Corvette Forums moderator cannot STAND to hear the truth...

[PaulConventionWV]

I've been posting on forums.corvetteforum.com and one of the moderators there likes to lock my threads when they can't answer my logic regarding liberty. The latest thread was locked after only 1 day...

Seems they didn't like a simple yes/no answer I put to them that none would answer...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/pol...ersy/3022544-how-many-of-you-republicans.html

Of course I know that the forum is "private property" and they can do whatever they like there, but I am just pointing out how they "just can't handle the truth"

Here's what I wrote to the moderator "cor08vette":

You love to lock my threads when no one can respond to my logic...

So I put your neo-cons on the spot by showing their hyprocracy and your response is to "lock" my threads. Pretty heavy handed of you. What are you afraid of? You afraid that showing that NONE of the neo-cons dare answer a simple question shows how weak you guys are? Your positions are ANTI-constitution, ANTI-liberty, and Amoral. And you hate it when you see how empty your positions are...

Thanks a lot ...

Not sure why you had to add the highlighted part. Most people know around here, and then again, why would you care anyway if someone here thought that, somehow, you were violating their property rights or thought they didn't have a right to it? It seems you are a little insecure about your beliefs to me.

Also not sure why you felt the need to post that whole story about nothing. Very strange.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Sometime MEN need to hear hard truth in a hard way. Staying cordial with wolves will sometimes get you eaten. If he was on a pastel wearing metro-sexual corvette club for she-men forum maybe that tactic wouldn't be so good. But for men that still have testosterone between their legs his approach may not be that bad.

Are corvette guys anything like Trucker guys?

Note to the wise: My sampling group happens to be truckers TMike

There's your problem. Please don't act like you have anything to offer here. Your opinion is based on nothing and gives us no real insight. Being an asshole and justifying it by saying you are a "non-aggressionist" is just pure bullshit. What's more, it is self-evidently bullshit.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Ha, when I run into ignorant people who like to Paul bash, I just lie to them.. Ultimately we are trying to win an election here. So if some asshole doesn't understand Paul's position on something... Just lie to him, get that dumbass to the poles. That's all that matters. I'm don't have the time to go around and philosophically repair every uninformed jack ass out there.

Wow. I can't believe I am reading this. So much for a principled understanding of Paul's philosophy. The goal isn't JUST to get people to the polls. If we get everyone to vote for Paul on false pretenses and then they still don't understand what liberty is all about, we really haven't accomplished much. Lying never won an election anyway. In order to effect real, lasting change that lasts beyond Paul's four years in office (presumably, when they find out in his years that he is doing stuff they don't agree with because you lied about him) you have to get people to understand liberty. Only this understanding can promote it because it is THE PEOPLE that are supposed to effect that change throughout the country in all levels of government, not just the presidency. Now please, stop being an idiot and stop lying to people. That is just the opposite of liberty.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I'm very thick skinned (and stubborn) so I'm used to the BS. You should have seen the stuff I had to put up with on the freetalklive forum back in the day when people used to frequent it. I had a thread about "Christian Anarchy" that went to something like 10k posts. Some people started posting "Jesus porn" in my thread to discourage me, but I just looked at that tactic as throwing down the gauntlet. I told them that porn is not so offensive and I would show them offensive. I posted the most horrific images from rotten.com in the threads of those offenders. They finally cried "uncle" and no one ever posted offensive material in my thread after that...

I am a strong believer in fighting fire with fire.

Oh, right. That's great for the ultimate non-aggressionist, the anarchist. Why is it always those who believe the most strongly in non-aggression who are the most aggressive assholes when it comes to arguments? Your philosophy of "fight fire with fire" is one of escalating aggression, not using logical responses to persuade people. It's pure hypocrisy.

 

[Justinfrom1776]

Wow. I can't believe I am reading this. So much for a principled understanding of Paul's philosophy. The goal isn't JUST to get people to the polls. If we get everyone to vote for Paul on false pretenses and then they still don't understand what liberty is all about, we really haven't accomplished much. Lying never won an election anyway. In order to effect real, lasting change that lasts beyond Paul's four years in office (presumably, when they find out in his years that he is doing stuff they don't agree with because you lied about him) you have to get people to understand liberty. Only this understanding can promote it because it is THE PEOPLE that are supposed to effect that change throughout the country in all levels of government, not just the presidency. Now please, stop being an idiot and stop lying to people. That is just the opposite of liberty.

The ends justify the means.. You can only do so much with some people. Now stop being such a pussy.

 

[Justinfrom1776]

Wow. I can't believe I am reading this. So much for a principled understanding of Paul's philosophy. The goal isn't JUST to get people to the polls. If we get everyone to vote for Paul on false pretenses and then they still don't understand what liberty is all about, we really haven't accomplished much. Lying never won an election anyway. In order to effect real, lasting change that lasts beyond Paul's four years in office (presumably, when they find out in his years that he is doing stuff they don't agree with because you lied about him) you have to get people to understand liberty. Only this understanding can promote it because it is THE PEOPLE that are supposed to effect that change throughout the country in all levels of government, not just the presidency. Now please, stop being an idiot and stop lying to people. That is just the opposite of liberty.

