Contact Focus on the Family, Christian Political Support Needed!

[traviskicks]

The Christian Right is not happy with any of the lead Republican candidates and this gives us a golden opportunity. If the Christian Right joins us Ron Paul will win the Republican nomination.

Let's make it happen, Ron Paul is a Christian man, married 50 years, of great character and moral principles, pro life, and anti McCain Feingold, content to let individuals answer to God not government for their actions. Liberty, after all, is synonymous with morality.

So, let's contact Focus on the Family, headed by James Dobson, arguably the most influencial member of the Christian Right and fill out the following contact sheet:

http://family.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/family.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=14190

 

[Danny Molina]

The problem with the christian right is they want everything regulated by the government for morality's sake. They also want a president that will make laws that reflect their beliefs. This doesn't mean we shouln't try to convert them to Paulism it just means that they'd probably be one of the hardest groups to attract. (next to neocons)

 

[micahnelson]

World Magazine was very friendly towards him.

 

[traviskicks]

The problem with the christian right is they want everything regulated by the government for morality's sake.

I'm not so sure, I think the old Christian right is changing, they place a lot of emphasis on character and federalism provides a strong argument for letting local people live as they wish. There are a lot of constitutionalists and libertarian minded folks amongst them.

I think they are looking for a moral candidate and can find one in Ron Paul. It's worth 5 seconds to fire them off an email! We need to try to make this alliance happen, IMO.

 

[rdenner]

Here is my comment to them

Doubt it makes it to anyone, worth a try.

To whom it may concern;

This is a very serious request and I hope that it finds somebody on the other end that is willing to listen.

I am encouraged to hear that many in the Focus on the Family organization are disheartened by the choices they see on the Republican side of the aisle (we won't even talk about the Democratic side). It gives me hope to know that a large Christian organization has finally awoke to the problems that this country faces and is willing to make a bold statement, even if it means loosing political clout within the system.

I am a Catholic, but more importantly I believe in God and Jesus Christ. I have spent years studying the problems that plague this country and like Alice in Wonderland I sometime regret the day I stepped into the looking glass. I have been perusing that ONE thing or combination of things that has taken this country in such an awful direction.

I, like many of you, have blamed the Democrats, the Liberals, the Socialist and even more recently the Republicans and the Neo-Conservatives. And what I have learned from many years and many mistakes is that we are looking for answers in the wrong place. We keep looking for a way to shape government in a way that will support the millions of Christians in this country that are constantly under attack. And what I have learned is that we are spending all this effort in the wrong place.

The idea of the moral majority and bringing religion into politics was without a doubt a bad idea. It has done nothing but water down the ideas of religion to better fit into a political spectrum. We have subordinated the sanctity and individuality of the church to the state, NOT the other way around.

Liberals loathe the idea of church and state, but they don't seem to realize that it's worked to their benefit. The church is so watered down now, because of tax exempt status and the governmental rules that come with that status.

It's time that the major churches of this country realize that the last 30 years or more of direction have been wrong. The churches of this country should be fighting to REMOVE government from religion, NOT the other way around. This requires a different way of thinking. It requires us to stop asking government to do things for us and to follow the path laid down by Jesus Christ and his churches, and DO FOR OUR SELVES.

Ron Paul is a man of God, of that I have no doubt. His ideology should not be looked upon as a foe to your ends, but a blessing. His idea will free the churches of this country from meddling government, not the other way around. Stop taking the tax exempt status and STAND UP and say the GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO THAT MONEY TO BEGIN WITH!! Its money that I and all my fellow parishioners have freely given to you, to help ease suffering around the country and around the world.

Please give Ron Paul at least some benefit of the doubt and listen to his views.

His views are as close to those espoused by the Bible as anyone I have every heard. I even had to change a few of my views, because they were so hypocritical and against the will of God. Chief among them was my views on capital punishment.

Please consider my request.

Robert Denner NW Ohio

 

[wgadget]

Ron Paul is also VERY pro-homeschooling, which is generally a Christian movement.

Don't forget to mention that.

 

[Phenom24]

Have written Dr. Dobson twice already...

I don't know what's going on out there in Colorado.

 

[Danny Molina]

I'll do some investigating in the matter. I'm going to check out the Ron Paul sentiment on christian forums.

