Cops Tase Barely Conscious Boy With Broken Back 19 Times For Non-Compliance

[revolutionary8]

If we are really talking to a "Cop that supports Ron Paul", I shudder at thinking about the mind set of those that don't.

They saw it working for Jack Bauer.

Probably true for the trainees, but as far as the higher ups training them to torture, I tend to believe that they are trying to breed sociopaths. What is even more frightening, is that these psychos are coming back from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan (etc) and becoming cops. I met a dude the other day (big dude) who was tackled and tazed 3 times for questioning why he was being harrassed by a cop. The taze earned him a hole in his skull (falling on to pavement head first) and a life time of pain. The cop who tazed him was readying himself for his THIRD deployment to Iraq.
God help us all.

 

[orafi]

Ok good one, next time a fugitive is being apprehended by police, he can just say he has a back injury. Then the police can't do anything to him at all right.

Keep dreaming.

So you're saying the fugitive will play dead (so to speak) and play it off?

 

[CopThatSupportsRonPaul]

So you're saying the fugitive will play dead (so to speak) and play it off?

Well yes, you are suggesting that police shouldn't be able to do anything to criminals who have a back injury and are threatening to kill police... so why wouldn't more criminals lie and say they have a back injury?

You think criminals are going to tell the truth, put their hands out and say "sorry officers, cuff me."

LOL. You guys watch too much TV.

 

[Join The Paul Side]

First amendment suddenly gives you the right to tell people you are going to kill them, and not expect anything to happen to you??

He is a 16 year old kid badly hurt, unarmed, and unable to defend himself against two overaggressive cops. But surely he was capable of killing them....... with his mind.......

Mouthing off to a pig gives them the right to torture somebody? Give me a fucking break.

Was this young man in the interrogation room? No, he was being apprehended and taken into custody. The taser was NOT being used for interrogation.

May not have been used for interrogation, but it sure was used for torture, now wasn't it?

 

[malkusm]

Ok good one, next time a fugitive is being apprehended by police, he can just say he has a back injury. Then the police can't do anything to him at all right.

Keep dreaming.

I doubt most fugitives have obviously, by eyewitness accounts and officers' best judgments, fallen 30 feet from a bridge and remained there for several minutes.

Also I missed how he was a "fugitive" at all.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Also I missed how he was a "fugitive" at all.

He tried to defy the law

of gravity.

 

[malkusm]

He tried to defy the law

of gravity.

(rimshot)

 

[Join The Paul Side]

he tried to defy the law

of gravity.

l m a o !!!!!!!!!!!!! :d

 

[CopThatSupportsRonPaul]

Tasers are the best thing since sliced bread. Out of all the "taser death" cases, none were ruled that the taser caused the death, only that the taser was a contributing factor. Of all the cases, the "victim" had a pre-existing condition of some sort, whether it's them being loaded up with enough drugs to be fatal, or some kind of weird medical condition that 99.999999% of people don't have.


You know what? Can the Taser cause someone to die? Yeah, but so can drinking coffee, eating yogurt, taking a bath, climbing a ladder, driving a car, etc. Should we ban all those as well?


The people calling for the end of tasers is no different than the crowd of people who want to ban guns.

As part of training, I had to get hit with a taser AND take pepper spray directly to the eyes. I'll take the taser any day. Especially over getting shot with a gun.

 

[dude58677]

Tazed 19 times? First of all, that's flat out impossible. Tasers are only good for 2 shocks at most. Were these officers carrying 9 tasers on their belt or something? ROFL. I work for a PD with a huge budget, and they can't even give us all tasers, so I doubt these two officers in the OZARK PD were carrying 9 tasers with them. If the article can't even get that right, I highly doubt the accuracy of the rest of the story.


Second, how were the officers supposed to know the "boy" had a broken back? If you are trying to take someone into custody, and they are writhing around resisting you, while at the same time saying they are going to kill you, what exactly are you supposed to do, give them milk and cookies?

The boy deserves a darwin award and should be fortunate he was only tazed and not shot.

You are one of the long line of assholes who pose as RP supporters in this forum. People like you come in here and claim that you are a RP supporter and then say you support the IRS, Iraq War, drug war, military draft, claim that we shouldn't camapign a certain way or hold someone accountable because of our reputation, etc. Well we are not buying this crap. So piss off troll.

 

[CopThatSupportsRonPaul]

You are one of the long line of assholes who pose as RP supporters in this forum. People like you come in here and claim that you are a RP supporter and then say you support the IRS, Iraq War, drug war, military draft, claim that we shouldn't camapign a certain way or hold someone accountable because of our reputation, etc. Well we are not buying this crap. So piss off troll.

Uhh ok?

I don't support the IRS, I don't support the Iraq war, I do support the drug war, I don't support the military draft, and I most certainly do not think a campaign should only be run a certain way, but thanks for generalizing and lumping all your eggs into one basket.

 

[dude58677]

Uhh ok?

I don't support the IRS, I don't support the Iraq war, I do support the drug war, I don't support the military draft, and I most certainly do not think a campaign should only be run a certain way, but thanks for generalizing and lumping all your eggs into one basket.

Cops cant keep drugs out of prisons and they violate the rights of the people, esp with RICO. No real RP supporter would support the drug war.

 

[tmosley]

When a cop gets tased for training, they get it once, for maybe a couple of seconds. Try getting tased nineteen times for 10+ seconds each time, and come back and tell me it isn't torture.

Tasers were supposed to be used just before guns. If a "suspect" (what was he suspected of? I don't even see a crime here) is laying on the ground with a broken back, would you pull a gun on him? Would you shoot him? I pray to God that you wouldn't. If you wouldn't shoot them with a bullet, you shouldn't be allowed to shoot them with a taser.

