Rick Santorum Countering the surge

[John of Des Moines]

Is it too late for Iowans to do a "Google Santorum" sign wave?

It would motivate a lot of his soft supporters to show up and caucus for him. Gains nothing for Paul to even mention it and gives Santorum votes.

Edit:

LibertyEagle said:

Didn't he also support TARP?

I recall Paul pointing out at one of the debates that only he and Santorum did not support TARP.

 

[4114Liberty]

I just wanted to add this here; it's similar to what I wrote at Grassroots folder.

I've been working all night on the Santorum problem.

1. Santorum wants to privatize social security. Older votes care about this more than anything.
2. his primary strength is sincerity. Find an issue to attack to make him look like a quack. He did connect abortion rates to the decline in social security worker youth, supporting retirees. Not everyone would be happy with this morbid link and line of thinking.

I believe that he is weakest on social security. [note I don't care even if his position is similar in anyway to ours; we can still attack him] Most of the people that seem to be Santorum are older or at least not really young. If it's the younger votes, Romney is coming in second to us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum
santorumexposed.com/


What's happening in West Iowa? I saw that in 2008 Romney and Clinton won. Is that area more religious, socially conservative? Are we preventing Romney and Santorum in the outlining areas?

I'll get back to my tasks, and I'll update later.

 

[4114Liberty]

Also I just want to add that Santorum seems like a weirdo, kind of high-strung [not to be impolite]

Here's another tidbit from Wikipedia

"During his time at the law firm Kirkpatrick & Lockhart, he represented the World Wrestling Federation, arguing that professional wrestling should be exempt from federal anabolic steroid regulations because it was not a sport.[12] Santorum left private practice after being elected to the House in 1990."

Kind of like a pretend tough guy. I don't think he's a vet is he?
He comes off like this pushy, know-it-all, but I don't think that he actually saw any action, did he?

Find some way to make him look insincere. The other day on TV I saw someone say that they admired the sincerity of Ron Paul and Santorum, so maybe it's not even a values voter thing. Maybe on some straight talk level the guy's connecting. may a John McCain type appeal? I don't know if that's the right way to say it.

Got to make Santorum look fake; if sincerity is his rise; emptiness of vision, lack of ideas in truly troubled times will be his downfall.

There may be a lot of undecideds or soft support [for other candidate] Tuesday. Watch out for Santorum and Romney's persuaders.

Our presenters have to be strong!

BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN,
AND WE WILL WIN!

 

[klamath]

I just wanted to add this here; it's similar to what I wrote at Grassroots folder.

I've been working all night on the Santorum problem.

1. Santorum wants to privatize social security. Older votes care about this more than anything.
2. his primary strength is sincerity. Find an issue to attack to make him look like a quack. He did connect abortion rates to the decline in social security worker youth, supporting retirees. Not everyone would be happy with this morbid link and line of thinking.

I believe that he is weakest on social security. [note I don't care even if his position is similar in anyway to ours; we can still attack him] Most of the people that seem to be Santorum are older or at least not really young. If it's the younger votes, Romney is coming in second to us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum
santorumexposed.com/


What's happening in West Iowa? I saw that in 2008 Romney and Clinton won. Is that area more religious, socially conservative? Are we preventing Romney and Santorum in the outlining areas?

I'll get back to my tasks, and I'll update later.

You are making him look good to Republican voters. I haven't been paying any attention to Santorum and what you just presented gave me a better opinion of him.

 

[The New Deal Sucked]

Dragon Slaying 101 (with Links)

While the rational average American instantly gets a bad taste in their mouth every time Rick Santorum opens his... There are those Conservatives out there who suffer from the "Anybody but Obama! Syndrome" and Santorum is their latest choice because he hasn't faced the scrutiny yet. Sadly for us its great timing for his surge, because we don't have much time to expose him for who he is. Additionally I don't see Santorum being much of a threat past Iowa. If he finishes strong AND Perry/Bachmann drop out we could be dealing with a bigger problem, but right now those three are splitting a lot of the same votes. I am sure a lot of Cain supporters have also gravitated towards him because his record hasn't been exposed yet.

All these being said, here are a few points you can use to hammer Santorum with when speaking to the Jim Robinson types. Often it is valuable to not scream "RON PAUL" in their face because they have such a strong emotional (not rational) bias towards the good doctor. Point out the flaws of Santorum first and if you get somewhere with them, then maybe slide in a couple Ron Paul lines. Some people just can't be reasoned with, so don't waste your time if they simply won't budge. There are many other people out there who can be persuaded.

Hope some find this useful

1. Red-State's own Erick Erickson says:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/12/29/rick-santorum-earmarxists-and-the-pro-life-statist/

"That’s Rick Santorum. He sees government as the means to conservative ends. But in using government to get conservative ends he has expanded government and set precedents for liberals to use government in the same ways for more liberal government. Rick Santorum was complicit in making Americans more dependent on government and justified it under the rubric of compassion."

