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Every time there is a "crisis" it costs us dearly in terms of freedom and dollars. And even though this has been repeated over and over, time and again, the people still do not learn.
Immigration and The Wall.
I cannot seem to find hard numbers. DHS has some data and projections, MIT uses words such as "could", WaPo and others speculate. But what is interesting is that for years immigration numbers have been on the DECLINE - up until the mid-term elections.
As far as immigrants, and Americans, they are human beings. I would rather continue to spread liberty by living it and teaching it, than to "force" my will upon others. Welfare will not end overnight. Neither will immigrants coming in. And certainly not the multi-generational welfare recipients who I have a big issue with.
I do not isolate issues and problems, because as I have learned they are all pieces of one large puzzle.
Here is what I know:
1. Government is corrupt. It is not concerned about you or me, taxation or the Bill of Rights. It invades and conquers. It exists merely to represent and support the corporatists, whose lobbies are more than typically the ones who write "laws".
2. Patriot Act, TSA, NSA, DHS, etc. And boy are they raking it in on my tax dime.
3. Just before the mid-terms, an immigrant "crisis" emerged - out of nowhere. Interesting that USMCA was being promoted which forces "unionization". Think about that. Forced unionization to upset an economy combined with a wall.
4. TSA announced the domestic roadmap, which is as we speak, underway.
5. Biometric Identification already in progress (eVerify, Delta, TSA, Passports, etc).
6. Bump Stock ban. And, states are forging ahead legislating their own laws to regulate arms.
If you knew me personally, I am as conservative as you will find. I absolutely reject any form of Welfare - it must end.
But I am seeing a different picture than some of you here. Because most bases are covered which I outline above, what is really left? LAND.
Trump has utilized Eminent Domain not only in the U.S., but overseas as well. He openly admits that he supports it.
In this fight for liberty and freedom, this intellectual battle, I cannot even consider building or funding a Wall. Yes, immigrants, like many Americans in our country, take some form of welfare. But as I think about this, why in the world would I compound anti-liberty initiatives by forcing my will on innocent property/business owners when I am fighting this out of hand government from infringing upon MY rights?
As Walter Block stated, and I have always felt this way - what gives this government the sole right to control public land by way of BLM, or any other agency? We could discuss Bundy and other cases again, but those cases have already been made.
Public land, the right to homestead. Private property rights, essential to liberty.
This Wall will do nothing to stop welfare. The government has no intention whatsoever in ending any welfare handouts, on either side. The Wall will, however, take public and private property from the rightful owners.
Remember the agenda (21). This is why, imo, this "crisis" was "suddenly" created, after years of immigration decline. Who better than Magnate Trump, now a "R", to make it happen, either by force or "voluntarily". Except (even via gofundme) there is nothing voluntary about it
As far as the "border" goes, I truly believe that TPTB believe this will be an easy sell to the American people, only to set precedence for more to come. Domestic TSA blueprint is to control all state borders and will need land for that as well, at EVERY junction across this country. Highways, bi-ways, back roads and dirt roads.
Immigration and The Wall.
I cannot seem to find hard numbers. DHS has some data and projections, MIT uses words such as "could", WaPo and others speculate. But what is interesting is that for years immigration numbers have been on the DECLINE - up until the mid-term elections.
As far as immigrants, and Americans, they are human beings. I would rather continue to spread liberty by living it and teaching it, than to "force" my will upon others. Welfare will not end overnight. Neither will immigrants coming in. And certainly not the multi-generational welfare recipients who I have a big issue with.
I do not isolate issues and problems, because as I have learned they are all pieces of one large puzzle.
Here is what I know:
1. Government is corrupt. It is not concerned about you or me, taxation or the Bill of Rights. It invades and conquers. It exists merely to represent and support the corporatists, whose lobbies are more than typically the ones who write "laws".
2. Patriot Act, TSA, NSA, DHS, etc. And boy are they raking it in on my tax dime.
3. Just before the mid-terms, an immigrant "crisis" emerged - out of nowhere. Interesting that USMCA was being promoted which forces "unionization". Think about that. Forced unionization to upset an economy combined with a wall.
4. TSA announced the domestic roadmap, which is as we speak, underway.
5. Biometric Identification already in progress (eVerify, Delta, TSA, Passports, etc).
6. Bump Stock ban. And, states are forging ahead legislating their own laws to regulate arms.
If you knew me personally, I am as conservative as you will find. I absolutely reject any form of Welfare - it must end.
But I am seeing a different picture than some of you here. Because most bases are covered which I outline above, what is really left? LAND.
Trump has utilized Eminent Domain not only in the U.S., but overseas as well. He openly admits that he supports it.
In this fight for liberty and freedom, this intellectual battle, I cannot even consider building or funding a Wall. Yes, immigrants, like many Americans in our country, take some form of welfare. But as I think about this, why in the world would I compound anti-liberty initiatives by forcing my will on innocent property/business owners when I am fighting this out of hand government from infringing upon MY rights?
As Walter Block stated, and I have always felt this way - what gives this government the sole right to control public land by way of BLM, or any other agency? We could discuss Bundy and other cases again, but those cases have already been made.
Public land, the right to homestead. Private property rights, essential to liberty.
This Wall will do nothing to stop welfare. The government has no intention whatsoever in ending any welfare handouts, on either side. The Wall will, however, take public and private property from the rightful owners.
Remember the agenda (21). This is why, imo, this "crisis" was "suddenly" created, after years of immigration decline. Who better than Magnate Trump, now a "R", to make it happen, either by force or "voluntarily". Except (even via gofundme) there is nothing voluntary about it
As far as the "border" goes, I truly believe that TPTB believe this will be an easy sell to the American people, only to set precedence for more to come. Domestic TSA blueprint is to control all state borders and will need land for that as well, at EVERY junction across this country. Highways, bi-ways, back roads and dirt roads.
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