Currency Devaluation by Design?

[anonymous6728]

Given 9/11, the fact that we are engaged in this never-ending war on terror, we live under the Patriot Act, & Homeland Security is in place, would it make sense for the US to purposely devalue it's currency to cause a depression? Congressman Paul has illustrated the self-destructive nature of our monetary policy many times, but gets nothing but the runaround.

Crashing the currency is a vicious way to destroy a country. There are three distinct phases in the response and reaction to stress displayed by large social groups:

First, there is superficiality; the population under attack will defend itself with campaigns, slogans and marches; this does not address the cause of the crisis and therefore does nothing to correct it, hence the crisis will persist. Is this not a perfect description of the Ron Paul Hope for America Campaign?

The second is fragmentation. This occurs as the crisis continues, the economy crashes and social order breaks down. During this phase gas, bread, & bank lines are common. Crime is widespread and panic grips the nation.

The third phase where the population group succumbs to the induced crisis and follows a maladaptive response (insanity, suicide, lashing out), accompanied with active synoptic idealism (looking for the silver lining) and disassociation (folks get loaded to cope).

People at this point are very easy to control. They can be rounded up, placed in camps and chipped like cattle. Are we witnessing a thinning of the herd to effectively manage before WWIII breaks out? What do you think?

 

[Mayflower]

I am not as articulate as you, but the answer is YES. Our ecomony is being destroyed by design. Every time Bernake lowers the interest rate our dollar goes down. The powers that be want to destroy America, they then believe that we will accept regional government and eventually One World Government.I read this in a small paper (I don't remember which one) America has had a good ride, but it is time to realize that America does not deserve to have more than the rest of the world!!! We all must be activists and educate, educate, and EDUCATE our fellow patriots.

 

[Signzit]

I think both of you, in your own way have stated the possibilities quite well.

however I think it will be much faster and more sweeping. I mean, if most people are temporarily in camps, they will be much more agreeable to... whatever,

new rules, governments, codes, IDs, chips-- just about anything to get back to some sense of normalcy.

People will sign and agree, if they can have their family members back and a hot meal, and that's what it will all boil down to; your family and food.

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course this is nothing new. read the book, 'The Creature from Jekyll Island', or see the movie 'money masters' on Google video

This book should be required reading. And by all means do your own research.

covered are: founding of the Federal Reserve, war mongering, bail-outs, boom-bust cycles,
the J.P.Morgans and Rothschilds of the world,
the history of central banking in the United States, and most fascinating: how the money system really works in this country.

 

[sratiug]

I think you are correct. Because that's what they're doing.

I had a thought that it would be cool if a Native American tribe started minting gold and silver coins in weights according to Dr. Paul's plan for currency reform. Would they have more legal right to do it? It would be "American" money, for sure, lol... and Some of the tribes probably have the money to set it up, I would think? They could accept them in the casinos and pay their employees with them and payout gambling winnings. It could be big publicity, too.

 

[Zippyjuan]

The dollar falls in value relative to other currencies when the Fed cuts interest rates because other countries like Europe are not cutting their rates at the same time. Internal investors (from individuals to countries) want to maximize their returns so if we cut our rates, they can get a better rate of return (without necessarily increasing their risks) by purchasing Euros and investing their money in Europe instead of buying dollars and investing them in our country. This means less demand for dollars and more demand for Euros- leading to a higher value for the Euro relative to the dollar.

 

[WV Freedom Fighter]

I think they are intentionally destroying the dollar to get us to accept the Amero, the new currency of the NAU.

