern day Nazi Party having a large presence on college campuses.

Throughout this thread, whenever you refer to what Bongino said that you say you agree with, you repeatedly rephrase it in different words than what he actually said, which McAdams rightly mocked.

 

[sparebulb]

A They portray themselves as pro-Hamas, there are possible exceptions among them but the majority are clear about it.
B Neither Bongino nor I said all of them were, he stated correctly that the NAZIs were strongly involved and that includes Hamas.
Their leaders have direct connections to Hamas and Hamas sympathizers.

I love to paint with a broad brush.

I also have to temper such characterizations with realities.

All I can say about people with Hamas sympathies is: So what?

We are free to think and support what we want.

We looked the other way for many decades the monetary support for the IRA and, of course, Israeli terrorist groups.

Personally, I think that monetary support for all violent foreign entities should be controlled. But we know that would be largely fruitless and would go against the interests of government and special interest NGO's, who spread misery throughout the world.

Why is sympathizing with Hamas any different that having a street rally for Sinn Fein?

Irish street festivals and fundraisers happen in every large city in 'murika.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

So hundreds of tiki torch and Nazi flag carrying protestors yelling "Jews will not replace us!" are all feds, but every single Palestinian who agrees with Hitler must be a genuine Nazi and enough to tarnish the entire group? And you actually think you're being intelligent here? That's the funny part.
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Just to correct the record, the actual phrase is "You Will Not Replace Us", which was a rebuttal reference to Shia LeBeouf and the *great replacement theory. I don't know that anyone was carrying a Nazi flag at that rally, unless someone has evidence to the contrary.

Would you believe the SPLC on this?

“You Will Not Replace Us!” This slogan was coined from a statement by Nathan Damigo, founder of the white-nationalist campus group Identity Evropa, who retorted to an anti-Donald Trump “He will not divide us” campaign by actor Shia LeBeouf on social media: “Shia LeBeouf, you will not replace us with your globalism.” The chant is closely related to the white-nationalist “White Genocide” meme, reflective of their fears that white people and white culture are under attack from multiculturalism and nonwhite races. According to the Anti-Defamation League, the slogan began appearing on white-nationalist flyers and banners in May, and has spread widely since then. (At times during the first Charlottesville march, the chant morphed into “Jews Will Not Replace Us!”).
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https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...s-chant-their-weird-slogans-what-do-they-mean

"At times during the first Charlottesville march, the chant morphed into “Jews Will Not Replace Us!”"

That is a direct refence to a propaganda "documentary" produced by Vice. I forget the name of the douchebag they focused the documentary on, but he and a couple of others were the only ones who chanted “Jews Will Not Replace Us!”, specifically for the camera as kind of a joke, playing it up for the "documentary". It was a one-off. They were a joke, but they served their purpose so well that people still quote them. IIRC, the guy later said he wasn't really a white nationalist, and broke down crying on camera because he was afraid that someone was going to get him.

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*The Great Replacement Theory

The Great Replacement (French: Grand Remplacement), also known as replacement theory or great replacement theory ('GRT'), is a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory espoused by French author Renaud Camus. The original theory states that, with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites, the ethnic French and white European populations at large are being demographically and culturally replaced by non-white peoples—especially from Muslim-majority countries—through mass migration, demographic growth and a drop in the birth rate of white Europeans.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement

 

[jmdrake]

Just to correct the record, the actual phrase is "You Will Not Replace Us", which was a rebuttal reference to Shia LeBeouf and the *great replacement theory. I don't know that anyone was carrying a Nazi flag at that rally, unless someone has evidence to the contrary.

Would you believe the SPLC on this?



"At times during the first Charlottesville march, the chant morphed into “Jews Will Not Replace Us!”"

That is a direct refence to a propaganda "documentary" produced by Vice. I forget the name of the douchebag they focused the documentary on, but he and a couple of others were the only ones who chanted “Jews Will Not Replace Us!”, specifically for the camera as kind of a joke, playing it up for the "documentary". It was a one-off. They were a joke, but they served their purpose so well that people still quote them. IIRC, the guy later said he wasn't really a white nationalist, and broke down crying on camera because he was afraid that someone was going to get him.

