CRITICAL!! Winning MI per Jefferson County, IA

[NoPants]

Okay, that's looking good. The only other suggestion I have would be to change

YOUR VOTE CAN COUNT!

to

MICHIGAN DEMOCRATS, YOUR VOTE CAN COUNT!

or

MICHIGAN DEMOCRATS, YOUR VOTE CAN STILL COUNT!

I like the idea. I played with something like that first. It's just too long for a headline in a 1/4 page ad.

It might be possible to have something like:

DEMOCRAT VOTES COUNT! or DEMOCRAT VOTERS UNITE! or even DEMOCRATS, YOUR VOTE COUNTS! (even that's pushing it)

There's no way we can include the word MICHIGAN in the title. Besides, it's redundant when run in a Michigan paper.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Just to be clear, your plan is to recruit all of the Transcendental Meditation Natural Law supporters in Michigan?

 

[AnalogDan]

I like this ad. It debunks the partisanly-divided issue. RP being a republican is not a favorable thing for him; I think many unaware Americans feel like George Bush=republican=bad; thus, Ron Paul=republican=bad.

 

[Sey.Naci]

Spelling error: 'withdrawl' should be withdrawal. The original is missing the last 'a'.

Some clean-up notes for RP side:

Instead of the first, use the second:
* Voted against war in Congress --> Voted against the Iraq war. [You've already noted that he's a Congressman, which is where he would be casting his votes; and the way it's worded currently sounds like he's voting against a warring Congress ]
* Supports eliminating all federal taxes in America --> Supports eliminating the federal income tax
* Supports removing the IRS and the need to file federal taxes --> Supports removing the IRS and the need to file a federal income tax return

And here:
There is a lot we can agree on --> There is much we can agree on.

 

[NoPants]

Spelling error: 'withdrawl' should be withdrawal. The original is missing the last 'a'.

Some clean-up notes for RP side:

Instead of the first, use the second:
* Voted against war in Congress --> Voted against the Iraq war. [You've already noted that he's a Congressman, which is where he would be casting his votes; and the way it's worded currently sounds like he's voting against a warring Congress ]
* Supports eliminating all federal taxes in America --> Supports eliminating the federal income tax
* Supports removing the IRS and the need to file federal taxes --> Supports removing the IRS and the need to file a federal income tax return

And here:
There is a lot we can agree on --> There is much we can agree on.

Thank you, all changes are now included. I especially like "There is much we can agree on."

Thanks.

 

[Ilhaguru]

The similarity ad makes Paul sound extreme and Obama realistic.

You can't beat simply talking about "supports lower taxes", "voted against the war" and "voted against the Patriot Act".

Tell Obama supporters Obama played in the Bush tactic and voted for funding the war and that he won't get the troops out ASAP.

 

[NoPants]

The similarity ad makes Paul sound extreme and Obama realistic.

You can't beat simply talking about "supports lower taxes", "voted against the war" and "voted against the Patriot Act".

Tell Obama supporters Obama played in the Bush tactic and voted for funding the war and that he won't get the troops out ASAP.

This isn't targeted at "converting" Obama supporters. The idea is to show Michigan voters that Ron Paul has many similar views to Obama. The reason the Paul stances are more extreme is to appeal to these voters and show that Dr. Paul wants the same thing but is willing to go even further with it and do it sooner.

We don't want to say negative things about Obama in an ad like this. Democrat's votes won't count towards delegates in Michigan anyway so we're suggesting the next best thing. It's almost a protest vote against both parties that we're trying to enlist from Democrats. If we're lucky, they'll become interested and take the next step of converting themselves without our pressure.

 

[quantized]

The similarity ad makes Paul sound extreme and Obama realistic.

You can't beat simply talking about "supports lower taxes", "voted against the war" and "voted against the Patriot Act".

Tell Obama supporters Obama played in the Bush tactic and voted for funding the war and that he won't get the troops out ASAP.

There are many Obama supporters who know Ron Paul had him as their second choice candidate. The last thing we want is to alienate them. We are now appealing to their votes. It makes no sense to bash their candidate senselessly when Ron had said in the first place his position and Obama's are VERY similar, it actually boils down to one being an idealist, one is the compromiser. Also, the attack ads i've seen on Obama are so lame. You should see those anti-Hillary videos and you will know what it means by attack ads.

 

[tamor]

This is an interesting idea for a unusual situation - go for it and see the results.

 

[thegr8drronpaul]

I posted this in the other thread, but here goes again:

Wow, this is REALLY good. A nice comparison showing that if they like Obama, they'd love Ron Paul. What are your plans for using this?