You haven't been paying attention.

 

[unknown]

F*cking dickheads. Did you get banned or suspended?

Did you read that sh*t?

Bunch of neocon Israeli firsters...

Feel kinda ashamed for liking the Z after reading all that...

 

[HaryTemp]

I just don't uderstand why you are trolling mesage boards that have nothing to do with politics. Let's just put it this way...it is highly unlikely that you have changed even ONE person's mind in any of these boards that you troll. While it is far more likely that you have pissed people off to the point where they become anti-Paul

In other words, it is just a terrible idea. You are not only wasting your time, but you are wasting your time and hurting Ron Paul.

Think about what would happen here if someone came out of nowhere and posted nothing but comments about Corvettes. They would likely be banned if they didn't stop.

Or if someone chose to use this board to support their favorite Dancing with the Stars "celebrity." If they did it enough, it might get some people here to vote for OTHER DWTS celebrities just to make the poster's favorite lose.

 

[unknown]

I just don't uderstand why you are trolling mesage boards that have nothing to do with politics. Let's just put it this way...it is highly unlikely that you have changed even ONE person's mind in any of these boards that you troll. While it is far more likely that you have pissed people off to the point where they become anti-Paul

In other words, it is just a terrible idea. You are not only wasting your time, but you are wasting your time and hurting Ron Paul.

Its actually not "trolling" at all.

Many if not all car forums have "politics/controversy/off-topic" sections. This specific one is called politics.

If you look at some of the threads, many threads are about politics and is a great reflection of the typical GOP establishment mind set.

I think its very important that Ron Paul supporters discuss the true conservative position with the typical GOP voter.

 

[HaryTemp]

Fair enough if there is a politics section. However, doing it in a confrontational way makes my statement still stand. It will not convert even one single person and may cause some to automatically turn against RP.

The exchange on the corvette forum HURT Ron Paul, and wasted time that could have been spent helping him. So it is a double loss.

 

[QuickZ06]

ChristianAnarchist I am glad to see you still fighting the fight over there!

FYI, most of the guys on CF in the political section are batshiz crazy and have no sense of logic, ask me how I know

 

[Wooden Indian]

I go through a similar issue with the Tampa Bay Bucs MB. We have a politics section overrun with neocons... but us few RP peepes have done a hell of a job at converting quite a few. Since I've known most of these people for over a decade and have some clout, it helps with the regulars... not so much with the noobs. Par for the course.

I even use some talking points and info presented on this forum, and carry it over there on occasion.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

ChristianAnarchist I am glad to see you still fighting the fight over there!

FYI, most of the guys on CF in the political section are batshiz crazy and have no sense of logic, ask me how I know

Yes, I actually prefer to post in forums where I can try to change a few minds and hearts. We win this battle one heart at a time...

 

[whippoorwill]

I read every post in the link. That Mod did you a favor. He listed you question and all your calls to answer it. He showed them all that they were avoiding the answer.

 

[Tudo]

I'm looking to buy a 67 corvette and visited that forum. You make all supporters look bad in that forum. I don't appreciate it.

 

[unknown]

Fair enough if there is a politics section. However, doing it in a confrontational way makes my statement still stand. It will not convert even one single person and may cause some to automatically turn against RP.

The exchange on the corvette forum HURT Ron Paul, and wasted time that could have been spent helping him. So it is a double loss.

Well, there are many who hate RP to begin with so youre not really seeing unbiased opinions. There is a lot of hate towards Ron Paul from that forum. They are diehard israeli firsters, neocons and GOP establishment gatekeepers which is why you'll see the condescending comments. But I will tell you this, there are a few people who have been converted not through arguing (those guys are looking for an argument to begin with) but by simply posting the facts and RP's videos.

 

[unknown]

ChristianAnarchist I am glad to see you still fighting the fight over there!

FYI, most of the guys on CF in the political section are batshiz crazy and have no sense of logic, ask me how I know

Well they are biased. They are israeli firsters, neocons and GOP gatekeepers.

Funniest thing is, they claim to be small government conservatives and often love Ron Paul's positions so long as someone is Ron Pauling and its not coming from Ron Paul himself.

 

[unknown]

I'm looking to buy a 67 corvette and visited that forum. You make all supporters look bad in that forum. I don't appreciate it.

Please dont take this attitude.

At the end of the day, that site is looking to generate money. Once you remind them of this fact, the mods back down because they dont want to be responsible for turning away business by their anti-Ron Paul bias. They are charged with being impartial because again, it is a business. If you spend $ on Corvettes and accessories, let it be known that you wont be silenced simply because you support Ron Paul nor should you be.

That we should get as much respect as anyone other Corvette enthusiast.

Make a point of supporting Ron Paul.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

hard to put a fishing pole in a corvette

 

[unknown]

hard to put a fishing pole in a corvette

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