Cop Shoots Dog [VIDEO]

[noneedtoaggress]

More video preceding the incident.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

Apparently Reason has an article on it:

Get Cuffed for Filming Police; Your Dog Gets Upset; Cop Kills Your Dog
Brian Doherty|Jul. 1, 2013 7:10 pm

Here's the way it is, America: annoy a cop, even doing something perfectly legal, and he might cuff you. And if your dog sees it and gets upset, he might kill your dog.

Latest example in this video uploaded to YouTube yesterday from Hawthorne, California of a man filming police on the street, when they then approach and cuff him.

Warning: if watching a dog die would upset you, don't watch. It looks to me like the cop was approaching the dog before the fatal moment more than the dog was attacking the cop:

And CBS Local News:

HAWTHORNE (CBSLA.com) — A video posted online apparently shows Hawthorne police officers fatally shooting the dog of a man filming a nearby barricade situation, an attorney said Monday.

The undated video posted June 30 on YouTube shows a man driving up to an apparent police barricade at 137th and Jefferson and then stopping to use his camera to capture images of the scene.

Attorney Michael Gulden said his client Leon Rosby was watching and taking video of the Hawthorne SWAT team when police claimed Rosby was obstructing officers during the barricade.

Rosby is seen in video footage walking with the dog – which appeared to be a Rottweiler – near several patrol cars to capture the scene on his phone.


After an exchange with nearby officers, Rosby is heard saying the words, “civil rights violation” before returning the dog to his vehicle.

As officers begin to proceed toward Rosby, he also begins walking in the direction of the officers and is then taken into custody without any further exchange.

While Rosby is handcuffed, the dog is seen escaping from the vehicle through an open rear window and then approaching the officers while barking.

When one officer motions toward the animal, the dog is seen jumping up and toward the officer, at which point four shots were fired, according to Gulden.

A second video apparently shows Rosby stopped at the intersection and then driving slowly past the scene prior to parking his vehicle.

Gulden said he plans to file a lawsuit against the Hawthorne Police Department.

There was no immediate response on the incident from police.

 

[ladyjade3]

That's awful. The dog was being a dog.

 

[Bruehound]

That's awful. The dog was being a dog.

and the cops were being cops.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

This was justified. The officer even tried to grab the dog and it lunged at him in aggressive manor...

edit:

Based on a news article later in the thread it appears the police were abusing their power in arresting this man and killing his dog was a totally unnecessary result of that abuse of power.

 

[green73]

That's awful. The dog was being a dog.

OT

 

[green73]

I don't think I can watch the videos.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

This was justified. The officer even tried to grab the dog and it lunged at him in aggressive manor...

Yeah the officer approached it with his arm out trying to make contact with it, what did he think was going to happen.

This was completely unnecessary and could easily have been averted. I don't know what they're arresting the guy for, but from what I gathered so far, it appears to be filming them and making commentary and they're trying to get him on some sort of "obstruction" charge. Look at how co-operative the guy is and how they handle him when putting him in cuffs.

This could have easily been avoided in a multitude of ways if the police were in any way competent. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't trying to teach this mundane a lesson about messing with them.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

From Photography is Not A Crime:

In one of the most shocking videos I’ve seen since launching this blog six years, ago, Hawthorne police shot and killed a dog while arresting the dog’s owner for video recording them from a half-block away on a public sidewalk.

Several cops were standing in front of a house halfway down the block, apparently to make an arrest over the weekend, while a man walking his dog was video recording them from the corner.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Yeah the officer approached it with his arm out trying to make contact with it, what did he think was going to happen.

This was completely unnecessary and could easily have been averted. I don't know what they're arresting the guy for, but from what I gathered so far, it appears to be filming them and making commentary and they're trying to get him on some sort of "obstruction" charge. Look at how co-operative the guy is and how they handle him when putting him in cuffs.

This could have easily been avoided in a multitude of ways if the police were in any way competent. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't trying to teach this mundane a lesson about messing with them.