 

[reduen]

I think that a great way to do this is to ask Mike Huckabee to come to his senses and ask Dr.Paul for the V.P. position in his campaign. (I am serious here.)

I am planning on writing a sincere and heart felt message to Mr. Huckabee concerning this topic. (From one Christian to Another.) I believe Huckabee to be a very sincere man and true to his faith. I believe that he already sees where the Iraq war is not the True Christian way but has not come to the realization that we must repent of our support for Bush and his foreign policy thus far.

I know that his heart is right where taxes are concerned because he truly supports the Fair Tax initiative but he does not realize that Dr. Paul has an even better philosophy concerning this topic.

I know many will laugh at this post but I believe it to be a great way to bring many Christians on board with Dr. Paul and his message.

 

[constituent]

Do you not yet realize the extent to which the "christian right"
has betrayed Christians?

Do you not realize the great extent to which the "christian" right
has acted as a tool, encouraging people to blindly follow (nearly
worship, see justice sunday) the elected (some in the religious right
would have at point said, divinely annointed) regime that
has destroyed our country?

Think it was on accident?

Really? Do you?

Kill Iraqis, Kill Afghans, but save terry schiavo???

give me a break.

how about the council for national policy?

i believe dobson is actually a member...

you know, the group that just met
secretly w/ cheney?

 

[reduen]

Do you not yet realize the extent to which the "christian right"
has betrayed Christians?

Do you not realize the great extent to which the "christian" right
has acted as a tool, encouraging people to blindly follow (nearly
worship, see justice sunday) the elected (some in the religious right
would have at point said, divinely annointed) regime that
has destroyed our country?

Think it was on accident?

Really? Do you?

Kill Iraqis, Kill Afghans, but save terry schiavo???

give me a break.

how about the council for national policy?

i believe dobson is actually a member...

you know, the group that just met
secretly w/ cheney?

Let me take a giant shot here in saying that you probably also promote the movie Zeitgeist and do not believe that Jesus was ever really alive..

 

[leipo]

Let me take a giant shot here in saying that you probably also promote the movie Zeitgeist and do not believe that Jesus was ever really alive..

He asked you a question though.

 

[speciallyblend]

Focus on the family is a joke here in colorado.
In Colorado focus on the family was the only group opposed to legalize marijuana(other then the lying feds).( they outright lied against amendment 44 and encouraged both parties to lie in our election bluebook) They tried to imply in bluebook that if you voted yes you could give kids marijuana without penalty. They left out in the book that it is a class 4 felony..Focus on the family is a bunch of hypocrite liars.

DO YOU REALLY THINK focus on the Family is going to support Ron Paul ending the drug war. Focus on the family has an agenda and its not RON PAULS AGENDA

FOCUS ON THE FAMILY HAD THERE WAY THEY WOULD run the goverment themselves and outlaw anyone who thinks different ,but i wouldnt announce them around me ,They are hypocrites Focus on the Family ,i dont trust a word out of there mouth. Maybe we should outlaw them since they seem to think they are god. Focus on the family is a group that just might make me vote libertarian before i vote republican .I would distance myself away from these big goverment lovers.They want to use the goverment to force their agenda down your throats,they try to do it here in colorado,i doubt they will change their lowsy story at the federal level.You might gain some votes getting focus on the family,but you might lose my vote and many others.focus on the family is a double edged sword.They do not agree with individual rights,stay away from these guys,but if you must,just let me know because i might need to unregister my party

Focus on the family believes homosexuals are a choice, not born that way.They are clueless .Homosexuality isnt a choice,if it was, then everyone is bi-sexual and they choose to be straight,its complete nonsense from these guys.They do not believe in individual rights.. Oo by the way ,im straight ,but they say its a choice,what dumbasses,if its a choice then we can argue everyone is bi-sexual.

 

[reduen]

He asked you a question though.

This is incorrect. He asked me many questions by the looks of all thoses?

I believe that constituent can speak for him/herself but let me go ahead and answer all of thes questions in short. (Probably many others also...)

I do not believe that any real Christian has done any of what has been mentioned thus far.

 

[Brock Landers]

I'll do some investigating in the matter. I'm going to check out the Ron Paul sentiment on christian forums.

I like this idea...having more of a presence on the Christian forums seems worthwhile.