The main problem with these less that lethal techniques is that because they have (an often false) reputation for being safe, they tend to get used more and more often, and for lesser and lesser reasons, until we have a brutal police state. Being a police man isn't supposed to be easy. If it is, then you have a police state, and you ought to quit your job if you really believe in Ron Paul's ideology.

 

[CopThatSupportsRonPaul]

Cops cant keep drugs out of prisons and they violate the rights of the people, esp with RICO. No real RP supporter would support the drug war.

I see, because I disagree on one issue with Ron Paul, I must not be a supporter. My bad.

 

[ChickenHawk]

I don't know enough about this story to say exactly what really happened but I can bet that the officers didn't know the kid had a broken back. Also, is there video of this somewhere, I'd be intersted in seeing it.

I tend to be suspicious of police brutality stories because the media ALWAYS makes them out to be worse than they are. They paint innocent cops that had to use force as violent criminals and cops that did do something wrong as the second coming of Hitler (oops, did I Godwin this thread?).

 

[dude58677]

I see, because I disagree on one issue with Ron Paul, I must not be a supporter. My bad.

Why do you think a guy should be tasered when he is injured? What kind of person are you?

 

[ChickenHawk]

Why do you think a guy should be tasered when he is injured? What kind of person are you?

There have been people who have killed cops after being fatally injured.

 

[CopThatSupportsRonPaul]

When a cop gets tased for training, they get it once, for maybe a couple of seconds.

Obviously you are a professional on this subject.

Try getting tased nineteen times for 10+ seconds each time, and come back and tell me it isn't torture.

If that happened, then it could be construed as torture, but it didn't happen. As I said, if the article is lying about this, what else is it lying about? Tasers only have enough juice in them to be used once. There are some expensive models that not many departments use that have quick-reload batteries, but I highly doubt the officers were carrying 19 batteries on them.

The article is simply the most B.S. thing I have ever read. You're telling me the officers sat there, firing a tazer once, reloading, firing it again, reloading, firing it again, reloading, over and over for a grand total of 19 times? That's even if they had reloadable tasers and all those batteries on them.



Article = lame and BS.

Tasers were supposed to be used just before guns. If a "suspect" (what was he suspected of?

They are. Would you prefer this boy have gotten shot instead? If a "boy" (I use that term lightly because 16 is old enough to overpower you) is squirming around, not complying with my requests, and saying he's going to kill me, I have to assume he has a gun or weapon on him and is about to use it on me.

Sorry, he can ride the lightning, I'm not risking my life and yes I am going home to my family at the end of the day.

As far as what he's a suspect of, that doesn't matter, as soon as he said he was going to kill the officers, he committed a crime.

I don't even see a crime here) is laying on the ground with a broken back, would you pull a gun on him? Would you shoot him? I pray to God that you wouldn't.

1) How would I know he has a broken back? I'm not a doctor and I don't carry x-ray machines with me.

2) If he has a broken back, he should have said so and been crying for help, not saying that he was going to kill me.

3) The kid was a f'ing retard and deserved it. It's just common sense not to tell cops you are going to kill them if you have a broken back and need medical attention.

If you wouldn't shoot them with a bullet, you shouldn't be allowed to shoot them with a taser.

And why is that? Have you ever used a taser, or had one used on you?

Just because the media makes tasers out to be some horrible death beam invented by Dr. Evil doesn't mean it's true.

 

[purplechoe]

Uhh ok?

I don't support the IRS, I don't support the Iraq war, I do support the drug war, I don't support the military draft, and I most certainly do not think a campaign should only be run a certain way, but thanks for generalizing and lumping all your eggs into one basket.

That's very weird because I know and talk to a lot of cops around the Chicago area and pretty much most of them agree that the drugs being illegal is kind of pointless. Somebody else pointed out that even in prison, which as a "total police state", drugs make their way in. The whole issue would be better dealt with by treating the drug addiction as a medical problem, not a criminal one. The only time it should be criminal is when a crack head stole something or injured someone else.

Marijuana being illegal is totally stupid. Hemp is an amazing plant which could be put to a great use and can be grown without THC (or very tiny traces of it). The best and strongest ropes are made out of Hemp. You can make paper out of it and it's a great substitute to cotton to make clothing because it creates a long lasting material. The reason it became illegal had to do with DuPont and a few other individuals.

(found a link for you)
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_culture11.shtml

I know someone who smoked it till he got busted by the cops two years ago. The reason he smoked it is because he had a motorcycle accident about 20 years ago in which he injured his right arm. I don't really ask him about it but it he has no use of it and is always inside his shirt. Marijuana was the best thing for him to keep the pain away. I know the guy very well. Had he been without the injury, he would not be a "pot" head. Maybe he would enjoy it once in a while but not to the the extant of smoking it all the time to keep his pain away. I'm not sure if you're familiar with Kirk Cobain, the former singer from Nirvana who committed suicide in the mid 90's. The reason he did drugs is because his stomach gave him problems and he was in pain all the time.

Have you read Ron Paul's latest book The Revolution: A Manifesto?

http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Ma...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217387372&sr=8-1

He talks about the issue quite a bit in it.

PS. Don't tase me bro!

 

[powerofreason]

I don't care what anyone else says, cops are out of control these days. In my town, there is one cop that I would consider to be a nice guy. Tough, but nice. The rest? Arrogant sociopaths who aren't there to help, just bust people's balls and act tough and important. Police have waaay too big of a budget in my town. Maybe its just CT cops though, I've never lived anywhere else. Doubt it though