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*The Great Replacement Theory

Unless their English is really really bad they are saying Jews will not replace us.



The first person in the video is one of the organizers of the Unite The Right rally. i remember in one interview he attacked Donald Trump for letting Ivanka marry a Jew.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Unless their English is really really bad they are saying Jews will not replace us.



The first person in the video is one of the organizers of the Unite The Right rally. i remember in one interview he attacked Donald Trump for letting Ivanka marry a Jew.

Yep. That video at the beginning was the Vice production. The guy in the black shirt that says "Radical Agenda" is the crybaby. As I said, those several guys right there, amplified above the rest of the crowd by Vice, in the words of the SPLC, "morphed" the word "You" into "Jews". It was for the camera.


Edit: More video. Notice the guy in the black t-shirt was obviously hamming it up for the camera (after the 00:15 second mark). Notice he was wearing a microphone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I

Edit: From Wikipedia...I stand corrected. He is known as "The Crying Nazi".

Cantwell was featured prominently in a Vice News Tonight documentary about the rally and its participants, in which he is shown threatening to kill protesters, wielding rifles and a handgun, and joining fellow antisemitic conspiracy theorists in marching with tiki torches, chanting "Jews will not replace us!"

Shortly after the rally, Cantwell published a video in which he wept while sharing that he had learned there was a warrant for his arrest. The video went viral, with some observers noting the discrepancy between the emotional video and the tough persona Cantwell had projected in the Vice documentary. He has since been widely referred to and ridiculed as "The Crying Nazi".
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Cantwell published a blog post confirming that he was working with the government...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Cantwell

 

[Swordsmyth]

You're full of shyt. You called Soros a "self admitted collaborator." You can't walk that back by talking about his so called "denials." The boy was freaking 14 at the time and a hell of a lot braver than you. And the so called Palestinian connection to the Nazis pales in comparison to the Charlottesville connection to the Nazis and the actual SELF ADMITTED ZIONIST CONNECTION WITH THE NAZIS! Until that punk Dan BongoBongo talks about that his sorry ass isn't worth listening to. You dismiss, without evidence, the Nazi leaders of the Charlottesville march as "feds" simply because it fits your narrative. Feds don't usually arrest their own like Christopher Cantwell was arrested and ultimately had to plead guilty to criminal charges and was found civilly liable. But without evidence you're ready to smear and entire group of protesters, and by extension go along with a smear of Ron Paul himself, because you suck up to Dan BongoBongo. Whatever dude.

He admitted going around with the NAZIs while they were seizing assets from other Jews, then he lies and claims that he didn't do anything but watch.
His father had a connection with a NAZI important enough to be assigned to seize the assets who used his power to protect Soros, any Jews Soros helped protect were also being given special protection because they were important and connected.

And you keep lying and claiming I said all the protestors were NAZIs when I never did, I also explicitly said I was not saying that multiple times.

P.S. a Fed's cover is not complete until he's gone to prison to "prove" his sincerity.

The leaders of the protests and associated crimes are authoritarian leftists who are championing the cause of Palestinian Nationalism and have strong ties to Hamas and Fatah that have direct historical ties to the WWII NAZIs and who celebrate them and promote them in their schools.

The protests are led by NAZIs.
That doesn't mean there are not a lot of useful idiot leftists who just want to destroy America, and protest Israel's war. (while giving a total pass to the terrorists who did the attack that started the war)

 

[Swordsmyth]

I love to paint with a broad brush.

I also have to temper such characterizations with realities.

All I can say about people with Hamas sympathies is: So what?

We are free to think and support what we want.

We looked the other way for many decades the monetary support for the IRA and, of course, Israeli terrorist groups.

Personally, I think that monetary support for all violent foreign entities should be controlled. But we know that would be largely fruitless and would go against the interests of government and special interest NGO's, who spread misery throughout the world.

Why is sympathizing with Hamas any different that having a street rally for Sinn Fein?

Irish street festivals and fundraisers happen in every large city in 'murika.