I also agree that the figureheads would be the hardest to convert over to Ron Paul, because they like having the power they have, and probably get more power and attention whenever they demand that government do such-and-such to protect the moral health of our society, etc.

I mean, getting Dobson on-board would be like convincing Jessie Jackson to support Ron Paul. Even though Ron would be the best thing that ever happened to blacks, Jessie would lose HIS power, and be out of a job. Thus, Jessie's gonna keep focusing on playing to people's emotions.

I say take the message straight to the people themselves.

 

[leipo]

This is incorrect. He asked me many questions by the looks of all thoses?

I believe that constituent can speak for him/herself but let me go ahead and answer all of thes questions in short. (Probably many others also...)

I do not believe that any real Christian has done any of what has been mentioned thus far.

I was referring to the first question.
Of course he can speak for himself. I was just interested in an aswer aswell.

 

[speciallyblend]

Dobson needs to be deported

 

[RP4ME]

Focus on the family is a joke here in colorado.
In Colorado focus on the family was the only group opposed to legalize marijuana(other then the lying feds).( they outright lied against amendment 44 and encouraged both parties to lie in our election bluebook) They tried to imply in bluebook that if you voted yes you could give kids marijuana without penalty. They left out in the book that it is a class 4 felony..Focus on the family is a bunch of hypocrite liars.

DO YOU REALLY THINK focus on the Family is going to support Ron Paul ending the drug war. Focus on the family has an agenda and its not RON PAULS AGENDA

FOCUS ON THE FAMILY HAD THERE WAY THEY WOULD run the goverment themselves and outlaw anyone who thinks different ,but i wouldnt announce them around me ,They are hypocrites Focus on the Family ,i dont trust a word out of there mouth. Maybe we should outlaw them since they seem to think they are god. Focus on the family is a group that just might make me vote libertarian before i vote republican .I would distance myself away from these big goverment lovers.They want to use the goverment to force their agenda down your throats,they try to do it here in colorado,i doubt they will change their lowsy story at the federal level.You might gain some votes getting focus on the family,but you might lose my vote and many others.focus on the family is a double edged sword.They do not agree with individual rights,stay away from these guys,but if you must,just let me know because i might need to unregister my party

Focus on the family believes homosexuals are a choice, not born that way.They are clueless .Homosexuality isnt a choice,if it was, then everyone is bi-sexual and they choose to be straight,its complete nonsense from these guys.They do not believe in individual rights.. Oo by the way ,im straight ,but they say its a choice,what dumbasses,if its a choice then we can argue everyone is bi-sexual.

Tehyw ill not get everything taht they want in anyone. if tehy go independent we will get Hillary. Which si worse than backing a candidate liek Paul. Who could be doing them many favors ....teh issues they will have is Drugs and A fed ban o gay marriage
But Roe V wade can be overturned and taht will make them happy! Tehn they can rally their trrops in each state.

We need to reach out to them ...its best coming form Christains who get their thinking and how its flawed......not poepl who are dubious about Christainity in general

 

[traviskicks]

Robert Denner NW Ohio

Thanks for taking the time to write that great reply. I think we need to recognize that Conservative Christians are, like any other group, individuals first, and that various groups and various leaders espouse vastly different opinions. I think on this forum we should be forward looking and instead of looking to criticise past actions, we need to focus on the positive future role they can play in preserving liberty. The message is ripe, however, convincing and lobbying is needed.

Conservative Christians are disaffected with mainstream politics, often ignored and counted out by the MSM; however, they are a powerful voting and campaigning force and quite influencial. I think there exists the possibility of a natural alliance between us and them (if we can really separate the two) - as many common interests converge.

The problem is convincing both camps of the necessity of said alliance.

An endorsement of Paul by any of these Christian leaders would rock the political establisment to its roots.

 

[eloquensanity]

Have written Dr. Dobson twice already...

I don't know what's going on out there in Colorado.

Hannity just said on his radio show that Dr Dobson will be on his show tomorrow.
So maybe he is a lost cause although Hannity quoted him as saying that they might vote for a lesser known candidate.

Don't know what that means but just heard the tail end of what he was saying.
I just turned on WBAP to see if there were any discussions on Dr Paul. I don't usually listen to Hannity but might tomorrow just to get an idea of what Dr Dobson says.