Coup - Ron Paul Music Event in Atlanta - need advice

[Revolution9]

Nice. I just joined that one. Hope to see you guys soon

We have a rally every Saturday at 3PM at Freedom Park just two blocks north of Little Five Points central.

Best
Randy

 

[beermotor]

Here's what you tell them about the abortion thing:

Centralizing the right in the Federal state is the OPPOSITE of what pro-choice folks should do. This is because, look at what's happening now: you've got a federal right that's completely capable of being 100% eviscerated, or abrogated, by the Supreme Court, and there's nothing anyone else can do about it. That is why Roe v. Wade (and all the following cases that modify it) is not a good decision. Putting rights at the top just allows someone to gain power and abuse those rights. I mean, let's be honest, that's why Giuliani is DROOLING over the presidency, right? He wants to WIELD that power, against the world, against the People.

I'm an anarchist, but I support Ron Paul because his message is a good step in the right direction. And giving him air time, and visible support, is waking up lots and lots of folks, and that is very good for us, the People, and the world. So if you're truly for "choice" in everything (not just abortion), you want to spread everything out, decentralize everything you can (except, maybe, national defense). Some states may outlaw it, sure - but you know, it is a LOT easier for We the People to change a state law, than it is to change a Federal one (in fact, we have absolutely 0% control over it now).

 

[Revolution9]

Here's what you tell them about the abortion thing:

Centralizing the right in the Federal state is the OPPOSITE of what pro-choice folks should do. This is because, look at what's happening now: you've got a federal right that's completely capable of being 100% eviscerated, or abrogated, by the Supreme Court, and there's nothing anyone else can do about it. That is why Roe v. Wade (and all the following cases that modify it) is not a good decision. Putting rights at the top just allows someone to gain power and abuse those rights. I mean, let's be honest, that's why Giuliani is DROOLING over the presidency, right? He wants to WIELD that power, against the world, against the People.

I'm an anarchist, but I support Ron Paul because his message is a good step in the right direction. And giving him air time, and visible support, is waking up lots and lots of folks, and that is very good for us, the People, and the world. So if you're truly for "choice" in everything (not just abortion), you want to spread everything out, decentralize everything you can (except, maybe, national defense). Some states may outlaw it, sure - but you know, it is a LOT easier for We the People to change a state law, than it is to change a Federal one (in fact, we have absolutely 0% control over it now).

He had them and then Branns' wife waltzed by and muttered that RP isn't pro choice. Jason gave the States right spiel and that got therough somewhat..but we have to get around the female contingent and the "resoect for a woman's right to choose contingent". The ridiculous thing is that none of them has ever had nor would ever have an abortion. They have been inculcated with the "men tell you what to do with your own body" routine. This of course makes them against anything that seems like the paradigm they believe is continued. We ae going to hit them with the cross-hypocrisy rhetorical slam dunk.. It is alright to kill children in proxy wars for Israel by having any of the other canddates in office but don't tell me what to do with my body.when RP didn't and wants to leave it to the states.

Jeesh
Randy

 

[beermotor]

He had them and then Branns' wife waltzed by and muttered that RP isn't pro choice. Jason gave the States right spiel and that got therough somewhat..but we have to get around the female contingent and the "resoect for a woman's right to choose contingent". The ridiculous thing is that none of them has ever had nor would ever have an abortion. They have been inculcated with the "men tell you what to do with your own body" routine. This of course makes them against anything that seems like the paradigm they believe is continued. We ae going to hit them with the cross-hypocrisy rhetorical slam dunk.. It is alright to kill children in proxy wars for Israel by having any of the other canddates in office but don't tell me what to do with my body.when RP didn't and wants to leave it to the states.

Jeesh
Randy

Yeah, the most important thing is war, I think. War as an ideological tool of the state must be stopped. War is only appropriate in self-defense; Hitler was in favor of offensive wars, and look where it got him. My wife is a staunch democrat, but will vote for Ron Paul in the primary, because she used to get so upset with the one-issue abortion voters who vote republican without thinking... abortion is something that touches very few people on a daily basis, while the government is out there killing folks every single day in other countries. It's a question of priorities.

Good luck with them, I hope it works out, would be sweet. I need to pick up the new record, the stuff I've watched on YouTube is great.