 

[Johnny Crab]

It's all right here.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/14534/

Guess who belongs to this little club?
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html

And let us know if you recognize any names here:
http://www.cfr.org/about/people/board_of_directors.html

Here's a nice study topic presented there:
"Fear and Hitler's Instant Subversion of Freedom"
http://www.cfr.org/publication/1568...readcrumb=/issue/136/us_strategy_and_politics

 

[raystone]

It's all right here.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/14534/

Guess who belongs to this little club?
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html

And let us know if you recognize any names here:
http://www.cfr.org/about/people/board_of_directors.html

Here's a nice study topic presented there:
"Fear and Hitler's Instant Subversion of Freedom"
http://www.cfr.org/publication/1568...readcrumb=/issue/136/us_strategy_and_politics

Holy S***! They promote their agenda in the book section?! As if I wasn't already freaked out enough learning about the ugly inside of our country.

 

[Zippyjuan]

The Council on Foreign Relations is comprised by people with a wide variety of backgrounds. They do not necessarily agree with all the publications they publish. They also have this publication on their list: "The Perils of a Weak Dollar".
http://www.cfr.org/publication/1551...ml?breadcrumb=/issue/12/international_finance If what they publish reflects what they want to do (even if they had the power) then they must be against the weak dollar.

The first publication you link to does not indicate that the author favors currency integration or not. It may just be presenting the issue from both sides. It does not mean that the author or publisher are in favor of integrating currencies in North America. I have not read the book but if you have, perhaps you can quote something of what they say about that. I would expect a balanced report.

Another article they have there takes a good look at the effects of the lower dollar and how it has been happening: http://www.cfr.org/publication/14781/setser.html

Maybe we should just join forces with whoever wants to overthrow the US government and let them set up a better system for us. The Islamic Republic of America? We like to criticize what we live under, but who has better alternatives? What country would you rather live under?
The Euro is stronger now- are they better than we are? They have more socialist states, higher tax rates, and unemployment. Their economies have not historically grown as fast as the US.

 

[dsentell]

I have been telling people for years that everything is designed to lead to the NAU. The largest roadblock was the United States. So, to achieve the NAU, the US must be destroyed. Many attacks are being made from every direction: leave the borders open allowing a literal invasion of illegals, while NAFTA, CAFTA, Greenspan and Bernanke destroy the economy, and a president and government bankrupt the country by throwing money around like it is nothing . . . .

Yes, it is intentional, it is planned.

Whether you like Alex Jones or not, the title of one of his works is on target:

America: Destroyed by Design

 

[Signzit]

The Council on Foreign Relations is comprised by people with a wide variety...

...just join forces with whoever wants to overthrow the US government and let them set up a better system for us. The Islamic Republic of America? We like to criticize what we live under, but who has better alternatives? What country would you rather live under?
The Euro is stronger now- are they better than we are? They have more socialist states, higher tax rates, and unemployment. Their economies have not historically grown as fast as the US.

again, yet another one, in denial or complicity. What will it take? The Euro is up now, cuz they want it up!

Damn, no wonder Alex Jones throws bombs all the time.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Which "they" are you refering to?

 

[mordechai]

The people who are running the Bank of International Settlements, the Federal Reserve, and the European Central Bank. That is the manipulators.

Look at the currencies of the various Euro-zone countries before they went to the Euro. All those nations had devaluations of their local currencies which the Euro magically "replaced" (although of course, it screwed alot of people at the exchange rates it was done in). We are being set up for the Amero, and a common trade zone here. We'll have a tariff through a "VAT" structure. Mexico will play the function for US and Canada that Eastern Europe plays for the EU. Cheap labour, held low artificially, regardless of market considerations. (And a government which I believe will be willing to do whatever it feels necessary to make things stay that way)

There will be every attempt in the next few years to silence people who speak out against this blatent treason. Treason will prosper because "None will dare call it treason."

What happens after that? I don't know. And while Euro-streamlining was relatively smooth, there is no telling what will happen here.

But, I do know people like us will not be popular in a variety of circles. Right now, in Europe, the EU censures Euro-sceptic parties, and European media paints them as extreme right wing Nazis. Heard some of the things they call the Good Doctor?

We're having game run on us now.

 

[Signzit]

The people who are running the Bank of International Settlements, the Federal Reserve, and the European Central Bank. That is the manipulators.