Was the IRA trying to destroy America? did the people supporting them commit crimes in America?
If so then we should have condemned and prosecuted them too.
That doesn't mean we should then have taken the UK's side or Ireland's side in the dispute over N. Ireland.

 

[jmdrake]

He admitted going around with the NAZIs while they were seizing assets from other Jews, then he lies and claims that he didn't do anything but watch.
His father had a connection with a NAZI important enough to be assigned to seize the assets who used his power to protect Soros, any Jews Soros helped protect were also being given special protection because they were important and connected.

And you keep lying and claiming I said all the protestors were NAZIs when I never did, I also explicitly said I was not saying that multiple times.

P.S. a Fed's cover is not complete until he's gone to prison to "prove" his sincerity.

The leaders of the protests and associated crimes are authoritarian leftists who are championing the cause of Palestinian Nationalism and have strong ties to Hamas and Fatah that have direct historical ties to the WWII NAZIs and who celebrate them and promote them in their schools.

The protests are led by NAZIs.
That doesn't mean there are not a lot of useful idiot leftists who just want to destroy America, and protest Israel's war. (while giving a total pass to the terrorists who did the attack that started the war)

A 14 year old kid who warned Jews to escape when he had the opportunity and was a spectator to Nazi confiscation of Jewish property is not the same as a Nazi collaborator who helped confiscate Jewish property. Again you're full of shyt.

But again, he was a fvcking 14 year old kid at the time! Jewish slaves were forced to help build Nazi rockets. By your twisted logic that makes them Nazis.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...~:text=These and similar,the Zolpidem talking.

These and similar claims rely mainly on three sources: a 60 Minutes interview with Soros, the autobiography of Soros’s father, and an assortment of Soros’s personal statements on his boyhood in Nazi-occupied Hungary.

Soros was a toddler when Hitler was appointed chancellor and just 7 years old when Germany annexed Austria. When the Nazi regime began occupying Hungary in 1944, he was 13.

As anti-Semitism grew, George’s father Tivadar changed the Jewish family’s surname to Soros. Tivadar secured false Christian identity papers for his family. As Tivadar notes in his autobiography Masquerade, during the occupation of Hungary George was tasked by the Jewish Council, as all Jewish kids were, to deliver summons for Jewish families “to report tomorrow morning at 9 o’clock at the Rabbinical Seminary in Rokk Szildrd Street. Please bring with you a blanket, and food for two days.”

According to his father, George told the recipients not to oblige with the demand. Once Tivadar found out about the summons, he ordered his son to no longer deliver them.

George’s account varies a bit from Tivadar’s retelling. In a 1994 interview with Michael Lewis for the New Republic, Soros recalled that his father told him to warn people to disobey the summons lest they be deported:

The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper. It was three or four lines. It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m. tomorrow morning. Bring a blanket and food for twenty-four hours. And I was given a list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it, you see. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, “You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported.” I’m not sure to what extent he knew they were going to be gassed. I did what my father said. There was one man I shall not forget. I took it to him and told him what my father had said. He said: “Tell your father that I am a law-abiding citizen, that I have always been a law-abiding citizen and I am not going to start breaking the law now.” And that stayed with me forever.

During the later part of this tumultuous time, George went for a few weeks to live with a government official whose duty it was to take inventory of Hungarian Jews who had been divested of their estates. The official was not only helping to protect Soros but also his own Jewish wife.

Soros’s biographer and his father’s account both confirm that George went along for one of these inventory trips in Budapest, assuming the role as “godson” to the official. While Tivadar claims in his autobiography that George “even helped with the inventory” the biography of Soros by Michael Kaufman suggests that Soros did not assist with the inventory. All of this occurred while George Soros, a Jew, was hiding under a false identity as a young teenager in Nazi-occupied Hungary. As other fact checkers have noted, this is the only account of anything relating to George Soros and the inventory of dispossessed Jews.

Many who peddle the “George Soros was a Nazi” conspiracy rely on a 60 Minutes interview with Soros from 1998. During the interview, Soros was asked if he “helped in the confiscation of the property from the Jews” to which he responded “yes, that’s right.” Later on in that same line of questioning, Soros says that he “was only a spectator” and “had no role in taking away that property.”