2. Voted YES on Sarbanes-Oxley (Economy is most important issue to the average voter)

Here Rick Santorum voted for it initially, but now cries for it to be repealed. Growing trend amongst these other candidates, "Well I was for it BUT NOW IM NOT"

http://reason.com/quiz/GOP2011/profile/rick-santorum

"Sen. Santorum voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley law that he now wants to repeal. He also backed steel tariffs and was a player in the GOP's corporatist K Street Project. After initial opposition to the program, he became a big AmeriCorps booster." (More on K-Street later)


3. Supported the K-Street Project

http://www.aei.org/article/politics...s-denials-on-k-street-project-dont-ring-true/

Isn't this what the Tea Party movement was all about? Fighting Crony Capitalism! The K-Street Project just reeks of it and anyone who is serious about smaller government and less corruption, can't serious support a candidate who was involved in this.

4. Supported Medicare Part D and "No Child Left Behind"

You should be able to clearly articulate why both of these programs are clearly not Conservative, if not look deeply into both. Could have a whole thread on just these two topics.

5. Support of Arlen Specter

Pro-Choice Senator who ended up switching to (D)... Isn't that what people are tired of in politicians. Being bought?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HOb0NEJ1E&feature=related

6. The last time he ran for Senate he was defeated by the largest margin of defeat ever for an incumbent Republican Senator in PA.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

While the rational average American instantly gets a bad taste in their mouth every time Rick Santorum opens his... There are those Conservatives out there who suffer from the "Anybody but Obama! Syndrome" and Santorum is their latest choice because he hasn't faced the scrutiny yet. Sadly for us its great timing for his surge, because we don't have much time to expose him for who he is. Additionally I don't see Santorum being much of a threat past Iowa. If he finishes strong AND Perry/Bachmann drop out we could be dealing with a bigger problem, but right now those three are splitting a lot of the same votes. I am sure a lot of Cain supporters have also gravitated towards him because his record hasn't been exposed yet.

All these being said, here are a few points you can use to hammer Santorum with when speaking to the Jim Robinson types. Often it is valuable to not scream "RON PAUL" in their face because they have such a strong emotional (not rational) bias towards the good doctor. Point out the flaws of Santorum first and if you get somewhere with them, then maybe slide in a couple Ron Paul lines. Some people just can't be reasoned with, so don't waste your time if they simply won't budge. There are many other people out there who can be persuaded.

Hope some find this useful

1. Red-State's own Erick Erickson says:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/12/29/rick-santorum-earmarxists-and-the-pro-life-statist/

"That’s Rick Santorum. He sees government as the means to conservative ends. But in using government to get conservative ends he has expanded government and set precedents for liberals to use government in the same ways for more liberal government. Rick Santorum was complicit in making Americans more dependent on government and justified it under the rubric of compassion."

2. Voted YES on Sarbanes-Oxley (Economy is most important issue to the average voter)

Here Rick Santorum voted for it initially, but now cries for it to be repealed. Growing trend amongst these other candidates, "Well I was for it BUT NOW IM NOT"

http://reason.com/quiz/GOP2011/profile/rick-santorum

"Sen. Santorum voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley law that he now wants to repeal. He also backed steel tariffs and was a player in the GOP's corporatist K Street Project. After initial opposition to the program, he became a big AmeriCorps booster." (More on K-Street later)


3. Supported the K-Street Project

http://www.aei.org/article/politics...s-denials-on-k-street-project-dont-ring-true/

Isn't this what the Tea Party movement was all about? Fighting Crony Capitalism! The K-Street Project just reeks of it and anyone who is serious about smaller government and less corruption, can't serious support a candidate who was involved in this.

4. Supported Medicare Part D and "No Child Left Behind"

You should be able to clearly articulate why both of these programs are clearly not Conservative, if not look deeply into both. Could have a whole thread on just these two topics.

5. Support of Arlen Specter

Pro-Choice Senator who ended up switching to (D)... Isn't that what people are tired of in politicians. Being bought?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HOb0NEJ1E&feature=related

6. The last time he ran for Senate he was defeated by the largest margin of defeat ever for an incumbent Republican Senator in PA.

Great stuff!

 

[KevinR]

It's all a lie, he'll come in 5th.

 

[The New Deal Sucked]

It's all a lie, he'll come in 5th.

Totally possible as well. Something stinks rotten about this sudden surge in "polls"

 

[realtonygoodwin]

The surge is real, but it was pretty much caused by the CNN pill that had extremely questionable methodology. If you seriously think he will end up in 5th... I don't even know what to say to that.

 

[clint4liberty]

Former Governor Mitt Romney should not be receiving 1/5 of the vote in the Iowa Caucus. We are the chances that Bachmann,
Santorum and Perry work together at the 2012 Iowa Caucus? We must continue to battle hard in New Hampshire now that it is too late to air anymore ads in Iowa.

 

[coffeewithgames]

This video was just on his Facebook page:

 

[eduardo89]

Share this page with everyone you know: www.facebook.com/NoSantorum

Add articles and videos there too

 

[Simple]

Santorum said the war of terror is a war against radical islam. Seems to me that declaring a new christian crusade would be a pretty big disqualifier. That is the radical foreign policy.

Sorry for the bad audio on this clip

 

[ONUV]

his surge was calculated by the media. they waited for the best time to prop up the worst candidate.