Look at the currencies of the various Euro-zone countries before they went to the Euro. All those nations had devaluations of their local currencies which the Euro magically "replaced" (although of course, it screwed alot of people at the exchange rates it was done in). We are being set up for the Amero, and a common trade zone here. We'll have a tariff through a "VAT" structure. Mexico will play the function for US and Canada that Eastern Europe plays for the EU. Cheap labour, held low artificially, regardless of market considerations. (And a government which I believe will be willing to do whatever it feels necessary to make things stay that way)

There will be every attempt in the next few years to silence people who speak out against this blatent treason. Treason will prosper because "None will dare call it treason."

What happens after that? I don't know. And while Euro-streamlining was relatively smooth, there is no telling what will happen here.

But, I do know people like us will not be popular in a variety of circles. Right now, in Europe, the EU censures Euro-sceptic parties, and European media paints them as extreme right wing Nazis. Heard some of the things they call the Good Doctor?

We're having game run on us now.

Thanks for that, while I and Others here appreciate you breaking down "they" so well, I don't really think Zippyjuan cares.

I would like to add, every single country in Europe was against the Euro but it still happened; I was there and saw the riots in the streets.

Again, very well put, thanks!

None dare call it treason! a great book!

 

[Zippyjuan]

We have China for cheap labor- why would we need Mexico? Although strengthening the Mexican economy and creating jobs there would help reduce the numbers who would want to cross illegally into the US.
We need jobs here too.

 

[Johnny Crab]

again, yet another one, in denial or complicity. What will it take? The Euro is up now, cuz they want it up!

Actually the Fed must have printed more FIATs than the EuroFolks thus we're worth(less). $200 billion last week. The Fed fall guy asking banks to cut near-default loanowners some slack? When is the last time THAT happened?

 

[Deborah K]

Congressman Virgil Goode has introduced HCR40. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.con.res.00040: It is an effort to stop all of this. Ron Paul is one of the co-sponsors. Look at the list of co-sponsors: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HC00040:@@@P If your congressman is not on that list, please contact me and I'll give you materials to pass along and convince your rep to sign on. Many states have introduced legislation to stop it as well. Our job is also to convince the media mall zombies, I've been giving that a lot of thought lately and I think we need to write a book or pamphlet exposing the media.

 

[Deborah K]

It's all right here.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/14534/

Guess who belongs to this little club?
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html

And let us know if you recognize any names here:
http://www.cfr.org/about/people/board_of_directors.html

Here's a nice study topic presented there:
"Fear and Hitler's Instant Subversion of Freedom"
http://www.cfr.org/publication/1568...readcrumb=/issue/136/us_strategy_and_politics

Good work here. Btw, your avatar reminds me of the movie 'Braveheart'. Was it taken from that movie, it's so small I can't tell. Anyway, Braveheart is my all time favorite movie, even though it isn't entirely, historically accurate.

 

[Signzit]

We have China for cheap labor- why would we need Mexico? Although strengthening the Mexican economy and creating jobs there would help reduce the numbers who would want to cross illegally into the US.
We need jobs here too.

Wealth is being forced out of this country.

The Mexican thing? Mexico is just a middle man so they can add their pound to the scales. this allows them in to our consumer stream of cash with out it and NAFTA Mexico was and wil be the a big shit hole. The goal is to equalize the monies around the world, so they might be merged into 1. How can they do that to a country has the highest GDP in the world.

Just 30-40 years ago we made everything, we bought form ourselves and we fed the world. We went to the worlds richest most productive country to a consumer based economy, where 70% of GDP is spending!

Now, somehow we are expected to spend our way to prosperity. It's whack, the only way for this to have happen to our great country, is by plan!

Bought and paid for Washington DC people are to blame!

 

[Zippyjuan]

I certainly agree with what you say about the economy. We do spend too much and make too little. That cannot continue. Both at the individual level and the governmental level.