Claims that Soros was a Nazi sympathizer or that he helped “round up Jewish people” and stole “their wealth” are quite inaccurate. Perhaps for Barr, it was just the Zolpidem talking.
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[sparebulb]

Was the IRA trying to destroy America? did the people supporting them commit crimes in America?
If so then we should have condemned and prosecuted them too.
That doesn't mean we should then have taken the UK's side or Ireland's side in the dispute over N. Ireland.

You seem to have missed the point.

I'm quite sure that laws were broken in providing material support to the IRA.

Hamas does not want to "destroy America". Or at least they didn't before we've now officially declared genocide upon them with our resources and rhetoric like you have repeated.

Also, please remember that Hamas is an invention of Israel.

And Israel does hate America.

America is a $2 whore and loyal donkey to them.

 

[Invisible Man]

You seem to have missed the point.

I'm quite sure that laws were broken in providing material support to the IRA.

Hamas does not want to "destroy America". Or at least they didn't before we've now officially declared genocide upon them with our resources and rhetoric like you have repeated.

What does "destroy America" even mean?

If it means eliminating the regime in Washington, DC, then who in their right mind could possibly not be for that?

 

[oyarde]

What does "destroy America" even mean?

If it means eliminating the regime in Washington, DC, then who in their right mind could possibly not be for that?

from personal experience living in many other countries as a younger man , if you hear a general caliphate type belief person talk about american destruction they are opposed not to just our less than favorable govt but to capitalist type economic societies as well .Most are very, very marxist type people. Now if they oppose economic freedom out of some certain principle or only because they dont like all the social freedom in there , hard to tell . Most are not overly bright, but most Americans are not as well. I consider many of them dangerous to my future freedom not because of the religious practices but the economic views. Most wouldnt be capable of ever coming around to free market type views.

 

[jmdrake]

Was the IRA trying to destroy America? did the people supporting them commit crimes in America?
If so then we should have condemned and prosecuted them too.
That doesn't mean we should then have taken the UK's side or Ireland's side in the dispute over N. Ireland.

If supporting Palestinian terrorism makes you a Nazi then the IRA is far more Nazi than these campus protesters by far. There were murals like this all over Northern Ireland during the troubles.

And Gaddafi also supplied the IRA weapons.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-12539372

The 38-year connection between Irish republicans and Gaddafi
Published
23 February 2011

Share
Aftermath of the Enniskillen bomb in 1987
Image caption,
Attacks carried out with Libyan Semtex included the Enniskillen bomb in 1987
As Libyans fight against a 42-year dictatorship, deputy first Minister Martin McGuinness has said he feels no shame about republicans' past links with Colonel Gaddafi.

Speaking to the BBC's Political Editor Mark Devenport about the situation in Libya, Mr McGuinness said he condemned the regime's attacks on unarmed protestors.

He said he supported those rising up against monarchies and fiefdoms in the Middle East.

So what exactly is the link between Colonel Gaddafi and Northern Ireland?

In the 1960s the Provisional IRA was badly armed, relying on old weapons, some dating back to World War II.

Muammar Gaddafi, who took over Libya in a 1969 coup, saw the IRA as a comrade-in-arms fighting British imperialism and he was partly responsible for providing it with more modern weaponry.

The first proven connection with Libya was discovered in 1973 when the Irish Navy boarded a ship called the Claudia, off the Irish coast.

They found five tonnes of weaponry supplied by Libya.

Links between Gaddafi and the IRA re-emerged in 1986 after Gaddafi's adopted daughter was killed along with more than 100 other people by US bombing raids launched from UK bases.

The Libyan leader has said he resumed contact with the IRA in the aftermath of those air raids.

A year later, French authorities stopped a ship, the Eksund, which was on its way to Northern Ireland carrying around 1,000 AK-47 machine guns, more than 50 ground-to-air missiles and two tonnes of Semtex.

It is believed that other shipments of arms reached Ireland before the Eskund was apprehended.

In 2003, the BBC's Mark Devenport spoke to an intelligence source who said there was no question that Libyan arms had greatly enhanced the IRA's deadliness.​

Here's a Northern IRA mural in tribute to Gaddafi.