Are you in Michigan or nearby where you could distribute these and get addresses for Obama supporters? Also, which is the other state that had this same thing happen. We need to get ready to use these there too.

 

[mokkan88]

Switch the wording around. Obama should be the "supports" and Paul should be the "wants". It sounds insignificant, but it isn't: in the context of a presidential candidate, wanting to do something is more assertive than simply supporting it.

Be careful though - you don't want to turn off independents for Ron Paul by claiming that Obama (who has a better chance to be elected) is too similar a candidate. You should find at least one major difference that is relevant - like Ron Paul's experience in Congress (Obama lacks experience).

 

[thegr8drronpaul]

Switch the wording around. Obama should be the "supports" and Paul should be the "wants". It sounds insignificant, but it isn't: in the context of a presidential candidate, wanting to do something is more assertive than simply supporting it.

Be careful though - you don't want to turn off independents for Ron Paul by claiming that Obama (who has a better chance to be elected) is too similar a candidate. You should find at least one major difference that is relevant - like Ron Paul's experience in Congress (Obama lacks experience).

Excellent point - I agree.

 

[NoPants]

Switch the wording around. Obama should be the "supports" and Paul should be the "wants". It sounds insignificant, but it isn't: in the context of a presidential candidate, wanting to do something is more assertive than simply supporting it.

Be careful though - you don't want to turn off independents for Ron Paul by claiming that Obama (who has a better chance to be elected) is too similar a candidate. You should find at least one major difference that is relevant - like Ron Paul's experience in Congress (Obama lacks experience).

Great point, I'll work on that now.

 

[flare475]

I posted this in the other thread, but here goes again:

Wow, this is REALLY good. A nice comparison showing that if they like Obama, they'd love Ron Paul. What are your plans for using this?

Are you in Michigan or nearby where you could distribute these and get addresses for Obama supporters? Also, which is the other state that had this same thing happen. We need to get ready to use these there too.

Florida would be the other state.

 

[NoPants]

Switch the wording around. Obama should be the "supports" and Paul should be the "wants". It sounds insignificant, but it isn't: in the context of a presidential candidate, wanting to do something is more assertive than simply supporting it.

Be careful though - you don't want to turn off independents for Ron Paul by claiming that Obama (who has a better chance to be elected) is too similar a candidate. You should find at least one major difference that is relevant - like Ron Paul's experience in Congress (Obama lacks experience).

Ok, I've swapped the "Supports" vs. "Wants" text from Obama to Dr. Paul. I'm not quite sure how to work in the experience part yet because of the spacing being so tight already. I'm going to keep trying some things and see if I can come up with anything.

 

[NoPants]

Florida would be the other state.

I plan to create one with Florida's dates as well and post it in the "Winning Florida" forum.

 

[american empire]

Be careful though - you don't want to turn off independents for Ron Paul by claiming that Obama (who has a better chance to be elected) is too similar a candidate. You should find at least one major difference that is relevant - like Ron Paul's experience in Congress (Obama lacks experience).

it doesnt matter b/c this is an in MI .....there is NO Obama on the ballot....

Okay this is IMPORTANT....also include that Obama will not be on the ballot ..........many will NOT know this....I know it is stupid ...but trust me they will not........so if they want to cast a vote against the Iraq war ...they should vot for our guy......

 

[Dexter_Roseville]

Ok, this is a draft. I need feedback on the idea and especially my text. I always have spelling errors. It's sized for a 1/4 page newspaper ad. There may not be time to get it out in Michigan but it's worth a try. We can use these in Florida too where Dems. lost the delegates also.



Click here to view the full size image.

(this is based on the concept by PimpBlimp )

Would you mind if I sent this to my local meetup group and asked them to help fund it for Detroit Free Press? How would I give credits to you?

 

[flare475]

I like this ad for simplicity and urgency:
http://files.meetup.com/497390/DesertValleyTimesNV_RonPaul_Ad_v2.gif

I also agree it's too complicated to compare to the Democrats. Only Ron Paul is standing for the Constitution and that needs to be the focus. And instill some urgency into it (subtle/oblique reference to vote fraud).

This ad has a good message and all, but I don't see it sticking out and catching one's attention because of its simplicity. Some people would just overlook it while glancing though the paper. The one by NoPants to me seems to be eye catching and would grab my attention with the images of both Obama and Ron Paul. Obama supporters would see it and would want to know what is being said about their candidate.

 

[ldevlugt]

Keep It Up!

It's great to see progress being made to implement this successful strategy! Please feel free to reach out to me with any help that may be needed. In liberty.