Well, if that's the case it could of been avoided by not arresting this man for such a bogus reason.

That aside, it doesn't change the fact that the dog appeared to try and bite the cop. He was reaching for its collar to grab it. This one is justified in my opinion.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

Well, if that's the case it could of been avoided by not arresting this man for such a bogus reason.

That aside, it doesn't change the fact that the dog appeared to try and bite the cop. He was reaching for its collar to grab it looking for an opportunity to use his firearm. This one is justified in my opinion.

FIFY

Because an aggressive stranger grabbing at the dog's collar is somehow going to make it immediately submissive to this new master. It was just sniffing the ground before it realized the cop was trying to get the jump on it.

Watch the part where the dog gets out, it wasn't even being very aggressive. Mostly it was checking out the scene nearby and the it only got problematic when the cop who shot it would try to touch it.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

FIFY

Because an aggressive stranger grabbing at the dog's collar is somehow going to make it immediately submissive to this new master.

Because every time a cop kills a dog its the cops fault?

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Well, if that's the case it could of been avoided by not arresting this man for such a bogus reason.

That aside, it doesn't change the fact that the dog appeared to try and bite the cop. He was reaching for its collar to grab it. This one is justified in my opinion.

 

[silverhandorder]

Why not let the owner restrain the animal? Fucking pathetic for arresting the guy in the first place.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Nice gif.

But seriously, can you tell me how I am wrong in thinking this is justified? Is a cop killing a dog ever justified -- is it ever self defense?

Here's a map I made of dogs killed by cops and I specifically avoided cases like this that are justified:

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=...d=207846740317443814606.0004cfafec39c0992f16f

 

[noneedtoaggress]

Because every time a cop kills a dog its the cops fault?

How does this follow what I said, or where did I state that was what I thought?

I've been talking about this incident the entire time and there's a video where you can see what I'm referring to, and it's clear that this could have been avoided at multiple points if the cops weren't FAR more aggressive than the dog had been the entire time.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

Nice gif.

But seriously, can you tell me how I am wrong in thinking this is justified?

Because it was easily avoidable. Similar to the way it's possible to prevent "being forced to" kill an animal that's minding it's own business until you decided to kick it in the ribs.

Is a cop killing a dog ever justified -- is it ever self defense?

Yes.

 

[chudrockz]

Not gonna watch the video. Said it before but I'll say it again:

If ANYONE shoots my dog in self defense (imo) I'll grieve and move on. Anyone kills my dog for ANYTHING else, I resign from the Libertarian Party, take a piss on the nonagression principle, bid farewell to everyone here, and make headlines.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

How does this follow what I said, or where did I state that was what I thought?

I've been talking about this incident the entire time and there's a video where you can see what I'm referring to, and it's clear that this could have been avoided at multiple points if the cops weren't FAR more aggressive than the dog had been the entire time.

I watched the video a few times now. The cop's body language does not give me the impression he was trigger happy. Like I said before, he even risked being mauled by reaching his hand out and the dog became aggressive and lunged at his hand.

Because it was easily avoidable. Similar to the way it's avoidable to prevent "being forced to" kill an animal that's minding it's own business until you decided to kick it in the ribs to provoke it.

It was avoidable if the cops never arrested the man in the first place. Agreed.

 

[SeanTX]

This kind of reminds me of the case in Omaha last year where the guy was out walking his dog and the cops beat him up and killed his dog (which wasn't even barking or anything, it was just caught in the middle when the badged street thugs attacked his master).

As with that case, nothing will happen here either, outside of the usual high fives at the station for the occifer and some internet outrage that will be forgotten in 2-3 days. The only thing that would even get their attention is some real outrage in the streets, but that doesn't even happen when a human is wrongfully killed by the police.

On their facebook page they have lots of pics of therapy dogs and such , showing what dog lovers they are : https://www.facebook.com/hawthornepolice . They aren't getting much love in the comments there, I'm surprised they haven't taken the page down yet.