You were saying?

 

[John-G]

I was listening to Dan Bongino in my car on my lunch break today and he started going off on Daniel McAdams regarding some argument they had on Twitter. He wouldn't say what McAdams said, but kept insinuating he hated Jews. He brought up his association with Ron Paul and interestingly didn't say anything bad about Ron.

All in all it might have been good publicity.

Anyway, does anybody know the details about that?

Is that the young man who got the covid shot just so he will be in compliance with the health establishment? Thats him, the man has huge holes in his politics.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I'm quite sure that laws were broken in providing material support to the IRA.

Then they should be treated the way the criminal protestors should be.

Hamas does not want to "destroy America". Or at least they didn't before we've now officially declared genocide upon them with our resources and rhetoric like you have repeated.

That's false, radical islamists like Hamas have always wanted to destroy Christendom and subject the world to islam by the sword.
There have been things that have caused the problem to be worse, but that doesn't change the fact that we must oppose those who want to destroy us within our own country.

Also, please remember that Hamas is an invention of Israel.

And Israel does hate America.

America is a $2 whore and loyal donkey to them.

Just more reason we should crack down.

I'm not defending or asking for support for Israel, but I am saying we need to crush the crimes being committed.

 

[Swordsmyth]

What does "destroy America" even mean?

If it means eliminating the regime in Washington, DC, then who in their right mind could possibly not be for that?

It means killing you or forcing you to obey sharia law while creating a socialist/communist authoritarian state to destroy all your rights as allies of the communists.
Funny how so many of your positions give aid and comfort to that kind of thing.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If supporting Palestinian terrorism makes you a Nazi then the IRA is far more Nazi than these campus protesters by far. There were murals like this all over Northern Ireland during the troubles.

And Gaddafi also supplied the IRA weapons.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-12539372

The 38-year connection between Irish republicans and Gaddafi
Published
23 February 2011

Share
Aftermath of the Enniskillen bomb in 1987
Image caption,
Attacks carried out with Libyan Semtex included the Enniskillen bomb in 1987
As Libyans fight against a 42-year dictatorship, deputy first Minister Martin McGuinness has said he feels no shame about republicans' past links with Colonel Gaddafi.

Speaking to the BBC's Political Editor Mark Devenport about the situation in Libya, Mr McGuinness said he condemned the regime's attacks on unarmed protestors.

He said he supported those rising up against monarchies and fiefdoms in the Middle East.

So what exactly is the link between Colonel Gaddafi and Northern Ireland?

In the 1960s the Provisional IRA was badly armed, relying on old weapons, some dating back to World War II.

Muammar Gaddafi, who took over Libya in a 1969 coup, saw the IRA as a comrade-in-arms fighting British imperialism and he was partly responsible for providing it with more modern weaponry.

The first proven connection with Libya was discovered in 1973 when the Irish Navy boarded a ship called the Claudia, off the Irish coast.

They found five tonnes of weaponry supplied by Libya.

Links between Gaddafi and the IRA re-emerged in 1986 after Gaddafi's adopted daughter was killed along with more than 100 other people by US bombing raids launched from UK bases.

The Libyan leader has said he resumed contact with the IRA in the aftermath of those air raids.

A year later, French authorities stopped a ship, the Eksund, which was on its way to Northern Ireland carrying around 1,000 AK-47 machine guns, more than 50 ground-to-air missiles and two tonnes of Semtex.

It is believed that other shipments of arms reached Ireland before the Eskund was apprehended.

In 2003, the BBC's Mark Devenport spoke to an intelligence source who said there was no question that Libyan arms had greatly enhanced the IRA's deadliness.​

Here's a Northern IRA mural in tribute to Gaddafi.

You were saying?

You think you made some kind of point?
The IRA were also authoritarian socialists championing a nationalist cause using violence and crime who collaborated with the historical NAZIs.

 

[acptulsa]

There have been things that have caused the problem to be worse, but that doesn't change the fact that we must oppose those who want to destroy us within our own country.

Says the die hard fan of Daddy Jab.